CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP**

China is asshoe

https://twitter.com/TGtadie/status/1246308429259554816

Field east wrote: »

Two aspects of this whole virus issue have not been answered IMO . Maybe some boardie out there can provide some light on them and which are as follows:-
(1) is there a concentration of the virus below which you will not be infected by it ?. Or is it the case that, irrespective of the level of concentration you will get infected if you come in contact with it is on your hands and you fingered your nose. Age probably comes into it as an older persons immunity would not be as robust. Maybe also if one gets infected with a very low concentration of the virus they may not get as sick as someone who was infected with a very high concentration

(2)will keeping food / food packaging in a deep freeze -18C +- kill the virus. Ditto re fridge at around 3C

Low temperatures generally won’t kill a virus.

They’re usually too small to be affected by ice crystals puncturing them (and they don’t have cells or cell membranes to worry about)

Viruses are strands of protein contained in a fatty envelope, to destroy them you need to either denature the protein or dissolve the fatty envelope (lipids)
This is why radiation (uv) heat and detergents are effective at destroying them
Another way to deactivate them is to swarm them with a coating that binds to their binding sites and prevents them from working, this is more or less how antibodies work, and bio pharmaceutical medicines replicate this mechanism

owlbethere wrote: »

Regarding the BCG vaccine

I read online and I don't know how true it is, the vaccine only gives protection for X number of years because it wears off over time. I forget how many years it says. 12/15/20 years - I don't know.

That's how vaccines work. They don't tend to confer permanent/multi-decades long immunity in the same way that actually being infected with and recovering from an illness does. They work because once almost everyone has immunity for a reasonable period of time, the virus has nowhere to go and dies out. When you have a situation where a disease has died out in a region of high vaccination but then a mixture of immigration from places where the vaccines aren't commonplace and a growing movement of people who refuse to vaccinate, those diseases can reoccur.

If you received the MMR as a child from the mid 80s to the mid 90s, there is a good chance you are no longer immune to those illnesses. I'm from the last generation in Ireland who were not offered the MMR, in fact by the time it was introduced here, I had already had measles when I was 3 (was shït) and mumps and rubella when I was 5 (was actually a nice time). So my immunity to those illnesses is better than most people who are slightly younger than me. I had an antibody testing when I was pregnant and the midwife said it was very rare to see antibodies to all of those. On the other hand, my Heaf test when I was a kid had a very mild reaction as my antibodies were from the BCG, whereas my mum had TB as a baby and her Heaf test marks were more pronounced than my fresh ones even though hers were 10 and 20 years old.

Blueshoe wrote: »

Didn't Simon coveney say we were doing close to 5k tests a day but at the press conference recently it was announced we were doing 1500

GPs are forwarding 3000 a day for testing according to RTE and we have only been testing 1500 a day. so there's massive backlog. not to mention the cluster**** at the start, the most important time where everyone in the country with a sniffle was looking for a test.

in short, we have no idea whatsoever the rate of infection in this country and it is likely 10 times the reported figure. the only accurate figure is the death rate and ICU figures so people should focus on those.

Bushmaster64 wrote: »

There are some countries massaging their figures. And not just 3rd world despotic ones. Obviously China and Iran are lying.

Watch out for Sweden and Japan. Maybe even Germany. Both Sweden and Germany have proven to have a press that will mislead the public at the government's behest.

Deaths rates in UK, Italy and Spain higher than published but that's more to do with not having the resources to accurately track deaths outside of hospitals.

So comparing country by country is not that simple because data isn't reliable.

Maybe in some cases the figures are revealing who is managing the crisis better and who isn’t ...........just maybe?

Pseudonym121 wrote: »

Simple fix. I’ve gotten a couple of takeaways over the past six weeks and I just made sure to treat the food as infected and microwaved it to piping hot again after delivery.

Microwaving to piping hot will break the rna hydroxyl bonds and make it safe to eat even if someone DID cough directly onto the food just before closing the packaging.

Simples.

ah yes, those pesky RNA Hydroxyl bonds, i hate them in my soup.

Sittingpretty wrote: »

That compilation makes him look like he bought his medical doctorate at his local Walmart.

Well, if he is an actual MD then god help any patients that he 'treats' and he should be immediately struck off. But 'Doctor' can be anyone that has a Phd in whatever discipline you choose. I doubt if this cretin knows one end of a syringe from the other.

Sorry if it’s already been mentioned, I only read the last 10 pages, but has anyone else heard that apparently Matt Damon is stuck in Dublin and has been spotted jogging on Killiney Hill?

I only mention it because it seems improbable that he has absolutely no way to get back to America, but also, a photo apparently taken on Wednesday was posted on Twitter, with him with his arm around some fan in Dalkey?? Why are both of them being so irresponsible?

Makes me think it’s all a load of rubbish, and this woman is posting a photo that was actually taken a month ago.

Spain, Italy, UK all seem to consistently report 700 or 800 deaths.

I reckon its a lot more but they haven't the meams to count for more deaths.

Bushmaster64 wrote: »

There are some countries massaging their figures. And not just 3rd world despotic ones. Obviously China and Iran are lying.

Watch out for Sweden and Japan. Maybe even Germany. Both Sweden and Germany have proven to have a press that will mislead the public at the government's behest.

Deaths rates in UK, Italy and Spain higher than published but that's more to do with not having the resources to accurately track deaths outside of hospitals.

So comparing country by country is not that simple because data isn't reliable.

Ironically the US will probably have more accurate figures than most given how its individual states doing the counting and its not in their interests to under report if they want federal assistance.