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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP**

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  • #8672
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    RandomName2 wrote: »
    Good God get a load of this idiot. I can't believe that people actually listen to so-called experts like these. There's no excuse for not knowing something when you can literally google it and get the information in the first couple of results. :mad:


    utter moron. if there's one good thing to come out of this thing it's that a LOT of qualified medical people are being shown up as complete idiots. there tends to be a belief that just cause you're a doctor you are some kind of infallible mega brain. honestly there are better informed people on this thread than some nurses and one doctor i personally know.


  • #8673
    Sittingpretty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,872 ✭✭✭Sittingpretty


    froog wrote: »
    utter moron. if there's one good thing to come out of this thing it's that a LOT of qualified medical people are being shown up as complete idiots. there tends to be a belief that just cause you're a doctor you are some kind of infallible mega brain. honestly there are better informed people on this thread than some nurses and one doctor i personally know.

    That compilation makes him look like he bought his medical doctorate at his local Walmart.


  • #8674
    Bushmaster64
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52 ✭✭Bushmaster64


    There are some countries massaging their figures. And not just 3rd world despotic ones. Obviously China and Iran are lying.

    Watch out for Sweden and Japan. Maybe even Germany. Both Sweden and Germany have proven to have a press that will mislead the public at the government's behest.

    Deaths rates in UK, Italy and Spain higher than published but that's more to do with not having the resources to accurately track deaths outside of hospitals.

    So comparing country by country is not that simple because data isn't reliable.


  • #8675
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 78,513 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    tobefrank321 wrote: »
    Leo told us there'd be 15,000 cases 3 weeks ago.
    Do you have any idea how many "cases" we do have?

    The current "results" are for tests done a few days ago, and swabs taken a few days before that, for people who had waited a few days to get their swabs taken

    We are probably now "recording" figures from 10+ days ago, and only those who warranted testing

    I would guess we are at a few multiples of 15,000 at this stage - but it can only be a finger in the air job because we simply do not know how many in Ireland are (or indeed have been) infected


  • #8676
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,957 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    Beasty wrote: »
    Do you have any idea how many "cases" we do have?

    The current "results" are for tests done a few days ago, and swabs taken a few days before that, for people who had waited a few days to get their swabs taken

    We are probably now "recording" figures from 10+ days ago, and only those who warranted testing

    I would guess we are at a few multiples of 15,000 at this stage - but it can only be a finger in the air job because we simply do not know how many in Ireland are (or indeed have been) infected

    Didn't Simon coveney say we were doing close to 5k tests a day but at the press conference recently it was announced we were doing 1500


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  • #8677
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Didn't Simon coveney say we were doing close to 5k tests a day but at the press conference recently it was announced we were doing 1500

    GPs are forwarding 3000 a day for testing according to RTE and we have only been testing 1500 a day. so there's massive backlog. not to mention the cluster**** at the start, the most important time where everyone in the country with a sniffle was looking for a test.

    in short, we have no idea whatsoever the rate of infection in this country and it is likely 10 times the reported figure. the only accurate figure is the death rate and ICU figures so people should focus on those.


  • #8678
    Pseudonym121
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 309 ✭✭Pseudonym121


    Itsalladdingup wrote: »
    That’s exactly my thinking when it comes to takeaways. Pizza etc will be grand once it’s cooked and hot, but if someone coughs on the box as theyre closing it .....

    Simple fix. I’ve gotten a couple of takeaways over the past six weeks and I just made sure to treat the food as infected and microwaved it to piping hot again after delivery.

    Microwaving to piping hot will break the rna bonds and make it safe to eat even if someone DID cough directly onto the food just before closing the packaging.

    Simples.


  • #8679
    Roger_007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,886 ✭✭✭✭Roger_007


    Bushmaster64 wrote: »
    There are some countries massaging their figures. And not just 3rd world despotic ones. Obviously China and Iran are lying.

    Watch out for Sweden and Japan. Maybe even Germany. Both Sweden and Germany have proven to have a press that will mislead the public at the government's behest.

    Deaths rates in UK, Italy and Spain higher than published but that's more to do with not having the resources to accurately track deaths outside of hospitals.

