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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP**

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  • #9272
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,189 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    The figures always seem suspiciously a bit lower than you might have expected on Saturdays.


  • #9273
    Bushmaster64
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52 ✭✭Bushmaster64


    Over a thousand dead in France today.


  • #9274
    Quantum Erasure
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,639 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    just noticed on worldometers, USA has gone over 300,000 confirmed cases. probably a couple days away from 10,000 deaths


  • #9275
    deisedevil
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,252 ✭✭✭deisedevil


    2nd Row Donkey wrote: »
    Can I ask a question.

    I am currently in isolation with Covid symptoms so apologises if this has been asked multiply times before but I have barely the energy to lift my phone let alone read through endless threads on vivid.


    My question is this - if only a small percentage been tested are getting a positive result (I think it's 26% approx but that's not too important) - what is wrong with the other 75 % who are negative.

    Is there something else going around or what, theese people obviously had severe enough symptoms to contact their gp and warrent a visit to a test centre or admittance to hospital so whats the deal there.

    Accounting for some hypercondra who demanded testing and some front line workers in health care and the gardai who may have been tested as a precaution what's the deal with the rest of them.

    I know two people who were rushed to hospital and kept in for 5-6 days and then released after a negative result.


    I'm not suggesting there's some sort of conspiracy but as I've laid in bed these last 5 days and watched sky news, cnn and bbc news I haven't seen this discussed

    Maybe there are issues with the testing. And this could account for the huge rise in deaths in some areas, such as Bergamo, where thousands of extra deaths have not been diagnosed as covid-19. No idea really but surely a likely scenario would be that some of the "not detected" results are not accurate.


  • #9276
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    https://youtu.be/AiwrtgWQeDc


    This video is a long one. It's about 45 minutes long. It goes through some breathing exercises to maximize oxygen in the blood or what not. There's a piece about mouth breathing at night time and during the days too. I found it interesting anyways.


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  • #9277
    YFlyer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    ben.schlomo wrote: »
    No because I don't interact with idiots if I can help it. Just stay away from social media if it's causing you issues.

    Not interacting with them when they put up such messages.

    It's like a cytokine storm.


  • #9278
    gamerguy1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 100 ✭✭gamerguy1


    lastusername wrote: »
    It might sound surprising but you being worried has nothing to do with the Coronavirus.

    You just have some frantic and worried thinking right now, which will pass, as it always does. And then you'll feel less worried, or not at all.

    So true. Thanks


  • #9279
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    josip wrote: »
    Where can you see the number currently in ICU?
    I can only see 158 admitted to ICU from that tweet and I thought that the number of admissions for 24 hours previously was 156.

    The cumulative figure yesterday was 148


  • #9280
    Cork Boy 53
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    harr wrote: »
    And did you know according to WhatsApp the Coronavirus was invented so the guberments could keep people inside as the asteroid is likely to hit us ...
    :D :rolleyes:

    Something similar to this was posted in the Conspiracy Theories forum on this site. Seems plausible.:rolleyes:


  • #9281
    Danzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,066 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    deisedevil wrote: »
    Maybe there are issues with the testing. And this could account for the huge rise in deaths in some areas, such as Bergamo, where thousands of extra deaths have not been diagnosed as covid-19. No idea really but surely a likely scenario would be that some of the "not detected" results are not accurate.

    In places like Bergamo the volume of dead meant they couldn't even keep up with them, never mind test or autopsy corpses.


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  • #9282
    growleaves
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,001 ✭✭✭growleaves


    Hm perhaps the worry over the destruction of European economies should go in the 'Things That Trivially Annoy You' thread? Judging by the way its discussed on here.


  • #9283
    YFlyer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    I think the virus was released on purpose. The lying CCP has said it came from a wet market in Wuhan (easy to believe). There's a bio lab a couple of meters from the market the virus was meant to have come from.

    They should be fcuked over and held accountable.

    Any evidences for your theory?


  • #9284
    ben.schlomo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,616 ✭✭✭✭ben.schlomo


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    I think the virus was released on purpose. The lying CCP has said it came from a wet market in Wuhan (easy to believe). There's a bio lab a couple of meters from the market the virus was meant to have come from.

    They should be fcuked over and held accountable.

    You should head out there and sort them out, do ensure to bring your own tinfoil hat though, just so they don't get you with any of their new brainwave viruses.


  • #9285
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,178 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    2nd Row Donkey wrote: »
    Can I ask a question.

    I am currently in isolation with Covid symptoms so apologises if this has been asked multiply times before but I have barely the energy to lift my phone let alone read through endless threads on vivid.


    My question is this - if only a small percentage been tested are getting a positive result (I think it's 26% approx but that's not too important) - what is wrong with the other 75 % who are negative.

    Is there something else going around or what, theese people obviously had severe enough symptoms to contact their gp and warrent a visit to a test centre or admittance to hospital so whats the deal there.

    Accounting for some hypercondra who demanded testing and some front line workers in health care and the gardai who may have been tested as a precaution what's the deal with the rest of them.

    I know two people who were rushed to hospital and kept in for 5-6 days and then released after a negative result.


    I'm not suggesting there's some sort of conspiracy but as I've laid in bed these last 5 days and watched sky news, cnn and bbc news I haven't seen this discussed

    I've seen mention of another flu also around or bad hayfever allergies

    If you can call your GP
    https://forumofgames.com/




  • #9286
    bekker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    YFlyer wrote: »
    Would that still be classed as a false negative?
    If there is insufficient viral shedding at the time of the test the result cannot be 'Positive' hence 'Not Positive', when shedding increases sufficiently a later test from the same individual will be 'Positive'.

