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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Don’t tell me we are back to people thinking the cumulative numbers are what’s in ICU at this time.
    Let it go, let it goooooo!:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    citysights wrote: »
    Maybe google some virologists see what their expert views are, they will probably differ as well.So much information flying around.
    Epidemiologists for spread, counter measures etc, virologists for nature of virus and possible methods of attacking it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    bilston wrote: »
    China absolutely has responsibility if it was lying about the extent of the virus.

    That doesn't mean European governments haven't made mistakes. But deliberately lying about the extent of the virus and arresting people who were trying to warn the world is nothing short of an international scandal.


    Maybe the Chinese were lying maybe the European governments were lying, maybe both made mistakes. It is something that no one seems to have handled perfectly , when does an omission become a lie?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 871 ✭✭✭voluntary


    All EU countries knew in very early January that the virus is going to spread across the world, yet nearly no country have started preparing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    voluntary wrote: »
    All EU countries knew in very early January that the virus is going to spread across the world, yet nearly no country have started preparing.

    Germany prepared well

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 204 ✭✭Sean 18


    voluntary wrote: »
    All EU countries knew in very early January that the virus is going to spread across the world, yet nearly no country have started preparing.

    Yes it used be on rte news for 20 seconds so many people died in China today forget about it it won't spread anywhere else


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,711 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    .

    So the government or their advisers have fecked up in some areas- not shutting down air travel sooner, , but we are in a far better position than Spain, Italy and the UK in terms of mortality rate per head of population due to the fact we implemented restrictions sooner. That fact can't be denied.

    Population size and density is incomparable with Ireland. Have you been to Madrid?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    NIMAN wrote: »
    So the majority of people being admitted to ICU are under 65

    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0404/1128465-covid19-coronavirus-tracker/

    Yet we are told the average age of those dying is 82.

    So are old people not even getting to ICU?

    Edit: the post below kinda asks the same question.

    Glad someone is reading. I always say if you want your news three days earlier come to boards.ie

    3 days ago
    Yeah shows how important physical distancing is within the community. Again credit where it is due offers much more insight to what is going on. Fair play to "EPI Team" in hse.

    One thing from that report. Of the deaths thus far 90% of deaths have been in 65+.

    However ICU admissions much less skewed to older ages so any age can end up there. Hopefully they all recover.

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    Well worth a read for everyone on here.

    https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/casesinireland/COVID-19%20Epidemiology%20report%20for%20NPHET%2031.03.2020v1-%20website%20version.pdf


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,711 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    What were Sweden doing...something similar to Germany in how deaths were recorded?

    They are only recording people who die from Covid with no underlying health issues.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 209 ✭✭lordlame


    voluntary wrote: »
    All EU countries knew in very early January that the virus is going to spread across the world, yet nearly no country have started preparing.

    Ssssh ... don’t go against the xenophobia in here by talking sense :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Sean 18 wrote: »
    Yes it used be on rte news for 20 seconds so many people died in China today forget about it it won't spread anywhere else
    Well SARS and MERS stayed very far away and this was "just a flu'" to start with, so not really a surprise how we collectively responded initially. We'll know for the next one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 871 ✭✭✭voluntary


    Sean 18 wrote: »
    Yes it used be on rte news for 20 seconds so many people died in China today forget about it it won't spread anywhere else

    Governments knew. There were official NATO warnings sent early January, maybe Ireland is not a NATO member, but it doesn't really matter. All Countries knew this thing is coming and it's coming with heavy weapons.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,018 ✭✭✭kingshankly


    voluntary wrote: »
    All EU countries knew in very early January that the virus is going to spread across the world, yet nearly no country have started preparing.

    There were dozens of school trips in northern Italy while the virus was rampant


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    Germany prepared well

    Germany has one of the best healthcare systems in the world. Not just that, they have vast resources and testing capacity that few countries can match. They also very quickly stopped medical resources leaving the country as Switzerland found out. I think it’s very difficult to work out how any country is handling this in comparison to others.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 204 ✭✭Sean 18


    I wonder if the weather is fine in June could they do the state exams out in the open? maybe that's the only way they will probably go ahead


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,617 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    cloudatlas wrote: »
    Population size and density is incomparable with Ireland. Have you been to Madrid?



    Yes, we do have a major advantage in that regard, which demonstrates how castastrophic it was for the Uk to not introduce strict lockdown measure sooner in London to slow the spread of the virus. We are now seeing the dire consequences of that ditherting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 306 ✭✭Just Saying


    cloudatlas wrote: »
    They are only recording people who die ftrom Covid with no underlying health issues.

    I thought the WHO were issuing guidelines on what way deaths should be recorded?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,348 ✭✭✭✭ricero


    xtal191 wrote: »

    Shes ****ing unbearable


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,711 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    xtal191 wrote: »

    She’s right areas of high unemployment less access to health insurance and health care.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,563 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Sean 18 wrote: »
    I wonder if the weather is fine in June could they do the state exams out in the open? maybe that's the only way they will probably go ahead

    Yes...because our weather is so predictable...

    Four poxy seasons in one hour, let alone one day!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 204 ✭✭Sean 18


    There were dozens of school trips in northern Italy while the virus was rampant

    Yes that was just pure stupidity and then letting in all the Italians a month ago from an epicentre of a pandemic we've a great government!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭Naggdefy


    Sean 18 wrote: »
    I wonder if the weather is fine in June could they do the state exams out in the open? maybe that's the only way they will probably go ahead

    I'd find that hard. The slightest breeze would blow your papers around and the brightness from direct sunlight. Unless some sort of tent structure?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    cloudatlas wrote: »
    She’s right areas of high unemployment less access to health insurance and health care.
    It's politicking at the worst possible time and really not helpful to anyone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,066 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    ricero wrote: »
    Shes ****ing unbearable

    Desperate scut, thrives on division and fostering it all to get the likes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Seems US has taken goods in a third party country on grounds they are US property because they are manufactured by a us company (3m). Wonder what possible consequences if they deploy similar measures.

    Our gov will defo appease them. Better get orders in now.

    Uk might start taking paracetamol made in Waterford.
    We all know about the ventilators made here.


    https://twitter.com/drericding/status/1246399767174950917?s=21


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 204 ✭✭Sean 18


    Naggdefy wrote: »
    I'd find that hard. The slightest breeze would blow your papers around and the brightness from direct sunlight. Unless some sort of tent structure?

    I wonder what will happen when the schools open in September must they all repeat a year even in primary school they will have to make their communion next year I can't see them going ahead this year


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    I hear a lot of guys saying that they hate the word "moist", with me it's "cluster" as in a cluster of haemorrhoids or genital warts, just saying, I'm hearing it a lot the last few weeks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 204 ✭✭Sean 18


    walshb wrote: »
    Yes...because our weather is so predictable...

    Four poxy seasons in one hour, let alone one day!!

    That's the only time of year we get good weather when the exams are on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,806 ✭✭✭An Ciarraioch




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Seamai wrote: »
    I hear a lot of guys saying that they hate the word "moist", with me it's "cluster" as in a cluster of haemorrhoids or genital warts, just saying, I'm hearing it a lot the last few weeks.
    Just one of the many words and expressions we would like to see forgotten!


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