    So comparing country by country is not that simple because data isn't reliable.
    Maybe in some cases the figures are revealing who is managing the crisis better and who isn’t ...........just maybe?


  • #8680
    tobefrank321
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,621 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    Beasty wrote: »
    Do you have any idea how many "cases" we do have?

    The current "results" are for tests done a few days ago, and swabs taken a few days before that, for people who had waited a few days to get their swabs taken

    We are probably now "recording" figures from 10+ days ago, and only those who warranted testing

    I would guess we are at a few multiples of 15,000 at this stage - but it can only be a finger in the air job because we simply do not know how many in Ireland are (or indeed have been) infected

    Leo knew there could be a high amount of cases yet only now we are scrambling for PPE. He had the foresight to see we might have a high number of cases. You'd think at that point the orders for PPE would go in?

    As for real number of cases, somewhere between 10-20,000 is my guess. A lot of people got or will get this but it will be mild or asymptomatic and won't ever be tested.


  • #8681
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    Pseudonym121 wrote: »
    Simple fix. I’ve gotten a couple of takeaways over the past six weeks and I just made sure to treat the food as infected and microwaved it to piping hot again after delivery.

    Microwaving to piping hot will break the rna hydroxyl bonds and make it safe to eat even if someone DID cough directly onto the food just before closing the packaging.

    Simples.

    ah yes, those pesky RNA Hydroxyl bonds, i hate them in my soup.


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  • #8682
    threeball
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,807 ✭✭✭threeball


    Stheno wrote: »
    Rubella was given in school when you were 12/13

    BCG was a baby/ toddler vaccine iirc

    I have the mark's but dont remember getting it

    Bcg was given in schools around 3rd or 4th class in the 80s. I remember queuing up to get it in the hall and having the 3 little scars on my shoulder for years.


  • #8683
    rusty the athlete
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 130 ✭✭rusty the athlete


    Sittingpretty wrote: »
    That compilation makes him look like he bought his medical doctorate at his local Walmart.


    Well, if he is an actual MD then god help any patients that he 'treats' and he should be immediately struck off. But 'Doctor' can be anyone that has a Phd in whatever discipline you choose. I doubt if this cretin knows one end of a syringe from the other.


  • #8684
    shocksy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,610 ✭✭✭shocksy


    Spain reports 809 new deaths and 7,026 new cases.


  • #8685
    Shelga
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,074 ✭✭✭Shelga


    Sorry if it’s already been mentioned, I only read the last 10 pages, but has anyone else heard that apparently Matt Damon is stuck in Dublin and has been spotted jogging on Killiney Hill?

    I only mention it because it seems improbable that he has absolutely no way to get back to America, but also, a photo apparently taken on Wednesday was posted on Twitter, with him with his arm around some fan in Dalkey?? Why are both of them being so irresponsible?

    Makes me think it’s all a load of rubbish, and this woman is posting a photo that was actually taken a month ago.


  • #8686
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Beasty wrote: »
    Do you have any idea how many "cases" we do have?

    The current "results" are for tests done a few days ago, and swabs taken a few days before that, for people who had waited a few days to get their swabs taken

    We are probably now "recording" figures from 10+ days ago, and only those who warranted testing

    I would guess we are at a few multiples of 15,000 at this stage - but it can only be a finger in the air job because we simply do not know how many in Ireland are (or indeed have been) infected

    That's a good point. I think the lag effect is absent in most assessments of the situation. One way of trying to get some number is to look at the death rate and work backwards. This is looking at the numbers. Before doing so worth noting The percentage of people who die is small. Every death is terrible.
    • mean time of symptoms to death is ~20 in cases that succumb.
    • we have officially had 120 deaths to date. No reason to question this.
    • so if the death rate is at 1%. I'd estimate this as health system not overwhelmed.
    • Based on the above you can say that 20 days ago there were 120 X 100 cases = 12000

    You then have to apply finger in air methodology to estimate current state regarding growth / control etc.

    This is a conservative estimate. If the death rate is higher, then the number of cases is lower. If however you are an optimist and the death rate is lower, then the number of infected is higher.

    Pick your poison. Of course large degree of uncertainty.


  • #8687
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,473 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Spain, Italy, UK all seem to consistently report 700 or 800 deaths.

    I reckon its a lot more but they haven't the meams to count for more deaths.


