CoVid19 Part XIV - 8,089 in ROI (288 deaths) 1,589 in NI (92 deaths) (10/04) Read OP

AtomicHorror · 09-04-2020 05:38PM

bekker wrote: »

A rather unsettling report on behaviour of COVID-19 which may cast a new light on the Chinese reports of reinfections.

About 51 patients classed as having been cured in South Korea have tested positive again, the CDC said in a briefing on Monday. Rather than being infected again, the virus may have been reactivated in these people, given they tested positive again shortly after being released from quarantine, said Jeong Eun-kyeong, director-general of the Korean CDC.

“While we are putting more weight on reactivation as the possible cause, we are conducting a comprehensive study on this,” Jeong said. “There have been many cases when a patient during treatment will test negative one day and positive another.”

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-09/coronavirus-may-reactivate-in-cured-patients-korean-cdc-says

Much more likely to be testing errors, or if not, a very rare effect.

kilkenny31 · 09-04-2020 05:40PM

Celia Sweet Snowmobile wrote: »

How the f can people still be getting it at this point? We've been locked away for 2 weeks.

They are just unwell. Who says they have the virus.

tom1ie · 09-04-2020 05:40PM

is_that_so wrote: »

I think they'll unwind this 2km thing at the end of April and most of it by the end of June.

fair enough, you are entitled to your opinion and just for the record i really hope your version is correct, but to be honest i just don't see it.
Even if you are correct, if we unwind restrictions before a vaccine is available, we will be back to square 1. The virus wont have gone away.

Just Saying · 09-04-2020 05:41PM

How on earth if you have received 17000 results and 1000 new cases can you not include them as you receive them.RTE reported online on Sunday that the head of the HSE said the figures from Germany had been included since the previous Friday.

Totally messes up any figures that I had been basing my projections on.

I have been totally misled by the information and have been wrong in my posts.I apologise if I misled anyone.

SeaBreezes · 09-04-2020 05:41PM

seamus wrote: »

You're assuming they've been selfish and irresponsible.

There hav been loads of people whining online about cars coming off of ferries. Turns out they're all irish residents coming home...
The traffic count on the N11 showed no appreciable increase in traffic at all yesterday.

So yes, the hysteria about people going down to holiday homes is overblown. There's no evidence that people are doing it in any real numbers.

I live near a west cork holiday destination village with many holiday homes.
The homes are empty most of the year, but have been filling up this week.

I can't vouch for the rest of the country just what I see here..

Turtwig · 09-04-2020 05:41PM

AtomicHorror wrote: »

Much more likely to be testing errors, or if not, a very rare effect.

I agree but given it's a novel virus latency and future reactivation similar to chicken pox/shingles can't be ruled out either.

stephenjmcd · 09-04-2020 05:42PM

tom1ie wrote: »

fair enough, you are entitled to your opinion and just for the record i really hope your version is correct, but to be honest i just don't see it.
Even if you are correct, if we unwind restrictions before a vaccine is available, we will be back to square 1. The virus wont have gone away.

Thats the thing they know it wont go away and Harris said today it wont be stamped out here. A point will come where the virus will co exist but to an extent that the hospitals can manage

deisedevil · 09-04-2020 05:42PM

jackboy wrote: »

That seems to be an issue in most countries. Some countries are over estimating the death rates and others are underestimating. I’m not sure if any countries are giving accurate figures rather than estimates.

I'm just wondering. Testing is so inconsistent and the numbers of deaths are being over and under reported. The figures from different countries can't even be properly compared due to differences in how deaths are being counted. Is there any value in just looking at the increase in deaths, let's say in a month, to what would normally occur in a region. I'd imagine that not all of the increase would be due to Covid as there are extra deaths occuring in some regions due to the knock on effect of the virus, but is this a simpler indicator of the effects of the virus on an area.

is_that_so · 09-04-2020 05:44PM

AtomicHorror wrote: »

Much more likely to be testing errors, or if not, a very rare effect.

