CoVid19 Part XIV - 8,089 in ROI (288 deaths) 1,589 in NI (92 deaths) (10/04) Read OP

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Boris we all know has a need to talk, never shy of a few words, I find it hard to believe if he is '' up, awake, cheerful'' that he needs someone else to convey those words for him. He has twitter and loves to use it when needed. The fact he has made no tweets is concerning.
When at home he didn't need someone else to say anything for him, he said it himself on twitter.

Borris is fine and will be out of ICU in a few days. As someone has said he probably isn't allowed a phone in ICU. He was put in there because he was the prime minister and got special care.

Doctors room ghost wrote: »

The same goes for the broiler chicken we eat every day.
A genetic freak designed by man to produce economically cheap protein.welfare doesn’t come into it.
They’re crammed 40000 into a shed for mass feeding in the quickest time possible to reach slaughter weight.
artificial heat artificial light and pumped with concentrate feed and antibiotics.
The same chicken or pig wouldn’t survive outdoors now in winter.we have the nature bred out of them.
Pure toxic farming methods and the end result is people eating that poor quality dangerous products

Yes. Also horrendous conditions. But wait - China are to blame as they treat animals cruelly !

People really need to look at how awful the animals on are own shores are treated before casting judgement. I saw footage of an undercover pig farm and didn’t sleep right after it. Deeply disturbing. These type of situations are a disaster waiting to happen. How it hasn’t happened yet is beyond me.

I’m not expecting people to completely give up meat but they should source it from ethical farmers that do exist

Reckless Abandonment wrote: »

Regardless of testing their hospitals should be crazy. And from reading all their local news I'm just not seeing it. Very strange.

That could just mean they're not admitting people. Thailand has a notoriously crappy human rights record.

This Saturday will be 2 weeks since the current controls came in to play, will be interesting what percentage of new cases there are which were transmitted outside those which can be explained as sourced within the healthcare industry in nursing homes, hospitals etc where staff and patients would be at high risk of exposure.

thebaz wrote: »

agree - I was expecting absolute horror to hit the developing world, around now, and this has not happened -
Ther could be a climate factor that has been downplayed, as you suggest Thailand should be as bad if not worse that America right now -
California and New York were hit at same time, and New York is way worse than Californioa in particular the urban cities -
Climate may well be a factor.

Washington state, which had the first outbreak, seems to be doing OK also. They had built a field hospital in expectation of the hospitals being overwhelmed but it is now being dismantled to be used elsewhere if needed. There are no reports of hospitals being overwhelmed at all in the US yet, that I've seen. In fact, anecdotal accounts suggest they are emptier than usual.

thebaz wrote: »

it could also mean, hopefully , that the virus is not proving as deadly as first thought, and perhaps hot weather slows transmission rates

Low rates of obesity (with related type 2 diabetes)? Low rates of heart disease and hypertension? I don’t know, but could that be a factor in lower deaths and lower rates of severe cases (hence less chance for hospitals to be overwhelmed)?

weldoninhio wrote: »

If that is the lab that could process 1500 per day and they are only able to work at 1/3 capacity (500 a day) where is Harris etc getting their 4500+ numbers from? More spin and waffle.

Imagine if it had been up to you to plan it all. Cracking jokes and calling it overhyped and rolling off to Cheltenham and the pub until the very last moment. We'd be screwed if the likes of you had their way.

If you think we're all going to forget that, you have another thing coming.

Government will have to be accountable for anything they've messed up, no question. But the state of you grandstanding on every mistake. Sit down ffs.

tobefrank321 wrote:

A bit of foresight would have helped.

Foresight to predict a worldwide shortage? Who has that

polesheep wrote:

I take your point, but sometimes it is better to do something rather than nothing. If a test allows us to send people back into society in the knowledge that even 'some' of them have antibodies then we can a degree of confidence that we are at least looking at a reduced risk, because we will soon be sending people back into society one way or the other.

It isn't better to do something rather than nothing if that something isn't reliable.

No result is better than a wrong result.

New Home wrote: »

Under-testing and under-reporting, perhaps?

Probably, unfortunately. Hot and dry climates might be a problem for the virus, but warm and humid? I don't know, wouldn't bet on when the other explanations are more likely.