CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) Read OP

Stheno · 04-04-2020 05:59PM

josip wrote: »

Where can you see the number currently in ICU?
I can only see 158 admitted to ICU from that tweet and I thought that the number of admissions for 24 hours previously was 156.

The cumulative figure yesterday was 148

Cork Boy 53 · 04-04-2020 06:00PM

harr wrote: »

And did you know according to WhatsApp the Coronavirus was invented so the guberments could keep people inside as the asteroid is likely to hit us ...
:rolleyes:

Something similar to this was posted in the Conspiracy Theories forum on this site. Seems plausible.:rolleyes:

Danzy · 04-04-2020 06:02PM

deisedevil wrote: »

Maybe there are issues with the testing. And this could account for the huge rise in deaths in some areas, such as Bergamo, where thousands of extra deaths have not been diagnosed as covid-19. No idea really but surely a likely scenario would be that some of the "not detected" results are not accurate.

In places like Bergamo the volume of dead meant they couldn't even keep up with them, never mind test or autopsy corpses.

growleaves · 04-04-2020 06:02PM

Hm perhaps the worry over the destruction of European economies should go in the 'Things That Trivially Annoy You' thread? Judging by the way its discussed on here.

YFlyer · 04-04-2020 06:02PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

I think the virus was released on purpose. The lying CCP has said it came from a wet market in Wuhan (easy to believe). There's a bio lab a couple of meters from the market the virus was meant to have come from.

They should be fcuked over and held accountable.

Any evidences for your theory?

ben.schlomo · 04-04-2020 06:02PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

I think the virus was released on purpose. The lying CCP has said it came from a wet market in Wuhan (easy to believe). There's a bio lab a couple of meters from the market the virus was meant to have come from.

They should be fcuked over and held accountable.

You should head out there and sort them out, do ensure to bring your own tinfoil hat though, just so they don't get you with any of their new brainwave viruses.

JP Liz V1 · 04-04-2020 06:03PM

2nd Row Donkey wrote: »

Can I ask a question.

I am currently in isolation with Covid symptoms so apologises if this has been asked multiply times before but I have barely the energy to lift my phone let alone read through endless threads on vivid.

My question is this - if only a small percentage been tested are getting a positive result (I think it's 26% approx but that's not too important) - what is wrong with the other 75 % who are negative.

Is there something else going around or what, theese people obviously had severe enough symptoms to contact their gp and warrent a visit to a test centre or admittance to hospital so whats the deal there.

Accounting for some hypercondra who demanded testing and some front line workers in health care and the gardai who may have been tested as a precaution what's the deal with the rest of them.

I know two people who were rushed to hospital and kept in for 5-6 days and then released after a negative result.

I'm not suggesting there's some sort of conspiracy but as I've laid in bed these last 5 days and watched sky news, cnn and bbc news I haven't seen this discussed

I've seen mention of another flu also around or bad hayfever allergies

If you can call your GP

bekker · 04-04-2020 06:03PM

YFlyer wrote: »

Would that still be classed as a false negative?

If there is insufficient viral shedding at the time of the test the result cannot be 'Positive' hence 'Not Positive', when shedding increases sufficiently a later test from the same individual will be 'Positive'.

I believe that those with Asymptomatic infections will never shed sufficiently to register a 'Positive', the infection can only be detected by blood test >14 days after initial infection.

spookwoman · 04-04-2020 06:04PM

Dank Janniels wrote: »

Local supermarket only letting 10 people in at a time. Was thinking if there was maybe a system where the customers could give the staff a list +they do they shopping insted then collect at the door or another exit. They wouldnt have to be running all around the aisles either if they organise the storerooms abit.

Set up a phone in and collect at a certain time. Hire a few extra people to work over night to put together items. Lot of places have huge carparks and could put them in some Marquee Tents and wheel it out to the person when they come during the day.

UrbanFret · 04-04-2020 06:04PM

I'm beginning to wonder is there even such a thing as "flattening the curve" I'm also convinced there are 2 strains of this virus knocking about. A neighbour was moved from a local hospital to beaumount a few weeks back to be prepared for a triple bypass in the mater. She's also diabetic and has a large hernia. She was put in a ward with other patients who subsequently were tested positive for covid-19. Last Thursday she herself tested positive. 9 days later she is still fine with only mild symptons. Now riddle me that.

niallo27 · 04-04-2020 06:05PM

Bushmaster64 wrote: »

Over a thousand dead in France today.

To put into perspective, that equates to about 71 people here dead in terms of population difference.

Looney1 · 04-04-2020 06:06PM

Definite green shoots appearing in Italy and France. The problem I have though is that these shoots are a result of a near complete lockdown. What happens when we start moving again????

Danzy · 04-04-2020 06:06PM

UrbanFret wrote: »

I'm beginning to wonder is there even such a thing as "flattening the curve" I'm also convinced there are 2 strains of this virus knocking about. A neighbour was moved from a local hospital to beaumount a few weeks back to be prepared for a triple bypass in the mater. She's also diabetic and has a large hernia. She was put in a ward with other patients who subsequently were tested positive for covid-19. Last Thursday she herself tested positive. 9 days later she is still fine with only mild symptons. Now riddle me that.

Nothing surprising or new to be honest in that.

Falls in line with others experiences.

Danzy · 04-04-2020 06:08PM

Looney1 wrote: »

Definite green shoots appearing in Italy and France. The problem I have though is that these shoots are a result of a near complete lockdown. What happens when we start moving again????

We'll all be wearing masks, washing hands, undergoing regular testing, home test kits everywhere, 5 min tests for passengers flying in and out etc etc.

