CoVid19 Part XIV - 8,089 in ROI (288 deaths) 1,589 in NI (92 deaths) (10/04) Read OP

ihdxwz4a3pem9j · 05-04-2020 06:35PM

I presume he will be triaging the patients, assessing whether or not they require isolation and testing. At the moment, most GPs are doing telephone triaging. This job would be in line with his skillset in a previous life (GP).

He is not giving up his day-job to exclusively do this. The article says that he is doing it one day per week.

I am not a particular lover of politics. But credit where credit is due. He has trained for nearly 10 years in medicine (5 years in college, one year intern, 2 years on the GP scheme). Being a doctor is part of his identity. He has a set of skills, and is putting them to good use. I have friends who are coming back onto the register, after leaving. They want to put all those years of training to use. And if at least one patient benefits from those skills, fair play!

The gesture means a lot! And it might encourage a few doctors to reregister with the IMC

Westernyelp · 05-04-2020 06:35PM

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote:

Adjusted for population difference, the U.S has less deaths per million than Ireland. So they are technically doing better than us. (so far)

Very simplistic reasoning

is_that_so · 05-04-2020 06:37PM

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »

Right, so PR for the cameras basically...

He should concentrate on leading the country. He can potentially do a lot more good for our healthcare workers and everyone else, if he focused on doing his actually dayjob to the best of his abilities!

Well if you can link to a camera shot of him doing it, then it is. I think it's a good thing that someone can offer their services as a professional, like the many others who've also made themselves available.

Achasanai · 05-04-2020 06:37PM

hotmail.com wrote: »

Has anyone done any comparisons with countries that are similarly sized to us?

This is far more relevant as US is a federal state with a diversity of people's and cultures.

Ireland is completely different, with a centralised government and a largely homogenous culture.

You can adjust by population (and other ways) through this site: http://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/

Also aligns the deaths per day after the first announcement, so you can see where we stand at a particular point in time too.

podgeandrodge · 05-04-2020 06:38PM

Achasanai wrote: »

We're also on a par with Netherlands and Italy (adjusting for time & population) and only behind Spain and Belgium (and the microstates).

Are you saying you think we will end up with as many deaths per capita as Italy?

growleaves · 05-04-2020 06:38PM

He has a set of skills, and is putting them to good use.

But what he does have are a very particular set of skills. Skills he acquired over a very long career. Skills that make him a nightmare for people like SF

Naggdefy · 05-04-2020 06:38PM

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »

Right, so PR for the cameras basically...

He should concentrate on leading the country. He can potentially do a lot more good for our healthcare workers and everyone else, if he focused on doing his actual dayjob to the best of his abilities!

Absolutely. Our beloved leader isn't the worst, but he's a PR whore

Be right back · 05-04-2020 06:38PM

People are damned if they do, and damned if they don't.

is_that_so · 05-04-2020 06:39PM

wrangler wrote: »

We have a well paid civil service you know ...... too well paid maybe.
It reminds me of soccer..... it doesn't matter how s...e or lazy the team is, the manager gets blamed

NEPHT are in charge in so much of this. Politics has largely just provided the voice and the management of economic measures.

munsterlegend · 05-04-2020 06:39PM

Be right back wrote: »

People are damned if they do, and damned if they don't.

Never please all of the people all of the time

cameramonkey · 05-04-2020 06:39PM

growleaves wrote: »

But what he does have are a very particular set of skills. Skills he acquired over a very long career. Skills that make him a nightmare for people like SF

SF are people?

hotmail.com · 05-04-2020 06:39PM

Achasanai wrote: »

You can adjust by population (and other ways) through this site: http://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/

Also aligns the deaths per day after the first announcement, so you can see where we stand at a particular point in time too.

Fascinating thanks.

Naggdefy · 05-04-2020 06:40PM

Be right back wrote: »

People are damned if they do, and damned if they don't.

In this case if he 'don't' and led the country he wouldn't be damned.

He'd need a refresher course that would waste time and resources.

lawrencesummers · 05-04-2020 06:40PM

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »

What would be the actual point of Leo suiting up and going into battle in some random hospital...??

Serious question?

It would be a bit like the general of an army, jumping into the trenches with his soldiers and risking getting killed for the sake of currying favour with the men he's supposed to be leading... in other words, it would be very foolish and dumb!

Strikes me as more PR bullsh!t from our esteemed leader! Unless someone can enlighten me as to some other sensible reason why this would be necessary?

Why don’t you post here what you are doing to help the problem and allow people to assess that.

He’s a Trained medical professional, if he can help in some way then let him. When all this passes and he’s back to the full time Gig then you can assess if it Was worthy of not.

And it’s a damn side better than “you should be wearing masks but I’m not gonna” Tool that’s across the pond.

Danzy · 05-04-2020 06:40PM

Snow Garden wrote: »

Worst example was the PPE delivery from China. Red carpet rolled out. Huge number of Gardai escorting the dodgy equipment in army trucks. The whole hero thing was a waste of resources and money.

The whole thing is very black, black, black, black, no glimmer of light.

Professor Moriarty · 05-04-2020 06:42PM

lawrencesummers wrote: »

Why don’t you post here what you are doing to help the problem and allow people to assess that.