  • #8688
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,424 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Shelga wrote: »
    Sorry if it’s already been mentioned, I only read the last 10 pages, but has anyone else heard that apparently Matt Damon is stuck in Dublin and has been spotted jogging on Killiney Hill?

    I only mention it because it seems improbable that he has absolutely no way to get back to America, but also, a photo apparently taken on Wednesday was posted on Twitter, with him with his arm around some fan in Dalkey?? Why are both of them being so irresponsible?

    Makes me think it’s all a load of rubbish, and this woman is posting a photo that was actually taken a month ago.
    shrug who knows

    https://extra.ie/2020/04/02/entertainment/celebrity/matt-damon-covid

    so the hollywood crowd is hanging here you better get out your greta banners!


  • #8689
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Pseudonym121 wrote: »
    Simple fix. I’ve gotten a couple of takeaways over the past six weeks and I just made sure to treat the food as infected and microwaved it to piping hot again after delivery.

    Microwaving to piping hot will break the rna hydroxyl bonds and make it safe to eat even if someone DID cough directly onto the food just before closing the packaging.

    Simples.

    Best news I've heard all day. They don't call it nuking for nothing I guess!


  • #8690
    rusty the athlete
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 130 ✭✭rusty the athlete


    Bushmaster64 wrote: »
    Both Sweden and Germany have proven to have a press that will mislead the public at the government's behest.


    So what Swedish newspapers do you read on a regular basis? None I'm guessing which makes your post utter BS. My daily read is the 'Svenska Dagbladet' which if you read you would find is extremely critical of government policy.


  • #8691
    tobefrank321
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,621 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    Bushmaster64 wrote: »
    There are some countries massaging their figures. And not just 3rd world despotic ones. Obviously China and Iran are lying.

    Watch out for Sweden and Japan. Maybe even Germany. Both Sweden and Germany have proven to have a press that will mislead the public at the government's behest.

    Deaths rates in UK, Italy and Spain higher than published but that's more to do with not having the resources to accurately track deaths outside of hospitals.

    So comparing country by country is not that simple because data isn't reliable.

    Ironically the US will probably have more accurate figures than most given how its individual states doing the counting and its not in their interests to under report if they want federal assistance.


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  • #8692
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    threeball wrote: »
    Bcg was given in schools around 3rd or 4th class in the 80s. I remember queuing up to get it in the hall and having the 3 little scars on my shoulder for years.

    I was 10 when I was in 3rd class in the 90s. It's been over 25 years since then. Guess im no longer immune.


  • #8693
    Naggdefy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭Naggdefy


    A lot of tension in here :)



  • #8694
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Pseudonym121 wrote: »
    Simple fix. I’ve gotten a couple of takeaways over the past six weeks and I just made sure to treat the food as infected and microwaved it to piping hot again after delivery.

    Microwaving to piping hot will break the rna bonds and make it safe to eat even if someone DID cough directly onto the food just before closing the packaging.

    Simples.

    I would love a takeaway for a treat. But I'm slightly overweight and probably not the best idea to eat crap food now.


  • #8695
    threeball
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,807 ✭✭✭threeball


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    shrug who knows

    https://extra.ie/2020/04/02/entertainment/celebrity/matt-damon-covid

    so the hollywood crowd is hanging here you better get out your greta banners!

    Smart enough to stay here rather going back to the sh1tshow across the pond.

    How the governers of 5 states can ignore calls to introduce measures in their states when they've had months to see whats going on everywhere else is a remarkable indictment of their intelligence.


  • #8696
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Bushmaster64 wrote: »
    There are some countries massaging their figures. And not just 3rd world despotic ones. Obviously China and Iran are lying.

    Watch out for Sweden and Japan. Maybe even Germany. Both Sweden and Germany have proven to have a press that will mislead the public at the government's behest.

    Deaths rates in UK, Italy and Spain higher than published but that's more to do with not having the resources to accurately track deaths outside of hospitals.

    So comparing country by country is not that simple because data isn't reliable.

    You left out Ireland. You do know you can lie by omission?

    "Lying by omission, also known as a continuing misrepresentation or quote mining, occurs when an important fact is left out in order to foster a misconception. Lying by omission includes the failure to correct pre-existing misconceptions."

