CoVid19 Part XIV - 8,089 in ROI (288 deaths) 1,589 in NI (92 deaths) (10/04) Read OP

OscarMIlde · 09-04-2020 08:12PM

fr336 wrote: »

Re supermarkets it's all ancedotal but have you guys seen how many London bus drivers have died from this? Think it was around 10 at last check. I'm wondering if even being at the front of the bus as they are but in such a compact environment greatly increases their exposure compared to supermarket staff? But again it's just what we're getting to hear - maybe there are many cases from supermarket workers it just doesn't sound as "newsworthy" as bus drivers? We are still in relatively early days with this whole thing - maybe it will turn out that supermarkets presented a very low risk for some reason but the journey on the bus there will turn out to be extremely risky? Personally I'll be avoiding them all as much as possible for the foreseeable.

It's possible. If they were driving full buses all day, I'd imagine they'd get exposed to a lot of aerosols from passengers. It's also quite possible that they may have caught it outside of work. It seems rampant in London, and I don't think you can automatically presume that all workers infected in a given industry necessarily caught it while working in said industry. It's also possible it was transmitted between workers in a canteen or depot rather than directly from passengers.

gabeeg · 09-04-2020 08:14PM

Gael23 wrote: »

Is it conceivably possible to get the R below 1?

yeah absolutely

it's just an average number - if the average person infects less than one other people, then it goes below 1

stephenjmcd · 09-04-2020 08:14PM

glasso wrote: »

Bono's Gaff and Enya's Gaff in the first photo incidentally

The council like many others closed all the car parks so people aren't flooding the area.

fr336 · 09-04-2020 08:16PM

PixelTrawler wrote: »

Don’t feel terrible. I’ve twins still in a pram and I’d never let any stranger touch them. Surprised the father didn’t say anything or step in to block her. I’d have gone ape.

The irony of this is it's more likely the kid would give it to her and she'd end up in bother rather than the other way round.

walshb · 09-04-2020 08:16PM

France’s death toll almost 1400 today....

What Username Guidelines · 09-04-2020 08:18PM

Gael23 wrote: »

Is it conceivably possible to get the R below 1?

Yeah, if 10 people catch it and 9 are already being very careful with hand hygiene, etc, maybe live alone, then in theory they may not infect anyone else. If the last lad tho infects 5, then R0 is 0.5 (10 people infecting 5). Very unlikely in that scenario, but possible in theory. Even to just have it at 0.95 will result in decreasing cases. It’s why everyone should act like they have it, in case they do.

Wibbs · 09-04-2020 08:18PM

Gael23 wrote: »

Is it conceivably possible to get the R below 1?

IIRC a few countries reckon they have; Taiwan. Hong Kong, Czech Rep. All went full on though compared to us. Closed borders, had border checks even then, quarantine, tracking, more testing, lockdowns, pub/cafe/shop closures, distancing, masks in public, handwashing. I suppose the more each move lowers the risk, the lower your transmission rate goes.

09-04-2020 08:18PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

The council like many others closed all the car parks so people aren't flooding the area.

yes I understand (car parks closed off in many coastal points) but it's also coincidentally near that "red zone"

macmahon · 09-04-2020 08:21PM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

You need approval to get a test, can't just show up, the less people you test the less people can be confirmed as having the virus and so the better your approach looks...possibly.

Its not rocket science!...I feel sick Doc!...Doc sorts out whether ya should be tested!...I guess we have some pretty well clued up Doctors here in Ireland...hence the empty plandemic testing centres! Well done to them all!

fr336 · 09-04-2020 08:21PM

Remember the days of this thread where most people could see what was going to happen even if we hoped it never would? Would it have been far less damaging socially and economically to have closed the borders when things were getting out of hand in Italy? Just think - now the travel industry would be on its knees but on the plus side the rest of the economy would be business as usual and no lockdowns.

