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CoVid19 Part XIV - 8,089 in ROI (288 deaths) 1,589 in NI (92 deaths) (10/04) Read OP

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  • #272
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    harr wrote: »
    No clear answer on wearing masks , it’s probably looking like they would offer some protection if and it’s a big if they are used correctly...the risk is people touching face taking them off...only 109 icu beds currently available..

    Are we now counting how many ICU beds are left?


  • #273
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Just on the supermarkets. I think they can do a lot more. I think they are still letting too many people in at the same time. They should also make it a one way system from when you enter to when you leave. That way you are not meeting people coming the other way in an aisle.

    They need national guidelines - some shops obviously have seperate in and out - Lidl and Aldi do so by design but smaller shops always have a problem with this but what they can do if put in tape barriers near the door so those going in and out are kept as distant as possible combined with one out/one in controlled flow.


  • #274
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Just on the supermarkets. I think they can do a lot more. I think they are still letting too many people in at the same time. They should also make it a one way system from when you enter to when you leave. That way you are not meeting people coming the other way in an aisle.

    I know all of this came about so quickly and under the circumstances they are probably doing the best they can but going forward changes have to happen. The queuing system outside shops is ridiculous. Either

    1) more shops get on board with the online grocery shopping like Dunnes, it would be fantastic if Aldi and Lidl could do it too.

    Or

    2) implement a booking system to go into their shops. Where they have timeslots for people to book.


  • #275
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Rob A. Bank wrote: »
    The last few press conferences were well insulated from live journalists too.

    as I said ... poor show.
    I'm here for the data not the optics.


  • #276
    Away With The Fairies
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    Azatadine wrote: »
    I'd say symptomatic people should wear them to reduce spread. They should be taught how to use them properly.

    Most people do not use them properly.

    What about the people that are asymptomatic?


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  • #277
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Just on the supermarkets. I think they can do a lot more. I think they are still letting too many people in at the same time. They should also make it a one way system from when you enter to when you leave. That way you are not meeting people coming the other way in an aisle.
    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    Dr Birx has advised people in the US not to even go to the grocery store or pharmacy during the next 14 days if at all possible as its expected that the peak will be hitting over that time and its make or break to flatten the curve. Hopefully people listen.

    But it's kind of positive if the peak comes that soon and things start to turn around

    Hadn't it also been said that your chance of contracting coronavirus in supermarkets was relatively low i.e in absence of being sneezed or coughed on, and taking reasonable precautions washing hands etc. and keeping your distance in general, you were not taking big risks?

    I have to admit to being a little confused on the issue of supermarkets, because there are thousands of staff there all day and I haven't heard them getting infected in large numbers, if they have one would imaging we would hearing about it?

    So I would like thoughts on how risky, or where the main risks are, from doing the weekly shop. Note, I am not saying there aren't risks, I am asking in terms of the significance of the risk. Thanks.


  • #278
    Naggdefy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭Naggdefy


    careless sherpa wrote: »
    Jesus that is pretty low

    What's low about it? Ye're all so dainty and PC.

    A shower of frilly girls knickers.


  • #279
    BanditLuke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Just on the supermarkets. I think they can do a lot more. I think they are still letting too many people in at the same time. They should also make it a one way system from when you enter to when you leave. That way you are not meeting people coming the other way in an aisle.

    I think they might have to go further than that. They need to make the wearing of masks and gloves mandatory as well as hugely limiting the amounts in the shop. I know for a fact my local Lidl allow no more than 60 in the shop at any one time but i think this will have to come down to 30-35 max as some people are just not capable of keeping the required distance from each other.

    I also know this is controversial but i think longer opening hours even until 2am in the morning might be helpful as it gives people the option of shopping later lessoning the amount in queues outside the shops at any given time. I know personally i'd have no problem doing my weekly shop at 1am if it meant i was encountering less people. Yes it will require staff to work longer more unsocial hours but it's all about giving the virus less chance of spreading.


  • #280
    IAMAMORON
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭IAMAMORON


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    With 6000 people a year in Ireland dying from tobacco related diseases why are shops still selling and the government still taxing a product that kills over 100 people a week when the entire country has gone in to a stoneage lockdown for a total of 137 people being killed by a virus?

    https://www.hse.ie/eng/about/who/tobaccocontrol/kf/

    Never miss an opportunity.

    Anything else you would like to coerce or ban?


  • #281
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    To the people complaining about some of the gear from China, sign something that says you and your family would rather not be treated by anyone using any of the usable stuff from China.


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  • #282
    easypazz
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    BanditLuke wrote: »
    With each passing hour it's becoming more and more obvious the government got absolutely mugged with the PPE gear from the Chinese. The little good will the Chinese had left from the people of Ireland has vanished. Imagine sending utter garbage like that to people on the front lines putting their lives at risk for the good of us all.


    There was always going to be a bit of a risk with the first flights, as things go on every flight will have more and more of the right stuff.

    People seem to think this massive global disaster is easy to manage - its not.


  • #283
    tikkahunter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭tikkahunter


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    How ? They've just demonstrated some of the stuff isn't what has been used here before but is used in other countries and perfectly safe for use here once staff are given the correct training for use. And it's only the first batch.