    I believe that those with Asymptomatic infections will never shed sufficiently to register a 'Positive', the infection can only be detected by blood test >14 days after initial infection.


  • #9287
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    Dank Janniels wrote: »
    Local supermarket only letting 10 people in at a time. Was thinking if there was maybe a system where the customers could give the staff a list +they do they shopping insted then collect at the door or another exit. They wouldnt have to be running all around the aisles either if they organise the storerooms abit.

    Set up a phone in and collect at a certain time. Hire a few extra people to work over night to put together items. Lot of places have huge carparks and could put them in some Marquee Tents and wheel it out to the person when they come during the day.


  • #9288
    UrbanFret
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭UrbanFret


    I'm beginning to wonder is there even such a thing as "flattening the curve" I'm also convinced there are 2 strains of this virus knocking about. A neighbour was moved from a local hospital to beaumount a few weeks back to be prepared for a triple bypass in the mater. She's also diabetic and has a large hernia. She was put in a ward with other patients who subsequently were tested positive for covid-19. Last Thursday she herself tested positive. 9 days later she is still fine with only mild symptons. Now riddle me that.


  • #9289
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,139 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Bushmaster64 wrote: »
    Over a thousand dead in France today.

    To put into perspective, that equates to about 71 people here dead in terms of population difference.


  • #9290
    Looney1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 122 ✭✭Looney1


    Definite green shoots appearing in Italy and France. The problem I have though is that these shoots are a result of a near complete lockdown. What happens when we start moving again????


  • #9291
    Danzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,066 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    UrbanFret wrote: »
    I'm beginning to wonder is there even such a thing as "flattening the curve" I'm also convinced there are 2 strains of this virus knocking about. A neighbour was moved from a local hospital to beaumount a few weeks back to be prepared for a triple bypass in the mater. She's also diabetic and has a large hernia. She was put in a ward with other patients who subsequently were tested positive for covid-19. Last Thursday she herself tested positive. 9 days later she is still fine with only mild symptons. Now riddle me that.

    Nothing surprising or new to be honest in that.

    Falls in line with others experiences.


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  • #9292
    Danzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,066 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Looney1 wrote: »
    Definite green shoots appearing in Italy and France. The problem I have though is that these shoots are a result of a near complete lockdown. What happens when we start moving again????

    We'll all be wearing masks, washing hands, undergoing regular testing, home test kits everywhere, 5 min tests for passengers flying in and out etc etc.


  • #9293
    ArchXStanton
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,912 ✭✭✭ArchXStanton


    Looney1 wrote: »
    Definite green shoots appearing in Italy and France. The problem I have though is that these shoots are a result of a near complete lockdown. What happens when we start moving again????

    How's Italy figures? Haven't looked at them in a while


  • #9294
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,139 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Danzy wrote: »
    We'll all be wearing masks, washing hands, undergoing regular testing, home test kits everywhere, 5 min tests for passengers flying in and out etc etc.

    Most people would have no issues with this if restrictions were relaxed slowly.


  • #9295
    Danzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,066 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    ArchXStanton wrote: »
    How's Italy figures? Haven't looked at them in a while

    Flat top mountain and still moving, hopefully to a descent at some stage.


  • #9296
    Danzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,066 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Most people would have no issues with this if restrictions were relaxed slowly.

    It would be an inconvenience but we'd all be greatful.


  • #9297
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,394 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    Danzy wrote: »
    Flat top mountain and still moving, hopefully to a descent at some stage.

    Plateau!


  • #9298
    YFlyer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    UrbanFret wrote: »
    I'm beginning to wonder is there even such a thing as "flattening the curve" I'm also convinced there are 2 strains of this virus knocking about. A neighbour was moved from a local hospital to beaumount a few weeks back to be prepared for a triple bypass in the mater. She's also diabetic and has a large hernia. She was put in a ward with other patients who subsequently were tested positive for covid-19. Last Thursday she herself tested positive. 9 days later she is still fine with only mild symptons. Now riddle me that.

    Flatten the curve is related to healthcare ability to deal with the virus.


  • #9299
    easypazz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,346 ✭✭✭easypazz


    flazio wrote: »
    I presume that there aren't any businesses with refrigerated vans lying around that Tesco and the likes could use to up delivery capacity?

    I doubt Tesco, or anybody else, is interested in increasing delivery capacity.

    It costs about €5 for a home, delivery, probably takes an hour to pick and deliver it so in wages alone it costs them money.


  • #9300
    josip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,783 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Stheno wrote: »
    The cumulative figure yesterday was 148


    That was the day before, yesterday was 156 I thought?


    https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0403/1128379-irish-daily-figures/


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  • #9301
    YFlyer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    bekker wrote: »
    If there is insufficient viral shedding at the time of the test the result cannot be 'Positive' hence 'Not Positive', when shedding increases sufficiently a later test from the same individual will be 'Positive'.

    I believe that those with Asymptomatic infections will never shed sufficiently to register a 'Positive', the infection can only be detected by blood test >14 days after initial infection.

    Thanks.

    The test is virus specific?

    Another coronavirus such as the common cold wouldn't give a positive reading?


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