ArchXStanton · 04-04-2020 06:09PM

Looney1 wrote: »

Definite green shoots appearing in Italy and France. The problem I have though is that these shoots are a result of a near complete lockdown. What happens when we start moving again????

How's Italy figures? Haven't looked at them in a while

niallo27 · 04-04-2020 06:10PM

Danzy wrote: »

We'll all be wearing masks, washing hands, undergoing regular testing, home test kits everywhere, 5 min tests for passengers flying in and out etc etc.

Most people would have no issues with this if restrictions were relaxed slowly.

Danzy · 04-04-2020 06:11PM

ArchXStanton wrote: »

How's Italy figures? Haven't looked at them in a while

Flat top mountain and still moving, hopefully to a descent at some stage.

Danzy · 04-04-2020 06:12PM

niallo27 wrote: »

Most people would have no issues with this if restrictions were relaxed slowly.

It would be an inconvenience but we'd all be greatful.

Professor Moriarty · 04-04-2020 06:12PM

Danzy wrote: »

Flat top mountain and still moving, hopefully to a descent at some stage.

Plateau!

YFlyer · 04-04-2020 06:13PM

UrbanFret wrote: »

I'm beginning to wonder is there even such a thing as "flattening the curve" I'm also convinced there are 2 strains of this virus knocking about. A neighbour was moved from a local hospital to beaumount a few weeks back to be prepared for a triple bypass in the mater. She's also diabetic and has a large hernia. She was put in a ward with other patients who subsequently were tested positive for covid-19. Last Thursday she herself tested positive. 9 days later she is still fine with only mild symptons. Now riddle me that.

Flatten the curve is related to healthcare ability to deal with the virus.

easypazz · 04-04-2020 06:16PM

flazio wrote: »

I presume that there aren't any businesses with refrigerated vans lying around that Tesco and the likes could use to up delivery capacity?

I doubt Tesco, or anybody else, is interested in increasing delivery capacity.

It costs about €5 for a home, delivery, probably takes an hour to pick and deliver it so in wages alone it costs them money.

josip · 04-04-2020 06:16PM

Stheno wrote: »

The cumulative figure yesterday was 148

That was the day before, yesterday was 156 I thought?

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0403/1128379-irish-daily-figures/

YFlyer · 04-04-2020 06:17PM

bekker wrote: »

If there is insufficient viral shedding at the time of the test the result cannot be 'Positive' hence 'Not Positive', when shedding increases sufficiently a later test from the same individual will be 'Positive'.

I believe that those with Asymptomatic infections will never shed sufficiently to register a 'Positive', the infection can only be detected by blood test >14 days after initial infection.

Thanks.

The test is virus specific?

Another coronavirus such as the common cold wouldn't give a positive reading?

Lashes28 · 04-04-2020 06:19PM

Antares35 wrote: »

It seems that most people are obeying the restrictions. Where we live, we would normally have a lot of day trippers the weekend and bank holidays especially. The weekend just before they announced the current restrictions was absolute bedlam, it was like the entire city came to the country.

This weekend, that number is way down. There are a few non locals around, so you just know they are more than 2km from home, but from what I have seen here, it looks like around 70% compliance (for those who would normally be here).

Since supermarkets are supposed to be real "hot spots" for infection, wouldn't it be great if there was a way to increase the number of delivery slots? This might persuade people to stay at home more. I could see that having a really beneficial impact.

In terms of restrictions, it will be interesting to see how far they can "push it".

Taxi men surely aren't doing as much business? Not sure why the supermarket cant pick an order and put it into the boot of the car for delivery? Customer takes order from boot taxi man doesn't leave the car. Set up a taxi rank outside the door and have streams of orders going out all day?

Danzy · 04-04-2020 06:19PM

YFlyer wrote: »

Thanks.

The test is virus specific?

Another coronavirus such as the common cold wouldn't give a positive reading?

No, it is specific to this strain.

Achasanai · 04-04-2020 06:19PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

I think the virus was released on purpose. The lying CCP has said it came from a wet market in Wuhan (easy to believe). There's a bio lab a couple of meters from the market the virus was meant to have come from.

They should be fcuked over and held accountable.

Fairly stupid of them to have unleashed it on their own population first and give us a heads up a few months in advance.

Princess Calla · 04-04-2020 06:19PM

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Other way round. BCG was one I got in primary school. Rubella as a baby - the MMR vaccine.

No bcg is given as a baby, the supply ran out from April 2015 the decision was made that we no longer needed the vaccination. It is now off the immunisation schedule.

Your bcg is the triangle scaring on your arm. No children under 5 have this now. MMR is still given all injections go into the child's thigh., they also get the "6 in 1" and rotavirus which is given as drops.

We as children would also have received the polio vaccination along with the sugar cube in primary school. I think in one of the junior classes. Then the girls would receive a booster rubella at around 12, so 6th class.

PmMeUrDogs · 04-04-2020 06:20PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

What are doctor certs saying? For example if someone in their 80s with a history of weak heart complications gets a bug and it finishes them off do they test for Covid 19 and if it's a positive is that considered the cause of death?

A family member has passed from it, and essentially yes.

They initially thought cause of death was a heart problem as he was elderly with a heart condition. Post mortem revealed it was the virus which caused it, he had a mild cold essentially. His cause of death is the virus apparently.

Gael23 · 04-04-2020 06:20PM

What are the stats on ICU admissions today?

Duke of Url · 04-04-2020 06:20PM

Did the say how many covid patients are currently as in today in ICU?

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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) Read OP