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CoVid19 Part XIV - 8,089 in ROI (288 deaths) 1,589 in NI (92 deaths) (10/04) Read OP

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    #5432
    spookwoman
    Registered Users Posts: 9,922 ✭✭✭spookwoman


    MrMusician18 wrote: »
    Lol, you actually think people are keeping a necessary distance? While what I saw out is obviously anecdotal - there wasn't much social distancing going on. We were told no unnecessary journeys. Easter egg deliveries are not necessary, yet lots seem to think they are the exception.

    We will have a full blown crisis if what I saw is typical across the country. And I don't live anywhere special.

    Happening everywhere people having visitors about etc. see it every day here.

    Looks like crap happening again up the street


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    #5433
    Hamsterchops
    Registered Users Posts: 3,135 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    gabeeg wrote: »
    .Cummings is a little freak. He shouldn't be anywhere near power.

    Curious character, always in the background (in an anorak) whilst lurking in the shadows.

    ...and pulling the strings @ No:10 ?


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    #5434
    sonofenoch
    Registered Users Posts: 2,157 ✭✭✭sonofenoch


    Snickers Man wrote: »
    The WHO is to blame!!!!

    Won't get fooled again...


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    #5435
    jackboy
    Registered Users Posts: 4,518 ✭✭✭jackboy


    petes wrote: »
    None of the armchair scientists/medical people here knew anything before anyone else, only guessing.

    Some decisions were bad, some good, hindsight is great when you are saying people made the wrong decisions.

    It's a novel corona virus, no one knew.

    In fairness everyone knew that the flights from Northern Italy should have been stopped early on. 5000 rugby fans from one of the most contaminated regions in the world should not have been let into Dublin. Irish people going to Cheltenham should not have been allowed.

    It’s not hindsight, we didn’t even try to minimise access for the virus into the country.


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    #5436
    Hooter23
    Registered Users Posts: 1,509 ✭✭✭Hooter23


    Still no where near the amount of deaths we get every single winter from common flu...A 1% perecent death rate for this amount of disruption is ridiculous SARS AND MERS disease had a death rate between 25-34%...This so called pandemic is way over blown for what it is...the death rate would be even lower the the 1% if it weren't for the fact that all the victims were very old and very sick already


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    #5437
    Rob A. Bank
    Registered Users Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    INMO Trolley Watch figures for April 8th 2020

    23 beds short in Ireland's hospitals today, mainly in Limerick.

    https://www.inmo.ie/Trolley_Ward_Watch


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    #5438
    Fiery mutant
    Registered Users Posts: 1,553 ✭✭✭Fiery mutant


    Hooter23 wrote: »
    Still no where near the amount of deaths we get every single winter from common flu...A 1% perecent death rate for this amount of disruption is ridiculous SARS AND MERS disease had a death rate between 25-34%...This so called pandemic is way over blown for what it is...the death rate would be even lower the the 1% if it weren't for the fact that all the victims were very old and very sick already

    You obviously haven’t a clue what you’re talking about. Go back to your schoolwork while the adults have a conversation.

    We should defend our way of life to an extent that any attempt on it is crushed, so that any adversary will never make such an attempt in the future.



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    #5439
    leck
    Registered Users Posts: 1,357 ✭✭✭leck


    Hooter23 wrote: »
    Still no where near the amount of deaths we get every single winter from common flu...A 1% perecent death rate for this amount of disruption is ridiculous SARS AND MERS disease had a death rate between 25-34%...This so called pandemic is way over blown for what it is...the death rate would be even lower the the 1% if it weren't for the fact that all the victims were very old and very sick already
    Where are you coming from? This is like a post from five weeks ago.

    We don't yet know the percentage death rate and won't for some time.


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    #5440
    Hamsterchops
    Registered Users Posts: 3,135 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    Hooter23 wrote: »
    Still no where near the amount of deaths we get every single winter from common flu...A 1% perecent death rate for this amount of disruption is ridiculous SARS AND MERS disease had a death rate between 25-34%...This so called pandemic is way over blown for what it is...the death rate would be even lower the the 1% if it weren't for the fact that all the victims were very old and very sick already

    Wow, that's a brave idea to post in the current environment.

    I guess the fact is that his Covid-19 is new to our immune systems, and to medicine in general + the illness it creates must be added over and above the annual flu figures, hence it's an extra (and new) headache to deal with, it's also very unpredictable & volatile.


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    #5441
    Tacitus Kilgore
    Registered Users Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Tacitus Kilgore


    Hooter23 wrote: »
    Still no where near the amount of deaths we get every single winter from common flu...A 1% perecent death rate for this amount of disruption is ridiculous SARS AND MERS disease had a death rate between 25-34%...This so called pandemic is way over blown for what it is...the death rate would be even lower the the 1% if it weren't for the fact that all the victims were very old and very sick already


    Wowza, here's a brand new viewpoint that none of us have seen before.