    Few examples.
    • We are increasing our testing capacity by X but leaving out the fact you have no way to process said tests.
    • All of our front line staff have PPE while leaving out the fact that it is not adequate to protect against this virus.


    I could go on.....


  • #8697
    GM228
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,917 ✭✭✭GM228


    Ireland Reported Coronavirus Statistics - Day 35 - Friday 03/04/2020

    Slightly different format than previously with day 1 and 3, 7 and 10 day averages also for each date now in the main box to give a better idea of the new cases and new case reporting trends.

    Let me know of anything else I can lump into the statistics table.

    DAY | DATE | Cases | New Cases | Total Cases | Case Increase | Daily Reporting Increase | Deaths | Mortality % | Hospital | Hospital % | ICU | ICU % | Recovered | Recovery % | Population % | Active Cases | ▲Day 1 | ▲10 Days | ▲7 days | ▲3 Days | ■ Day 1 | ■ 10 Days | ■ 7 Days | ■ 3 days
    1 | 29/02/2020 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0.00% | 0.00% | 0 | N/A | NR | NR | NR | NR | NR | NR | 0.000% | 1 | 0.00% | N/A | N/A | N/A | 0.00% | N/A | N/A | N/A
    2 | 01/03/2020 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0.00% | 0.00% | 0 | N/A | NR | NR | NR | NR | NR | NR | 0.000% | 1 | 0.00% | N/A | N/A | N/A | 0.00% | N/A | N/A | N/A
    3 | 02/03/2020 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0.00% | 0.00% | 0 | N/A | NR | NR | NR | NR | NR | NR | 0.000% | 1 | 0.00% | N/A | N/A | 0.00% | 0.00% | N/A | N/A | 0.00%
    4 | 03/03/2020 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 100.00% | 0.00% | 0 | N/A | NR | NR | NR | NR | NR | NR | 0.000% | 2 | 25.00% | N/A | N/A | 33.33% | 0.00% | N/A | N/A | 0.00%
    5 | 04/03/2020 | 2 | 4 | 6 | 200.00% | 300.00% | 0 | N/A | NR | NR | NR | NR | NR | NR | 0.000% | 6 | 60.00% | N/A | N/A | 100.00% | 60.00% | N/A | N/A | 100.00%
    6 | 05/03/2020 | 6 | 7 | 13 | 116.67% | 75.00% | 0 | N/A | NR | NR | NR | NR | NR | NR | 0.000% | 13 | 69.44% | N/A | N/A | 138.89% | 62.50% | N/A | N/A | 125.00%
    7 | 06/03/2020 | 13 | 5 | 18 | 38.46% | -28.57% | 0 | N/A | NR | NR | NR | NR | NR | NR | 0.000% | 18 | 65.02% | N/A | 65.02% | 118.38% | 49.49% | N/A | 49.49% | 115.48%
    8 | 07/03/2020 | 18 | 1 | 19 | 5.56% | -80.00% | 0 | N/A | NR | NR | NR | NR | NR | NR | 0.000% | 19 | 57.59% | N/A | 65.81% | 53.56% | 33.30% | N/A | 38.06% | -11.19%