He’s a Trained medical professional, if he can help in some way then let him. When all this passes and he’s back to the full time Gig then you can assess if it Was worthy of not.

If he didn't make this gesture, there would be plenty of people asking why the selfish bastard didn't help out.

Achasanai · 05-04-2020 06:42PM

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Are you saying you think we will end up with as many deaths per capita as Italy?

No, just where we are at the moment.

wrangler · 05-04-2020 06:43PM

Naggdefy wrote: »

Absolutely. Our beloved leader isn't the worst, but he's a PR whore

They are but a figurehead, that's their job.
You'd be naive if you thought they ran the country

Harry Palmr · 05-04-2020 06:43PM

Two types of people on this thread now. Those willing to take a holistic view and those who are indulging in party politicking.

ihdxwz4a3pem9j · 05-04-2020 06:43PM

Naggdefy wrote: »

Absolutely. Our beloved leader isn't the worst, but he's a PR whore

At least by doing the one session per week, it will give him an insight into the reality on the ground and what medical professionals face on a daily basis. Thus, he will be able to make better informed decisions about the profession

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! · 05-04-2020 06:43PM

Westernyelp wrote: »

Very simplistic reasoning

Yep, about as simple and straightforward as it gets really!

But still correct.

bekker · 05-04-2020 06:45PM

hotmail.com wrote: »

Has anyone done any comparisons with countries that are similarly sized to us?

This is far more relevant as US is a federal state with a diversity of people's and cultures.

Ireland is completely different, with a centralised government and a largely homogenous culture.

Couple of days ago I challenged the nonsense of comparing Ireland or anywhere else for that matter on the basis of relative populations.

It's a nonsense because there are just too many disparate factors necessary to give weight to before even the crudest comparison could be made with any justification.

Can't understand why people carry out and hold to theories based on such meaningless comparisons with such determination and passion.

cameramonkey · 05-04-2020 06:45PM

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0319/1124042-coronavirus-ireland/
19 March: Minister for Health Simon Harris has said it is impossible to predict when 15,000 Covid-19 tests a day will be carried out, but he believes it will happen in the next few days.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/coronavirus-hse-says-testing-to-double-to-4-500-per-day-this-week-1.4221417?mode=sample&auth-failed=1&pw-origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishtimes.com%2Fnews%2Fireland%2Firish-news%2Fcoronavirus-hse-says-testing-to-double-to-4-500-per-day-this-week-1.4221417
Today :Coronavirus: HSE says testing to double to 4,500 per day this week

Macdarack · 05-04-2020 06:46PM

It might not be a bad idea for Leo to trench out here and see what's going on, he could make important decisions for healthcare workers based on seeing what's actually going on there.
Fair play to him putting his shoulder to the wheel. I'd say he's sincere.

Strazdas · 05-04-2020 06:47PM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

If he didn't make this gesture, there would be plenty of people asking why the selfish bastard didn't help out.

What he is doing is symbolic but sometimes symbolic can be powerful and helpful.

It's a bit like when the then Princess Elizabeth was a truck driver and mechanic in the military during the War.

JP Liz V1 · 05-04-2020 06:47PM

Good on Leo going back to work as a doctor, helping the front line

fin12 · 05-04-2020 06:48PM

wrangler wrote: »

We have a well paid civil service you know ...... too well paid maybe.
It reminds me of soccer..... it doesn't matter how s...e or lazy the team is, the manager gets blamed

The starting salary for a clerical officer is €24,104.

The starting salary of a Garda is €23,750.

I wouldn’t call either of those salaries too well paid.

keynes · 05-04-2020 06:48PM

Madisyn Modern Spaniel wrote: »

At least by doing the one session per week, it will give him an insight into the reality on the ground and what medical professionals face on a daily basis. Thus, he will be able to make better informed decisions about the profession

But you can imagine the cherry-picked ward he'll end up in, which will hardly be representative. Its quite conceivable he'll only just be a serious distraction from the normal business of the hospital

ZX7R · 05-04-2020 06:49PM

Achasanai wrote: »

No, just where we are at the moment.

Reading that our nurses are fearing the surge,
Question was asked in the comment section what if no surge comes,a lovely reply from a nurse it would mean everything was done right and at the right time.

easypazz · 05-04-2020 06:49PM

cameramonkey wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0319/1124042-coronavirus-ireland/
19 March: Minister for Health Simon Harris has said it is impossible to predict when 15,000 Covid-19 tests a day will be carried out, but he believes it will happen in the next few days.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/coronavirus-hse-says-testing-to-double-to-4-500-per-day-this-week-1.4221417?mode=sample&auth-failed=1&pw-origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishtimes.com%2Fnews%2Fireland%2Firish-news%2Fcoronavirus-hse-says-testing-to-double-to-4-500-per-day-this-week-1.4221417
Today :Coronavirus: HSE says testing to double to 4,500 per day this week

You knew there is a global shortage of supplies stopping additional testing when you posted that, didnt you?

CoVid19 Part XIV - 8,089 in ROI (288 deaths) 1,589 in NI (92 deaths) (10/04) Read OP

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