Is it just me or have SF vanished?

smurgen wrote: »

Idioctic logic.If the opinion of anyone outside the crisis response is irrelevant why do they have press conferences?

Ballso is here to shut down discussion that might involve criticism of how the crisis is handled.

I was looking there and it is hard to find...what are the stats on testing currently does anyone know?

smurgen wrote: »

Idioctic logic.If the opinion of anyone outside the crisis response is irrelevant why do they have press conferences?

Is this a serious question?

The press conferences are to inform people what is happening.

None of you are part of managing and responding to the crisis. You all get that right? There are actual qualified people actively managing the situation.

Jesus lads you are fairly dense. Bunch of Walter Mittys.

Ballso wrote: »

Is this a serious question?

The press conferences are to inform people what is happening.

None of you are part of managing and responding to the crisis. You all get that right? There are actual qualified people actively managing the situation.

Jesus lads you are fairly dense. Bunch of Walter Mittys.

Calm down. If my opinion is not relevant to you...just ignore it.

JohnnyFlash

The Shinners really aren’t capturing the national mood on this. Shinnerbots like The Risen over on the Journal are taking a hammering. Very much backed into a corner, and getting extremely tetchy as a result.

Phoebas

tikkahunter wrote: »

https://twitter.com/sinnfeinireland/status/1247903498902966273

That’s great Louise , tell them what they already know

How is Louise O'Reilly going to get a 'full picture' from some Twitter responses?

This makes no sense at all.

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Calm down. If my opinion is not relevant to you...just ignore it.

It's not relevant to anyone. That's the point. You spend all day every day on here spouting irrelevant nonsense from the sidelines, second guessing people who actually matter and looking to score your little victories which count for nothing anywhere except in your own head.

Sinn Fein in a nutshell.

all about the mane

Phoebas wrote: »

How is Louise O'Reilly going to get a 'full picture' from some Twitter responses?

This makes no sense at all.

She's like the orange oaf in the oval office. He loves twitter as well.

all about the mane

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

The Shinners really aren’t capturing the national mood on this. Shinnerbots like The Risen over on the Journal are taking a hammering. Very much backed into a corner, and getting extremely tetchy as a result.

Yep. The election result seems a long time ago now.

Brother-in-law thought I'd get a laugh from this given who I work for.....

Another SF TD demonstrating a level of cluelessness that's almost enviable.

Deputy Tully is urging the government to liaise with the many medical device companies with facilities here in Ireland to produce domestic kits to increase testing capacity here.

Medical device production is not a generic activity - production is not interchangeable.

And the company she references - Randox - don't do medical devices, afaik.

Sultan_of_Ping wrote: »

Brother-in-law thought I'd get a laugh from this given who I work for.....

Another SF TD demonstrating a level of cluelessness that's almost enviable.

Medical device production is not a generic activity - production is not interchangeable.

And the company she references - Randox - don't do medical devices, afaik.

This seems to pervade the whole organisation. They think their stupid unqualified opinions are just as valid as industry professionals, senior public servants, senior doctors etc.

It's insane. It's irritating enough at the best of times, but sure we live in a democracy and we have to listen to even the dullards. But holy **** does a crisis like this bring the whole thing into stark relief.

Ballso wrote: »

It's not relevant to anyone. That's the point. You spend all day every day on here spouting irrelevant nonsense from the sidelines, second guessing people who actually matter and looking to score your little victories which count for nothing anywhere except in your own head.

Sinn Fein in a nutshell.

Seems to engage quite a few. Including yourself.

As a test...ignore what I say. That would be nice.

RandomViewer

Sultan_of_Ping wrote: »

Brother-in-law thought I'd get a laugh from this given who I work for.....

Another SF TD demonstrating a level of cluelessness that's almost enviable.

Medical device production is not a generic activity - production is not interchangeable.

And the company she references - Randox - don't do medical devices, afaik.

Randox do medical diagnostics

Ballso wrote: »

This seems to pervade the whole organisation. They think their stupid unqualified opinions are just as valid as industry professionals, senior public servants, senior doctors etc.

It's insane. It's irritating enough at the best of times, but sure we live in a democracy and we have to listen to even the dullards. But holy **** does a crisis like this bring the whole thing into stark relief.

No clue whatsoever.

It's not like any line isn't already producing vital devices and products.....what would SF tell someone suffering a critical cardiac event - "Sorry, no stents available because the people who make them are learning how to make testing kits"

Or, how about.....

"Would you mind awfully delaying starting chemo, while the people who make your infusion pump learn how to make Covid testing kits?"

Mortelaro

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Seems to engage quite a few. Including yourself.

As a test...ignore what I say. That would be nice.

Jaysis Francie, you'd be down to 3 viewers in this thread then
In this era of self isolation, do you think that's a good idea

RandomViewer wrote: »

Randox do medical diagnostics

Yeah, diagnostics so covid testing is right up their street.......

Abott have thousands employed here, but a good chunk of those are in nutrition - how do you convert a baby formula production line to reagent production?

Or how might Boston Scientific convert from pacemaker and defibrillator production to making testing kits?

