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Is it just me or have SF vanished?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,043 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    smurgen wrote: »
    Idioctic logic.If the opinion of anyone outside the crisis response is irrelevant why do they have press conferences?

    Ballso is here to shut down discussion that might involve criticism of how the crisis is handled.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,043 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    I was looking there and it is hard to find...what are the stats on testing currently does anyone know?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 465 ✭✭Ballso


    smurgen wrote: »
    Idioctic logic.If the opinion of anyone outside the crisis response is irrelevant why do they have press conferences?

    Is this a serious question?

    The press conferences are to inform people what is happening.

    None of you are part of managing and responding to the crisis. You all get that right? There are actual qualified people actively managing the situation.

    Jesus lads you are fairly dense. Bunch of Walter Mittys.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,043 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Ballso wrote: »
    Is this a serious question?

    The press conferences are to inform people what is happening.

    None of you are part of managing and responding to the crisis. You all get that right? There are actual qualified people actively managing the situation.

    Jesus lads you are fairly dense. Bunch of Walter Mittys.

    Calm down. If my opinion is not relevant to you...just ignore it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    The Shinners really aren’t capturing the national mood on this. Shinnerbots like The Risen over on the Journal are taking a hammering. Very much backed into a corner, and getting extremely tetchy as a result.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    https://twitter.com/sinnfeinireland/status/1247903498902966273

    That’s great Louise , tell them what they already know

    How is Louise O'Reilly going to get a 'full picture' from some Twitter responses?

    This makes no sense at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 465 ✭✭Ballso


    Calm down. If my opinion is not relevant to you...just ignore it.

    It's not relevant to anyone. That's the point. You spend all day every day on here spouting irrelevant nonsense from the sidelines, second guessing people who actually matter and looking to score your little victories which count for nothing anywhere except in your own head.

    Sinn Fein in a nutshell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    Phoebas wrote: »
    How is Louise O'Reilly going to get a 'full picture' from some Twitter responses?

    This makes no sense at all.

    She's like the orange oaf in the oval office. He loves twitter as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    The Shinners really aren’t capturing the national mood on this. Shinnerbots like The Risen over on the Journal are taking a hammering. Very much backed into a corner, and getting extremely tetchy as a result.

    Yep. The election result seems a long time ago now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 436 ✭✭Sultan_of_Ping


    Brother-in-law thought I'd get a laugh from this given who I work for.....

    Another SF TD demonstrating a level of cluelessness that's almost enviable.

    Deputy Tully is urging the government to liaise with the many medical device companies with facilities here in Ireland to produce domestic kits to increase testing capacity here.

    Medical device production is not a generic activity - production is not interchangeable.

    And the company she references - Randox - don't do medical devices, afaik.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 465 ✭✭Ballso


    Brother-in-law thought I'd get a laugh from this given who I work for.....

    Another SF TD demonstrating a level of cluelessness that's almost enviable.




    Medical device production is not a generic activity - production is not interchangeable.

    And the company she references - Randox - don't do medical devices, afaik.

    This seems to pervade the whole organisation. They think their stupid unqualified opinions are just as valid as industry professionals, senior public servants, senior doctors etc.

    It's insane. It's irritating enough at the best of times, but sure we live in a democracy and we have to listen to even the dullards. But holy **** does a crisis like this bring the whole thing into stark relief.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,043 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Ballso wrote: »
    It's not relevant to anyone. That's the point. You spend all day every day on here spouting irrelevant nonsense from the sidelines, second guessing people who actually matter and looking to score your little victories which count for nothing anywhere except in your own head.

    Sinn Fein in a nutshell.

    Seems to engage quite a few. Including yourself. ;)

    As a test...ignore what I say. That would be nice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    Brother-in-law thought I'd get a laugh from this given who I work for.....

    Another SF TD demonstrating a level of cluelessness that's almost enviable.




    Medical device production is not a generic activity - production is not interchangeable.

    And the company she references - Randox - don't do medical devices, afaik.

    Randox do medical diagnostics


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 436 ✭✭Sultan_of_Ping


    Ballso wrote: »
    This seems to pervade the whole organisation. They think their stupid unqualified opinions are just as valid as industry professionals, senior public servants, senior doctors etc.

    It's insane. It's irritating enough at the best of times, but sure we live in a democracy and we have to listen to even the dullards. But holy **** does a crisis like this bring the whole thing into stark relief.

    No clue whatsoever.

    It's not like any line isn't already producing vital devices and products.....what would SF tell someone suffering a critical cardiac event - "Sorry, no stents available because the people who make them are learning how to make testing kits"

    Or, how about.....

    "Would you mind awfully delaying starting chemo, while the people who make your infusion pump learn how to make Covid testing kits?"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    Seems to engage quite a few. Including yourself. ;)

    As a test...ignore what I say. That would be nice.

    Jaysis Francie, you'd be down to 3 viewers in this thread then
    In this era of self isolation, do you think that's a good idea :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 436 ✭✭Sultan_of_Ping


    Randox do medical diagnostics

    Yeah, diagnostics so covid testing is right up their street.......

    Abott have thousands employed here, but a good chunk of those are in nutrition - how do you convert a baby formula production line to reagent production?

    Or how might Boston Scientific convert from pacemaker and defibrillator production to making testing kits?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,043 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Mortelaro wrote: »
    Jaysis Francie, you'd be down to 3 viewers in this thread then
    In this era of self isolation, do you think that's a good idea :D

    You guys have been trying to shut down discussion on several threads...it is not working and won't work. Sorry for your troubles.