There is at least one paper from China on this. This Snopes link comments on the question.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/covid-19-reinfection/

ZX7R · 09-04-2020 05:44PM

Just Saying wrote: »

How on earth if you have received 17000 results and 1000 new cases can you not include them as you receive them.RTE reported online on Sunday that the head of the HSE said the figures from Germany had been included since the previous Friday.

Totally messes up any figures that I had been basing my projections on.

I have been totally misled by the information and have been wrong in my posts.I apologise if I misled anyone.

It's not your fault,but howling and the hse definitely are loosing all credibility

ACitizenErased · 09-04-2020 05:44PM

28 more deaths RIP to all.

Mental Mickey · 09-04-2020 05:44PM

What time is the briefing on at?

ACitizenErased · 09-04-2020 05:45PM

500 new cases.

Ace2007 · 09-04-2020 05:45PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Thats the thing they know it wont go away and Harris said today it wont be stamped out here. A point will come where the virus will co exist but to an extent that the hospitals can manage

Yes and the key is to give the hospitals as much chance to get the infrastructure in place to do this, if we reduce the restrictions too early, they will be overrun, and wont' get a chance to "breath".

tom1ie · 09-04-2020 05:45PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Thats the thing they know it wont go away and Harris said today it wont be stamped out here. A point will come where the virus will co exist but to an extent that the hospitals can manage

the hospitals are just about managing at the moment with everyone supposedly locked away (even though we are not really) what do you think will happen when restrictions are lifted.
Even if we got c19 out of Ireland then lifted the restrictions, do you not think it will be imported back in on a flight from somewhere?
its here to stay until a vaccine is made unfortunately.

Oscar Bravo · 09-04-2020 05:45PM

28 more deaths. 22 in the east. 2 in north west. 2 in south.2 in west. Median age 84.

Wombatman · 09-04-2020 05:46PM

Tony on Virgin One now.

ACitizenErased · 09-04-2020 05:46PM

8.2% growth today

Poorside · 09-04-2020 05:46PM

51,000 waiting to be tested, well that's just super.

is_that_so · 09-04-2020 05:47PM

About 8.3% increase, so no change in restrictions.

stephenjmcd · 09-04-2020 05:47PM

tom1ie wrote: »

the hospitals are just about managing at the moment with everyone supposedly locked away (even though we are not really) what do you think will happen when restrictions are lifted.
Even if we got c19 out of Ireland then lifted the restrictions, do you not think it will be imported back in on a flight from somewhere?
its here to stay until a vaccine is made unfortunately.

Nobody says it isnt here to stay but restrictions will be lifted. They've said that

Tandey · 09-04-2020 05:47PM

Serious jump today.

RIP to the 28 who have passed away.

Gael23 · 09-04-2020 05:47PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

500 new cases.

This can be attributed to the tests being sent back from Germany

Arghus · 09-04-2020 05:47PM

Fck. I thought maybe the numbers might hover around the 3oo and something mark. 500 is bad news.

bennyl10 · 09-04-2020 05:48PM

Tandey wrote: »

Serious jump today. RIP to the 25 who have passed away.

Not at all
8% increase

ACitizenErased · 09-04-2020 05:48PM

153 in ICU.

stephenjmcd · 09-04-2020 05:48PM

153 in ICU

tom1ie · 09-04-2020 05:48PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Nobody says it isnt here to stay but restrictions will be lifted. They've said that

but how can you lift restrictions if restrictions are the only thing keeping a lid on it?

Poorside · 09-04-2020 05:48PM

Arghus wrote: »

Fck. I thought maybe the numbers might hover around the 3oo and something mark. 500 is bad news.

I think Leo will be at the podium soon enough.

stephenjmcd · 09-04-2020 05:49PM

Arghus wrote: »

Fck. I thought maybe the numbers might hover around the 3oo and something mark. 500 is bad news.

No its not. It's a single digit increase still

CoVid19 Part XIV - 8,089 in ROI (288 deaths) 1,589 in NI (92 deaths) (10/04) Read OP

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