Mortelaro wrote: »

Jaysis Francie, you'd be down to 3 viewers in this thread then
In this era of self isolation, do you think that's a good idea

You guys have been trying to shut down discussion on several threads...it is not working and won't work. Sorry for your troubles.

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Sultan_of_Ping wrote: »

No clue whatsoever.

It's not like any line isn't already producing vital devices and products.....what would SF tell someone suffering a critical cardiac event - "Sorry, no stents available because the people who make them are learning how to make testing kits"

Or, how about.....

"Would you mind awfully delaying starting chemo, while the people who make your infusion pump learn how to make Covid testing kits?"

I have relatives,who are having their chemo delayed over this virus,know others who are having radiotherapy for prostate cancer delayed over this virus

Im not trash,so wouldnt use cancer victims to further political points

smurgen

Sultan_of_Ping wrote: »

Yeah, diagnostics so covid testing is right up their street.......

Abott have thousands employed here, but a good chunk of those are in nutrition - how do you convert a baby formula production line to reagent production?

Or how might Boston Scientific convert from pacemaker and defibrillator production to making testing kits?

Oh oh oh. Wasn't the Spin Unit telling us that a global lack of reagents was the reason our testing was down? Lads looking like yer gonna have to have an emergency meeting tonight.

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1247874606981152772?s=19

Sultan_of_Ping wrote: »

No clue whatsoever.

It's not like any line isn't already producing vital devices and products.....what would SF tell someone suffering a critical cardiac event - "Sorry, no stents available because the people who make them are learning how to make testing kits"

Or, how about.....

"Would you mind awfully delaying starting chemo, while the people who make your infusion pump learn how to make Covid testing kits?"

Must be difficult to conceptualise complex problems when your professional experience is working in a shop. I guess they feel they need to be in control and projecting here helps them. It's sad really.

christy c

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I was looking there and it is hard to find...what are the stats on testing currently does anyone know?

It was on the main Covid 19 thread but can't recall where. Easier get answers to this type of thing there as this and the FG thread is mainly about point scoring.

Phoebas

smurgen wrote: »

Oh oh oh. Wasn't the Spin Unit telling us that a global lack of reagents was the reason our testing was down? Lads looking like yer gonna have to have an emergency meeting tonight.

You must understand that when they say that Ireland is the second largest exporter of reagents, this doesn't mean that the Irish state is exporting reagents.
These are private companies with contracts to supply reagents abroad so we don't have any particular claim on them ... unless you'd like to start appropriating private property.

Mortelaro

FrancieBrady wrote: »

You guys have been trying to shut down discussion on several threads...it is not working and won't work. Sorry for your troubles.

L0l

Btw to answer your question earlier, we're 5th on a list of 15 European countries that report testing numbers according to today's dept of health news conference

Ballso wrote: »

Must be difficult to conceptualise complex problems when your professional experience is working in a shop. I guess they feel they need to be in control and projecting here helps them. It's sad really.

I'd suggest they'd take a tour around a plant or two, but if we were as immune to Covid-19 as SF are to facts and information we'd be laughing

I can't imagine they'd not let the realities of the situation get in the way of a simplistic soundbite or the pursuit of a cheap headline.

aido79

smurgen wrote: »

Oh oh oh. Wasn't the Spin Unit telling us that a global lack of reagents was the reason our testing was down? Lads looking like yer gonna have to have an emergency meeting tonight.

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1247874606981152772?s=19

Did you even read that article?

This is from the article:

"It said the reagents were used to diagnose other illnesses as tests for Covid-19 were only developed this year. But it said it was "unclear whether or not these products could be used to test for Covid-19'. "

There is more than one type of reagent.

Mortelaro wrote: »

L0l

Btw to answer your question earlier, we're 5th on a list of 10 European countries that report testing numbers according to today's dept of health news conference

I was looking for 'stats' plural...tests done and results given. hard to find the second figure.

smurgen

aido79 wrote: »

Did you even read that article?

This is from the article:

"It said the reagents were used to diagnose other illnesses as tests for Covid-19 were only developed this year. But it said it was "unclear whether or not these products could be used to test for Covid-19'. "

There is more than one type of reagent.

"The report also noted that Ireland is the fourth largest exporter of medical devices that can be used to treat Covid-19. These include ventilators"

Are you willing to bet that in 17bn worth of sales and with Ireland at the cutting edge of this type of manufacturing that it's not being made here?

smurgen

Phoebas wrote: »

You must understand that when they say that Ireland is the second largest exporter of reagents, this doesn't mean that the Irish state is exporting reagents.
These are private companies with contracts to supply reagents abroad so we don't have any particular claim on them ... unless you'd like to start appropriating private property.

Other countries are doing exactly this. If we'd a taoiseach that's not part timing it on the phones maybe we as host nations to these companies could negotiate a deal?

Phoebas

smurgen wrote: »

Other countries are doing exactly this. If we'd a taoiseach that's not part timing it on the phones maybe we as host nations to these companies could negotiate a deal?

So what is it you want - the government to appropriate private property or the government to negotiate a deal? It can't be both.

It sounds to me that the course you want the government to take is any course that they are not now taking.
A classic Sinn Fein stance.