Strumms · 09-04-2020 08:22PM

Madisyn Modern Spaniel wrote: »

I felt guilty this evening. A lady in her 60s came right up beside me in the queue to enter Tesco (even in the pre-era of social restrictions, she was in my personal space). I then asked her for some space. As I queued for the till, she was ahead of me. She noticed a (very cute) baby in a pram (child no more than 5 months). She said “you are such a cute child” and tickled the child under its chin. The dad looked down awkwardly at the floor. I told her that social distancing is not just some theoretical concept, that people throughout this country are getting sick. As I was walking to my car, her and her daughter were giving me dirty looks. I feel terrible now

You shouldn’t feel terrible, it’s not as if the media isn’t harping on 24/7 about it. A kid aswell jeez, you cannot give a hall pass to anyone, elderly or otherwise. How the father didn’t loose the head.

rosiem · 09-04-2020 08:22PM

glasso wrote: »

yes I understand (car parks closed off in many coastal points) but it's also coincidentally near that "red zone"

What red zone you are spoofing trying to be relevant you have no idea what that picture means all you are going to do is worry people in those areas unnecessarily for your own importance

rm212 · 09-04-2020 08:23PM

Anyone else think Denmark and Austria are a bit mad to be planning to exit lockdown in the next few days? Looking at their numbers today and last few days... they don’t look anywhere near safe yet. I imagine lifting their measures will cause a huge surge in the next couple of weeks, given the amount of new and active cases currently happening with lockdown measures

09-04-2020 08:25PM

rosiem wrote: »

What red zone you are spoofing trying to be relevant you have no idea what that picture means all you are going to do is worry people in those areas unnecessarily for your own importance

I wouldn't have put you down as a Dalkey resident.

Strumms · 09-04-2020 08:26PM

fr336 wrote: »

Remember the days of this thread where most people could see what was going to happen even if we hoped it never would? Would it have been far less damaging socially and economically to have closed the borders when things were getting out of hand in Italy? Just think - now the travel industry would be on its knees but on the plus side the rest of the economy would be business as usual and no lockdowns.

You’d have publicans, restauranteurs, hoteliers etc..crying oceans down the phone to poor Joe Duffy.... they’d rather full bank accounts and full morgues over empty hospitals, a fit and healthy population....

tails_naf · 09-04-2020 08:26PM

Genuine question, and sorry if its been asked before, i have not been keeping up with the threads so closely.

I've been locked down since the day the schools were closed. I've left the house to shop only 2 times and the other 2 times had it delivered. Wiped food packages down with soapy water, etc. Yet right now, in the last 3 days I have developed a cough and runny nose. Even if this is not coronavirus, how the hell did I catch anything being so isolated ?

rosiem · 09-04-2020 08:26PM

glasso wrote: »

I wouldn't have put you down as a Dalkey resident.

Sorry where do I claim to be ?

wakka12 · 09-04-2020 08:27PM

rm212 wrote: »

Anyone else think Denmark and Austria are a bit mad to be planning to exit lockdown in the next few days? Looking at their numbers today and last few days... they don’t look anywhere near safe yet. I imagine lifting their measures will cause a huge surge in the next couple of weeks, given the amount of new and active cases currently happening with lockdown measures

By looking at worldometers it does certainly look like they are still reporting a lot of new cases, but maybe we dont know the whole story, maybe it is mostly healthcare workers or people in nurshing homes or other quarantined environments that are making up most of the new cases and so they are not a risk of creating continued community spread? Who knows, Im sure they are not just going to relax restrictions willy nilly after shutting down their ecnomies for a month

macmahon · 09-04-2020 08:28PM

walshb wrote: »

France’s death toll almost 1400 today....

What are the death stats on any average day? I hope you don't feel so glum...much love during these plandemic times!

OscarMIlde · 09-04-2020 08:29PM

rm212 wrote: »

Anyone else think Denmark and Austria are a bit mad to be planning to exit lockdown in the next few days? Looking at their numbers today and last few days... they don’t look anywhere near safe yet. I imagine lifting their measures will cause a huge surge in the next couple of weeks, given the amount of new and active cases currently happening with lockdown measures

I think so. Honestly it needs to be pretty much eradicated before lockdowns can be relaxed in my opinion, or you just reverse what you worked so hard to achieve. And even then you would need to have robust quarantines for people entering the country and suspected cases to maintain the hard achieved drop in infections.