  • Posts: 6,246 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    No clue whatsoever.

    It's not like any line isn't already producing vital devices and products.....what would SF tell someone suffering a critical cardiac event - "Sorry, no stents available because the people who make them are learning how to make testing kits"

    Or, how about.....

    "Would you mind awfully delaying starting chemo, while the people who make your infusion pump learn how to make Covid testing kits?"

    I have relatives,who are having their chemo delayed over this virus,know others who are having radiotherapy for prostate cancer delayed over this virus



    Im not trash,so wouldnt use cancer victims to further political points


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    Yeah, diagnostics so covid testing is right up their street.......

    Abott have thousands employed here, but a good chunk of those are in nutrition - how do you convert a baby formula production line to reagent production?

    Or how might Boston Scientific convert from pacemaker and defibrillator production to making testing kits?

    Oh oh oh. Wasn't the Spin Unit telling us that a global lack of reagents was the reason our testing was down? Lads looking like yer gonna have to have an emergency meeting tonight.

    https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1247874606981152772?s=19


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 465 ✭✭Ballso


    No clue whatsoever.

    It's not like any line isn't already producing vital devices and products.....what would SF tell someone suffering a critical cardiac event - "Sorry, no stents available because the people who make them are learning how to make testing kits"

    Or, how about.....

    "Would you mind awfully delaying starting chemo, while the people who make your infusion pump learn how to make Covid testing kits?"

    Must be difficult to conceptualise complex problems when your professional experience is working in a shop. I guess they feel they need to be in control and projecting here helps them. It's sad really.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,226 ✭✭✭christy c


    I was looking there and it is hard to find...what are the stats on testing currently does anyone know?

    It was on the main Covid 19 thread but can't recall where. Easier get answers to this type of thing there as this and the FG thread is mainly about point scoring.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    smurgen wrote: »
    Oh oh oh. Wasn't the Spin Unit telling us that a global lack of reagents was the reason our testing was down? Lads looking like yer gonna have to have an emergency meeting tonight.

    You must understand that when they say that Ireland is the second largest exporter of reagents, this doesn't mean that the Irish state is exporting reagents.
    These are private companies with contracts to supply reagents abroad so we don't have any particular claim on them ... unless you'd like to start appropriating private property.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    You guys have been trying to shut down discussion on several threads...it is not working and won't work. Sorry for your troubles.

    L0l

    Btw to answer your question earlier, we're 5th on a list of 15 European countries that report testing numbers according to today's dept of health news conference


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 436 ✭✭Sultan_of_Ping


    Ballso wrote: »
    Must be difficult to conceptualise complex problems when your professional experience is working in a shop. I guess they feel they need to be in control and projecting here helps them. It's sad really.

    I'd suggest they'd take a tour around a plant or two, but if we were as immune to Covid-19 as SF are to facts and information we'd be laughing :D

    I can't imagine they'd not let the realities of the situation get in the way of a simplistic soundbite or the pursuit of a cheap headline.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,374 ✭✭✭aido79


    smurgen wrote: »
    Oh oh oh. Wasn't the Spin Unit telling us that a global lack of reagents was the reason our testing was down? Lads looking like yer gonna have to have an emergency meeting tonight.

    https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1247874606981152772?s=19

    Did you even read that article?

    This is from the article:

    "It said the reagents were used to diagnose other illnesses as tests for Covid-19 were only developed this year. But it said it was "unclear whether or not these products could be used to test for Covid-19'. "

    There is more than one type of reagent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,043 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Mortelaro wrote: »
    L0l

    Btw to answer your question earlier, we're 5th on a list of 10 European countries that report testing numbers according to today's dept of health news conference

    I was looking for 'stats' plural...tests done and results given. hard to find the second figure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    aido79 wrote: »
    Did you even read that article?

    This is from the article:

    "It said the reagents were used to diagnose other illnesses as tests for Covid-19 were only developed this year. But it said it was "unclear whether or not these products could be used to test for Covid-19'. "

    There is more than one type of reagent.

    "The report also noted that Ireland is the fourth largest exporter of medical devices that can be used to treat Covid-19. These include ventilators"

    Are you willing to bet that in 17bn worth of sales and with Ireland at the cutting edge of this type of manufacturing that it's not being made here?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    Phoebas wrote: »
    You must understand that when they say that Ireland is the second largest exporter of reagents, this doesn't mean that the Irish state is exporting reagents.
    These are private companies with contracts to supply reagents abroad so we don't have any particular claim on them ... unless you'd like to start appropriating private property.

    Other countries are doing exactly this. If we'd a taoiseach that's not part timing it on the phones maybe we as host nations to these companies could negotiate a deal?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    smurgen wrote: »
    Other countries are doing exactly this. If we'd a taoiseach that's not part timing it on the phones maybe we as host nations to these companies could negotiate a deal?

    So what is it you want - the government to appropriate private property or the government to negotiate a deal? It can't be both.

    It sounds to me that the course you want the government to take is any course that they are not now taking.
    A classic Sinn Fein stance.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,043 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    smurgen wrote: »
    Other countries are doing exactly this. If we'd a taoiseach that's not part timing it on the phones maybe we as host nations to these companies could negotiate a deal?

    The answer to any suggestions seems to be 'ah we can't'.

    There was a suggestion put forward by Leo on St. Patrick's Day that 'we are all in this together'...obviously not when it come to businesses operating here. Such faux outrage if anyone makes a suggestion/asks a question.


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