    9 | 08/03/2020 | 19 | 2 | 21 | 10.53% | 100.00% | 0 | N/A | NR | NR | NR | NR | NR | NR | 0.000% | 21 | 52.36% | N/A | 67.32% | 18.18% | 40.71% | N/A | 52.35% | -2.86%
    10 | 09/03/2020 | 21 | 3 | 24 | 14.29% | 50.00% | 0 | N/A | NR | NR | NR | NR | NR | NR | 0.000% | 24 | 48.55% | 48.55% | 69.36% | 10.12% | 41.64% | 41.64% | 59.49% | 23.33%
    11 | 10/03/2020 | 24 | 10 | 34 | 41.67% | 233.33% | 0 | N/A | NR | NR | NR | NR | NR | NR | 0.001% | 34 | 47.92% | 52.72% | 61.02% | 22.16% | 59.07% | 64.98% | 92.82% | 127.78%
    12 | 11/03/2020 | 34 | 9 | 43 | 26.47% | -10.00% | 1 | 2.33% | NR | NR | NR | NR | NR | NR | 0.001% | 42 | 46.14% | 55.36% | 36.23% | 27.47% | 53.31% | 63.98% | 48.54% | 91.11%
    13 | 12/03/2020 | 43 | 27 | 70 | 62.79% | 200.00% | 1 | 1.43% | NR | NR | NR | NR | NR | NR | 0.001% | 69 | 47.42% | 61.64% | 28.54% | 43.64% | 64.60% | 83.98% | 66.39% | 141.11%
    14 | 13/03/2020 | 70 | 20 | 90 | 28.57% | -25.93% | 1 | 1.11% | NR | NR | NR | NR | NR | NR | 0.002% | 89 | 46.07% | 54.50% | 27.12% | 39.28% | 58.13% | 81.38% | 66.77% | 54.69%
    15 | 14/03/2020 | 90 | 39 | 129 | 43.33% | 95.00% | 2 | 1.55% | NR | NR | NR | NR | NR | NR | 0.003% | 127 | 45.89% | 38.83% | 32.52% | 44.90% | 60.59% | 60.88% | 91.77% | 89.69%
    16 | 15/03/2020 | 129 | 40 | 169 | 31.01% | 2.56% | 2 | 1.18% | NR | NR | NR | NR | NR | NR | 0.003% | 167 | 44.96% | 30.27% | 35.45% | 34.30% | 56.96% | 53.64% | 77.85% | 23.88%
    17 | 16/03/2020 | 169 | 54 | 223 | 31.95% | 35.00% | 2 | 0.90% | 84 | 37.7% | 6 | 2.69% | 5 | 2.24% | 0.005% | 216 | 44.19% | 29.62% | 37.97% | 35.43% | 55.67% | 60.00% | 75.71% | 44.19%
    18 | 17/03/2020 | 223 | 69 | 292 | 30.94% | 27.78% | 2 | 0.68% | 108 | 37.0% | 7 | 2.40% | 5 | 1.71% | 0.006% | 285 | 43.46% | 32.15% | 36.44% | 31.30% | 54.12% | 70.77% | 46.35% | 21.78%
    19 | 18/03/2020 | 292 | 74 | 366 | 25.34% | 7.25% | 2 | 0.55% | 140 | 38.3% | 12 | 3.28% | 5 | 1.37% | 0.007% | 359 | 42.50% | 33.64% | 36.28% | 29.41% | 51.65% | 61.50% | 48.81% | 23.34%
    20 | 19/03/2020 | 366 | 191 | 557 | 52.19% | 158.11% | 3 | 0.54% | 173 | 31.1% | 13 | 2.33% | 5 | 0.90% | 0.011% | 549 | 42.99% | 37.43% | 34.76% | 36.16% | 56.98% | 72.31% | 42.82% | 64.38%
    21 | 20/03/2020 | 557 | 126 | 683 | 22.62% | -34.03% | 3 | 0.44% | 211 | 30.9% | 17 | 2.49% | 5 | 0.73% | 0.014% | 675 | 42.02% | 35.52% | 33.91% | 33.38% | 52.64% | 45.57% | 41.67% | 43.77%
    22 | 21/03/2020 | 683 | 102 | 785 | 14.93% | -19.05% | 3 | 0.38% | 239 | 30.4% | 25 | 3.18% | 5 | 0.64% | 0.016% | 777 | 40.79% | 34.37% | 29.86% | 29.91% | 49.38% | 44.67% | 25.37% | 35.01%