    The stuff that is fully unusable they said was mostly donations that doesn't meet health standards.
    All that’s wrong with him is he has been shouting from the rooftops about the PPE not being up to scratch, now everyone can see the majority is . I would feel more comfortable using heavier stuff than the normal gear if I was directly treating someone with this virus. I work in pharma and we are struggling to get PPE so the government is doing well securing this .


  • #284
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    Was there a press conference this morning?

    I'm not long awake.


  • #285
    MikeSoys
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 454 ✭✭MikeSoys


    should i allow a house cleaner into the home for a few hrs?... is there hse guidelines about this appart from no visitors


  • #286
    easypazz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,346 ✭✭✭easypazz


    Deleted User wrote: »
    To the people complaining about some of the gear from China, sign something that says you and your family would rather not be treated by anyone using any of the usable stuff from China.

    And boycott all Chinese goods to make your protest.

    Like the ones whinging about Ryanair, in 6 months they will all be scouring the net to book the cheapest Ryanair option possible.


  • #287
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    owlbethere wrote: »
    Was there a press conference this morning?

    I'm not long awake.

    Still on, Q&A part of it.


  • #288
    Lundstram
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭Lundstram


    MikeSoys wrote: »
    should i allow a house cleaner into the home for a few hrs?... is there hse guidelines about this appart from no visitors
    No. Clean your own house ffs. :rolleyes:


  • #289
    Mervyn Skidmore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,210 ✭✭✭Mervyn Skidmore


    MikeSoys wrote: »
    should i allow a house cleaner into the home for a few hrs?

    No.


  • #290
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,448 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    tikkahunter wrote: »
    All that’s wrong with him is he has been shouting from the rooftops about the PPE not being up to scratch, now everyone can see the majority is . I would feel more comfortable using heavier stuff than the normal gear if I was directly treating someone with this virus. I work in pharma and we are struggling to get PPE so the government is doing well securing this .

    I'm the same, personally for myself and the safety of staff once they have the training in it I'd much rather someone in the heavy duty suit be treating me than a mesh apron.


  • #291
    easypazz
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    MikeSoys wrote: »
    should i allow a house cleaner into the home for a few hrs?... is there hse guidelines about this appart from no visitors

    April fools was last week.


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  • #292
    careless sherpa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 373 ✭✭careless sherpa


    Naggdefy wrote: »
    What's low about it? Ye're all so dainty and PC.

    A shower of frilly girls knickers.

    If you can't see what was wrong with your comment that says enough about you. Proinsias De Rossa may have had a speech impediment but he never let that hold him back from public life.


  • #293
    RebelButtMunch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭RebelButtMunch


    MikeSoys wrote: »
    should i allow a house cleaner into the home for a few hrs?... is there hse guidelines about this appart from no visitors

    No


  • #294
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Still on, Q&A part of it.

    Thanks, I'm still in bed. I might get up soon


  • #295
    khalessi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,216 ✭✭✭khalessi


    Info from RTE LIVE today

    142 in ICu with covid19
    139 in ICU other reason
    109 beds still available

    total capacity for in HSE is 109
    surge plans in place sees up to 800 staffed and ventilated beds in public system and 1000 involving private capacity
    building up capacity takes time 250 vents arriving this week and a further 1300 up to end of APril. but keep washing hands etc so they dont meed to be used. Staffing important and critical cant use then without staff


  • #296
    Away With The Fairies
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    BanditLuke wrote: »
    I think they might have to go further than that. They need to make the wearing of masks and gloves mandatory as well as hugely limiting the amounts in the shop. I know for a fact my local Lidl allow no more than 60 in the shop at any one time but i think this will have to come down to 30-35 max as some people are just not capable of keeping the required distance from each other.

    I also know this is controversial but i think longer opening hours even until 2am in the morning might be helpful as it gives people the option of shopping later lessoning the amount in queues outside the shops at any given time. I know personally i'd have no problem doing my weekly shop at 1am if it meant i was encountering less people. Yes it will require staff to work longer more unsocial hours but it's all about giving the virus less chance of spreading.

    Night time shopping is a good idea. They can close for a few hours during the day and pack their shelves and clean as well. I know in my local shop, they have shelf stackers in the way and push past you with their trollies of products and no distancing.


  • #297
    Wombatman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,349 ✭✭✭Wombatman


    Thankfully I can work from home. Have observed all the restrictions so far.

    When we rel allowed to go out and about again I won't be wearing a mask on a daily basis, like they do in the East. Not sure if they wear it for air pollution or infections.

    If there is a need to wear a make I will happily stay home.

    Is anyone planning to regularly wear a mask from here on out?


  • #298
    GM228
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,922 ✭✭✭GM228


    13% positive test rate.

    Could see a 585 a day positive rate if stayed at that rate with testing upped to 4500 a day.


  • #299
    blackcard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,326 ✭✭✭blackcard


    I think that this is a very informative presentation by the HSE. I was aware of the 142 people that were in ICU's for Covid-19 but not of the 139 people that were in ICU's for other ailments or that there are only 109 free ICU's.
    I couldn't quite grasp what they were saying about 800 ventilators being available?


  • #300
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,129 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    OK is that 142 currently in ICU?


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  • #301
    cloudatlas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,711 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    Cath kidston on the brink of calling in administrators.


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