Hobgoblin11 · 09-04-2020 08:29PM

rm212 wrote: »

Anyone else think Denmark and Austria are a bit mad to be planning to exit lockdown in the next few days? Looking at their numbers today and last few days... they don’t look anywhere near safe yet. I imagine lifting their measures will cause a huge surge in the next couple of weeks, given the amount of new and active cases currently happening with lockdown measures

The Great Danes and Austrians had better keep their borders shut or their neighbours will be complaining

rm212 · 09-04-2020 08:29PM

wakka12 wrote: »

By looking at worldometers it does certainly look like they are still reporting a lot of new cases, but maybe we dont know the whole story, maybe it is mostly healthcare workers or people in nurshing homes or other quarantined environments that are making up most of the new cases and so they are not a risk of creating continued community spread? Who knows, Im sure they are not just going to relax restrictions willy nilly after shutting down their ecnomies for a month

Yeah I hope it’s a case of not knowing the full story, because their worldmeters numbers don’t look great. Denmark are currently in their highest range of new cases over the last few days; their peak so far.

jesus_thats_gre · 09-04-2020 08:31PM

rm212 wrote: »

Anyone else think Denmark and Austria are a bit mad to be planning to exit lockdown in the next few days? Looking at their numbers today and last few days... they don’t look anywhere near safe yet. I imagine lifting their measures will cause a huge surge in the next couple of weeks, given the amount of new and active cases currently happening with lockdown measures

They will reverse course very quickly I suspect.

bekker · 09-04-2020 08:32PM

JPCN1 · 09-04-2020 08:33PM

RobertKK wrote: »

Are FG that stuck that only Simon Harris can be their health minister?

You might want to read a wee bit about Simon.

Frank Bullitt · 09-04-2020 08:34PM

bekker wrote: »

The name of that image file is very worrying.

owlbethere · 09-04-2020 08:36PM

fr336 wrote: »

Remember the days of this thread where most people could see what was going to happen even if we hoped it never would? Would it have been far less damaging socially and economically to have closed the borders when things were getting out of hand in Italy? Just think - now the travel industry would be on its knees but on the plus side the rest of the economy would be business as usual and no lockdowns.

This went through my mind. Its sad and ironic. The government put open borders ahead of the health of the nation. Now we have over 700000 people unemployed, an economy on its knees, probably very little flying in and out for holiday and pleasure reasons.

We would be doing better now if the borders were shut.

Vivienne23 · 09-04-2020 08:36PM

All restrictions will have to be lifted at some point , even Ireland ,

The basic need for a lockdown is so our hospitals can cope , once we do this and numbers stagnate in our hospitals , restrictions will be lifted , with increased testing capacity we try to catch those cases quick , if we can’t do that we lockdown again until the hospitals can cope again ,rinse and repeat until we get a vaccine , this is it for the foreseeable!

igCorcaigh · 09-04-2020 08:37PM

tails_naf wrote: »

Genuine question, and sorry if its been asked before, i have not been keeping up with the threads so closely.

I've been locked down since the day the schools were closed. I've left the house to shop only 2 times and the other 2 times had it delivered. Wiped food packages down with soapy water, etc. Yet right now, in the last 3 days I have developed a cough and runny nose. Even if this is not coronavirus, how the hell did I catch anything being so isolated ?

It can take up to two weeks for symptoms to appear. Although I don't think a runny nose is very common with Covid. 4% of cases I think.

Do you live alone?

Jinglejangle69 · 09-04-2020 08:39PM

owlbethere wrote: »

This went through my mind. Its sad and ironic. The government put open borders ahead of the health of the nation. Now we have over 700000 people unemployed, an economy on its knees, probably very little flying in and out for holiday and pleasure reasons.

We would be doing better now if the borders were shut.

Right so no cargo planes coming in with equipment and essentials the country needs to live?

Or Irish people trying to get home form countries who won't help them or health workers?

Cop on.

Oh and what's your solution to the NI border?

You seem to have all the answers.

CoVid19 Part XIV - 8,089 in ROI (288 deaths) 1,589 in NI (92 deaths) (10/04) Read OP

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