    You should contact the WHO and the HSE and let them know about your groundbreaking discovery and research.


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    #5442
    bekker
    Registered Users Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I'm on 2 medications and only had money for one a while back so got it. Went in for the other one a few days later and the chemist realised that I shouldn't have got the first one as my prescription was out. But gave me the second one anyway. They can be very picky sometimes but they have a lot of latitude in reality. Ring a few times and see what they can do, if it's something you get monthly they might just take it off your next 3/6 month script.
    GPs have always? been able to fax refill prescriptions, since the start of the week they're all supposed to have access to an HSE? mail system allowing them to do it over the net.


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    #5443
    frillyleaf
    Registered Users Posts: 801 ✭✭✭frillyleaf


    gabeeg wrote: »
    Ok. Tell me what he handled well in the weeks prior to their collective come to jesus moment.

    I've given you a list of incredibly important things that he made a pigs ear of.
    Can you tell me what they got right?

    What was the come to Jesus moment ?


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    #5444
    Hobgoblin11
    Registered Users Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    Looks like Spanish deaths on the rise again, any chance of a break covid?

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



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    #5445
    Strazdas
    Registered Users Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Hooter23 wrote: »
    Still no where near the amount of deaths we get every single winter from common flu...A 1% perecent death rate for this amount of disruption is ridiculous SARS AND MERS disease had a death rate between 25-34%...This so called pandemic is way over blown for what it is...the death rate would be even lower the the 1% if it weren't for the fact that all the victims were very old and very sick already

    It's a tasty soundbite, but virologists think we would already have seen 2000 deaths and perhaps 50,000 positive cases without any restrictions - these type of numbers would have knocked out our health service......you'd probably be looking at 10k+ health professionals with the virus and unable to work.


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    #5446
    duffman13
    Registered Users Posts: 8,946 ✭✭✭duffman13


    Hooter23 wrote: »
    Still no where near the amount of deaths we get every single winter from common flu...A 1% perecent death rate for this amount of disruption is ridiculous SARS AND MERS disease had a death rate between 25-34%...This so called pandemic is way over blown for what it is...the death rate would be even lower the the 1% if it weren't for the fact that all the victims were very old and very sick already

    The R0 of SARS is similar to COVID 19 according to the WHO, SARS is rated slightly higher in actually in terms of transmissions however current infections dont seem to stack up with that. MERS is not very contagious in comparison.

    The problem you have here is not the death rate, its the transmission rate that is the problem. If its 1% Death rate then fine but at the rate of transmission, it was estimated 60 - 80% of people would catch it if we did nothing. 1% of 5 million is 50,000 people dieing, never mind the others who would die from normally non life threatening issues as a result of a vastly overstretched health service.

    Tbh your last line sums up your nonsense post, ALL the victims were not old and sick A 32 year old colleague of wifes with no underlying conditions passed away last week. And the stats are available for you to see how many had no underlying conditions before you spout such nonsense


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    #5447
    RugbyLad11
    Registered Users Posts: 547 ✭✭✭RugbyLad11


    rm212 wrote: »
    A lot of people out and about around the estate today. Families heading out with the kids wearing backpacks, looking like they're heading to the park. Neighbours at eachother's doors not observing social distancing when chatting and lots of noise, lots of cars. It has been quiet enough to hear a pin drop for the last couple of weeks, but somewhat yesterday and particularly today, you'd say it's almost 'bustling' in the estate. Looks like people are starting to disregard the measures :(

    Lots of people think this is a holiday, all off work and drinking all day. The sooner end this 'lockdown' the better because no one is even following it!


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    #5448
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    Some good news about a vaccine. Scientists are hopeful that a vaccine will be formed.

    https://news.sky.com/story/amp/coronavirus-vaccine-hopes-boosted-as-scientists-find-virus-has-low-shielding-11970430


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    #5449
    Rob A. Bank
    Registered Users Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    Distribution of laboratory confirmed cases of COVID-19 in the EU/EEA and the UK, as of 8 April 2020 @ 08:00 hrs.

    novel-coronavirus-cases-EU-UK-2020-04-08_0.png?itok=_Uun-Zab

    Looks like the peak of European daily cases occurred on the 1st of April now.

    Still well over 20,000 cases per day :-(

    Larger clickable version here :- https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/cases-2019-ncov-eueea


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    #5450
    BanditLuke
    Registered Users Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    Mortelaro wrote: »
    The UK last 24hr death total must be close to a 1000 today ,the biggest now in Europe as England alone was 828 and Scotland, wales and NI have to be added to that :eek:

    France is worse I believe but yeah the UK looks bleak alright.