    23 | 22/03/2020 | 785 | 121 | 906 | 15.41% | 18.63% | 4 | 0.44% | 277 | 30.6% | 36 | 3.97% | 5 | 0.55% | 0.018% | 897 | 39.68% | 29.63% | 27.63% | 17.66% | 48.05% | 26.53% | 27.67% | -11.48%
    24 | 23/03/2020 | 906 | 219 | 1125 | 24.17% | 80.99% | 6 | 0.53% | 305 | 27.1% | 39 | 3.47% | 5 | 0.44% | 0.023% | 1114 | 39.04% | 29.19% | 26.52% | 18.17% | 49.42% | 37.22% | 34.24% | 26.86%
    25 | 24/03/2020 | 1125 | 204 | 1329 | 18.13% | -6.85% | 7 | 0.53% | 340 | 25.6% | 47 | 3.54% | 5 | 0.38% | 0.027% | 1317 | 38.20% | 26.67% | 24.69% | 19.24% | 47.17% | 27.04% | 29.29% | 30.92%
    26 | 25/03/2020 | 1329 | 235 | 1564 | 17.68% | 15.20% | 9 | 0.58% | 419 | 26.8% | 59 | 3.77% | 5 | 0.32% | 0.032% | 1550 | 37.41% | 25.34% | 23.59% | 20.00% | 45.94% | 28.30% | 30.43% | 29.78%
    27 | 26/03/2020 | 1564 | 255 | 1819 | 16.30% | 8.51% | 19 | 1.04% | 489 | 26.9% | 67 | 3.68% | 5 | 0.27% | 0.037% | 1795 | 36.63% | 23.77% | 18.47% | 17.37% | 44.55% | 25.65% | 9.06% | 5.62%
    28 | 27/03/2020 | 1819 | 302 | 2121 | 16.60% | 18.43% | 22 | 1.04% | 564 | 26.6% | 77 | 3.63% | 5 | 0.24% | 0.043% | 2094 | 35.92% | 22.34% | 17.61% | 16.86% | 43.62% | 24.72% | 16.55% | 14.05%
    29 | 28/03/2020 | 2121 | 294 | 2415 | 13.86% | -2.65% | 36 | 1.49% | 645 | 26.7% | 84 | 3.48% | 5 | 0.21% | 0.049% | 2374 | 35.15% | 21.19% | 17.45% | 15.59% | 42.02% | 23.73% | 18.89% | 8.10%
    30 | 29/03/2020 | 2415 | 200 | 2615 | 8.28% | -31.97% | 46 | 1.76% | 703 | 26.9% | 113 | 4.32% | 5 | 0.19% | 0.053% | 2564 | 34.26% | 16.80% | 16.43% | 12.92% | 39.56% | 4.72% | 11.67% | -5.40%
    31 | 30/03/2020 | 2615 | 295 | 2910 | 11.28% | 47.50% | 54 | 1.86% | 834 | 28.7% | 126 | 4.33% | 5 | 0.17% | 0.059% | 2851 | 33.52% | 15.67% | 14.59% | 11.14% | 39.81% | 12.87% | 6.88% | 4.29%
    32 | 31/03/2020 | 2910 | 325 | 3235 | 11.17% | 10.17% | 71 | 2.19% | 932 | 28.8% | 134 | 4.14% | 5 | 0.15% | 0.066% | 3159 | 32.82% | 15.29% | 13.60% | 10.24% | 38.89% | 15.80% | 9.31% | 8.57%
    33 | 01/04/2020 | 3235 | 212 | 3447 | 6.55% | -34.77% | 85 | 2.47% | 1039 | 30.1% | 148 | 4.29% | 5 | 0.15% | 0.070% | 3357 | 32.02% | 14.40% | 12.01% | 9.67% | 36.66% | 10.46% | 2.17% | 7.63%
    34 | 02/04/2020 | 3447 | 402 | 3849 | 11.66% | 89.62% | 98 | 2.55% | 0 | 0.0% | 148 | 3.85% | 5 | 0.13% | 0.078% | 3746 | 31.42% | 13.15% | 11.34% | 9.79% | 38.21% | 11.32% | 13.76% | 21.67%
    35 | 03/04/2020 | 3849 | 424 | 4273 | 11.02% | 5.47% | 120 | 2.81% | 0 | 0.0% | 148 | 3.46% | 5 | 0.12% | 0.087% | 4148 | 30.84% | 12.44% | 10.55% | 9.74% | 37.28% | 12.55% | 11.91% | 20.11%




    NR = Not Reported
    ▲ = Daily case increase averaged over the past 10, 7 and 3 days and from day 1
    ■ = Daily case reporting change averaged over the past 10, 7 and 3 days and from day 1


    Source: Department of Health and the Health Protection Surveillaence Centre.

    *"Recovered" rates are not reported by the Department of Health in the above link, these figures are taken from the Worldmeters and Johns Hopkins websites which use data suplied by the DoT to the ECDC under the WHO Guidelines for reporting. Recovered statistics can only be published as "recovered" following two successful tests of being clear of the virus under the WHO reporting guidelines, as a result it is likely the recovered data is skewed.

    ** Due to the above issue with reporting of revovered cases the number of active cases is also likely skewed.

    Day 20 - Thursday 19/03/20 Stats
    Day 21 - Friday 20/03/20 Stats
    Day 22 - Saturday 21/03/20 Stats
    Day 23 - Sunday 22/03/20 Stats
    Day 24 - Monday 23/03/20 Stats
    Day 25 - Tuesday 24/03/20 Stats
    Day 26 - Wednesday 25/03/20 Stats
    Day 27 - Thursday 26/03/20 Stats
    Day 28 - Friday 27/03/20 Stats
    Day 29 - Saturday 28/03/20 Stats
    Day 30 - Sunday 29/03/20 Stats
    Day 31 - Monday 30/03/20 Stats
    Day 32 - Tuesday 31/03/20 Stats
    Day 33 - Wednesday 01/04/20 Stats
    Day 34 - Thursday 02/04/20 Stats


  • #8698
    iguana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,909 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    threeball wrote: »
    Bcg was given in schools around 3rd or 4th class in the 80s. I remember queuing up to get it in the hall and having the 3 little scars on my shoulder for years.

    Many of us born in the late 70s would have gotten the BCG as a baby. Then when we were in primary school would have gotten a Heaf test, which is the 6 needles in a circle, on our inner arms a couple of inches above the wrist. If after a few days, you showed no reaction to the Heaf test, you needed to get a BCG. If you did have a reaction, depending on how pronounced it was, it meant you had antibodies either from a successful BCG or a previous TB infection.


  • #8699
    iguana
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    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Few examples.
    • We are increasing our testing capacity by X but leaving out the fact you have no way to process said tests.
    • All of our front line staff have PPE while leaving out the fact that it is not adequate to protect against this virus.


    I could go on.....

    Claiming that the new testing criteria resulted in our rate of positive testing going from 6% to 15% even though only 5 days had passed and it takes longer than 5 days from referral to result.


  • #8700
    IAMAMORON
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭IAMAMORON


    Bushmaster64 wrote: »
    There are some countries massaging their figures. And not just 3rd world despotic ones. Obviously China and Iran are lying.

    Watch out for Sweden and Japan. Maybe even Germany. Both Sweden and Germany have proven to have a press that will mislead the public at the government's behest.

    Deaths rates in UK, Italy and Spain higher than published but that's more to do with not having the resources to accurately track deaths outside of hospitals.

    So comparing country by country is not that simple because data isn't reliable.

    In Germany if you die of cardiac arrest after coming off a ventilator they are stating you died of a heart attack etc. If you drown while on a ventilator you are dying of pneumonia etc etc. They are not including cause of death as Covid 19. My understanding being that in the future the German health system will look to be classifying exactly what strain of Covid the victims had, they will revise their stats down the line once they are satisfied. Germans are very thorough, they don't spoof. Watch for updates on their statistics.

    China must be lying, they have a population of 1.4 billion and considering the virus started there the figure of 81k with 3.2k deaths is rubbish. Considering they are top table in the UN their behaviour is appalling.

    It is also worth stating that Ireland currently have more Covid cases than Russia...…. of course we do.:rolleyes:

    I don't think Iran is lying. Their stats are feasible all things considered.


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  • #8701
    EDit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 819 ✭✭✭EDit


    Lavinia wrote: »
    Total number of deaths in Italy for Q1 (comparison):

    2020 - 166.407
    2019 - 185.967
    2018 - 187.991
    2017 - 192.045

    I don't have those in English, sorry, but these are the numbers

    If the numbers are correct (2017-2019 look like they come from an official document; the 2020 ones don’t though) it is pretty meaningless anyway. These are deaths from any cause and are subject to random variation year on year. Also, for example, how do we know that the lockdown in Italy hasn’t prevented 1000s of road deaths, or prevented 1000s of deaths from flu or other communicable diseases, which would reduce the total number?

    Seriously, I’m kinda lost as to why people keep pulling up these numbers. Is it some sort of weak attempt to suggest that this virus isn’t that bad and we are all being conned by the illuminati?


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