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    #5451
    [Deleted User]
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    Hooter23 wrote: »
    Still no where near the amount of deaths we get every single winter from common flu...A 1% perecent death rate for this amount of disruption is ridiculous SARS AND MERS disease had a death rate between 25-34%...This so called pandemic is way over blown for what it is...the death rate would be even lower the the 1% if it weren't for the fact that all the victims were very old and very sick already

    1% is 45,000 people in Ireland alone


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    #5452
    BanditLuke
    Registered Users Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    spookwoman wrote: »
    Tinfoil hat brigade
    https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1247889718198468608?s=20

    You'd shed a tear for the intelligence of our species when you read stuff like that.


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    #5453
    tobefrank321
    Registered Users Posts: 4,470 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    Worztron wrote: »
    Is the lockdown doing to be extended?

    Yes. Because they haven't a clue what the exit plan looks like.


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    #5454
    Ace2007
    Registered Users Posts: 19,705 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007


    Sleety_Rain wrote: »
    Whilst there are more people out and about today I cant see there being much of an issue, it's more our medium term normality.

    Most people out on streets are sticking with family unit 99% of time and most are keeping to the 2m distance when passing.

    The chances of you catching the virus while walking by someone outdoors is extremely slim.

    Think people overeacting just because people are out in their gardens or going for walks to parks etc. It's not a major source of spread.

    Your talking about normality?? you'd swear we are 3 months through these restriction and virus, and not 3 weeks.

    What about the 1% of the time, just think if 99% of the Irish population did what they were told, we would still have around 50,000 ignoring the rules - that's a lot of people that could potential get sick and spread the infection.

    Why not just stay indoor and have the walk/run in a 2km radius. The directive clearly stated do not leave your home unless for work, medical, food or exercise reasons, sitting in the park, or going to the beach is none of them.

    Do you want us to have 100 deaths a day before people will do what the medical experts recommend?


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    #5455
    duffman13
    Registered Users Posts: 8,946 ✭✭✭duffman13


    bekker wrote: »
    GPs have always? been able to fax refill prescriptions, since the start of the week they're all supposed to have access to an HSE? mail system allowing them to do it over the net.

    A faxed Prescrption needs a physical copy posted in afterwards however it will suffice for the patient. If you contact your usual chemist, they have been given permission to dispense longer than the validity of your previous prescrption. They can also dispense up 10 days emergency supply as opposed to 5 previously.

    Healthmail is not new, it is however chronically underused but this is starting to see more use now since Covid-19. Sooner the better we go to eprescribing in GPs. It will take a lot of volume out of surgeries for repeat prescriptions


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    #5456
    kilkenny31
    Registered Users Posts: 701 ✭✭✭kilkenny31


    Deleted User wrote: »
    1% is 45,000 people in Ireland alone

    That is with everyone infected. Left to its own devices its unlikely that more than 50-60% of the population would get infected. Plus the death rate is likely to be a lot less than 1%.


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    #5457
    domrush
    Registered Users Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭domrush


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    1% is 45,000 people in Ireland alone

    It’s 1% of people who are infected, not 1% of the entire population


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    #5458
    RugbyLad11
    Registered Users Posts: 547 ✭✭✭RugbyLad11


    MrMusician18 wrote: »
    After going out for a walk at lunch and seeing what people were at in that limited time it pretty clear we are going to have a spike again in two weeks time after Easter. Lots of people visiting and we saw two grannies doing Easter egg deliveries to their grandchildren.

    This weekend is going to be a disaster.

    They are all selfish ****ers, I have only gone out 2 times (for shopping) in the past 3 weeks, meanwhile they are spreading the virus everywhere


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    #5459
    Ficheall
    Registered Users Posts: 9,028 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    kilkenny31 wrote: »
    That is with everyone infected. Left to its own devices its unlikely that more than 50-60% of the population would get infected. Plus the death rate is likely to be a lot less than 1%.
    Based on what, exactly?


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    #5460
    fritzelly
    Registered Users Posts: 17,363 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    To brighten up.your day, tell me this doesn't make you smile

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lr_tEdQvFcc


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    #5461
    frillyleaf
    Registered Users Posts: 801 ✭✭✭frillyleaf


    Hooter23 wrote: »
    Still no where near the amount of deaths we get every single winter from common flu...A 1% perecent death rate for this amount of disruption is ridiculous SARS AND MERS disease had a death rate between 25-34%...This so called pandemic is way over blown for what it is...the death rate would be even lower the the 1% if it weren't for the fact that all the victims were very old and very sick already

    It isn’t about the % death rate, it is about our healthcare system being able to cope with this illness alongside everything else it does. It simply can’t manage the increase of sick patients and their needs alongside a functioning health system.


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