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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP**

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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Still 5:30 for DOH press conference?

    Dr. Ronan may be late

    Wont want to make Dr Tony look bad :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,203 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Italian officials calling the "supplies" from Russia a publicity stunt, up to 80% of it useless.

    Which will surprise precisely no one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 962 ✭✭✭darjeeling


    Although the numbers are relatively small, so may not therefore be entirely reliable, the statistical likelihood of someone very young dying of the disease is about 0.2% last I saw. I'd imagine that that would make Covid-19 the single most dangerous thing for young people, even if on an individual basis death would be very unlikely.

    South Korean data on case fatality by age is probably giving a fairly accurate picture of how the disease affects different age groups.

    Fatality rate in over 80s is currently more than 500 x rate in under 50s.

    Age|Cases|Deaths|Crude CFR
    0–9|116|0|0.0%
    10–19|519|0|0.0%
    20–29|2682|0|0.0%
    30–39|1027|1|0.1%
    40–49|1323|1|0.1%
    50–59|1865|10|0.5%
    60–69|1245|23|1.8%
    70–79|658|46|7.0%
    > 80|452|84|18.6%

    NB very likely there are more mild / asymptomatic cases not included in the counts, and 44% of cases remain unresolved.

    link to data


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 876 ✭✭✭ITman88


    So all of the world's best virologists and infectious-disease epidemiologists have got it wrong so far ? And some randomer on Russian TV has all the answers.

    It's all just a 'storm in a teacup' ? :rolleyes:

    Why do you keep trying to minimize the lethal effects of this pandemic ?

    GettyImages_1216041772.0.jpg

    Even Trump was convinced by the terrible numbers on the charts behind him yesterday.

    .

    Eh he’s an Irish science journalist based in London.

    You left that part out.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2009/apr/29/swine-flu-mexico-uk-media1

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2009/jul/16/swine-flu-cases-rise-britain

    Those links were imbedded in the article


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,806 ✭✭✭An Ciarraioch


    Still 5:30 for DOH press conference?

    No time announced by either Fergal Bowers or Richard Chambers yet, which suggests 7 would be the earliest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,669 ✭✭✭✭Mental Mickey


    Yer one speaking on behalf of the NHS now is Irish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,203 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    No time announced by either Fergal Bowers or Richard Chambers yet, which suggests 7 would be the earliest.

    Thought I saw 5:30 mentioned?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,669 ✭✭✭✭Mental Mickey


    No time announced by either Fergal Bowers or Richard Chambers yet, which suggests 7 would be the earliest.

    5.30 was mentioned either earlier today or late yesterday...?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    5.45 or 6.00 in our time


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭RandomName2



    Why do you keep trying to minimize the lethal effects of this pandemic ?

    The fifth column for the coronavirus is gradually being defeated. They need to be stamped out. As the video DeVore posted shows, if only 10% of people don't take social distancing seriously, the effect can be huge. There are a small number of people who have always been opposed to any measures being taken against Covid-19, but their argument are flawed from both a ethical and economic point of view.

    Unfortunately Trump has been one of those people, and his slow conversion will cost America greatly, both in lives and dollars (let's be honest, the latter is what a lot of people are genuinely concerned about)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,301 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Cuomo on CNN now.


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    Yer one speaking on behalf of the NHS now is Irish.

    On that I can't believe all the Irish working in the NHS didn't "come home to help" what's wrong with them? Perth Health system be damned.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,872 ✭✭✭Sittingpretty


    I just learned of the death of a parent in my child’s school with COVID 19.

    Age 42 :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,785 ✭✭✭✭josip


    OscarMIlde wrote: »
    You can't send them away, it's an RNA based virus. The RNA would be degraded and unsuitable for RT-PCR by the time it reached another country.


    How do we test samples here 7 days or more after the swabs are taken?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,669 ✭✭✭✭Mental Mickey


    I just learned of the death of a parent in my child’s school with COVID 19.

    Age 42 :(

    Fook. RIP


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    RiseAbove4 wrote: »
    Ok, I’ll give this a go in the catch all thread, aka The Daily Blur


    Ive just read this on a UK forum;

    “In order to medically claim that someone is recovered you need to retest them to make sure they no longer have the virus”

    Is this true for Ireland and elsewhere too?

    The number listed under Recovered have always worried me, but maybe I’m misunderstanding them
    Yes.

    You haven't misunderstood, there is no consistency in the 'Recovered' figures, just like 'Confirmed' cases figure.

    Some countries test once after 14 or 18 days, a few test twice, most if your still standing after 14 days you've 'Recovered'.

    To do properly is a resource hungry operation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,149 ✭✭✭chasm


    kyote00 wrote: »
    I 'think' they use the 'register of elections' to send them out....so if you are not on this or haven;t updated recently then you probably wont get them....

    Electronic versions of everything here......
    https://www.hse.ie/eng/services/news/newsfeatures/covid19-updates/partner-resources/

    I am on the register and have been for many years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,740 ✭✭✭✭MD1990


    spookwoman wrote: »

    I think we should wear them.

    Better be safe than sorry & some people will have it with no syptoms so will help prevent spread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    At first I was optimistically thinking weeks for this - realistically months, now I optimistically think months, realistically years...

    Italy ****ED again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭Blanco100


    spookwoman wrote: »

    Never understood this. Of course they would provide some kind of protection. Always thought the advice not to wear them or class them as pointless means of protection was a way of protecting their supply more than anything else.

    The last thing they would want is a run on masks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭Naggdefy


    1816 was the year without a summer, meteorologically, post Mt. Tambora eruption.

    2020 is going to be year without summer in a sporting sense, and with whatever other restrictions remain.

    There's no soft words to sugar coat it, we're just going to have to tough it out, one day at a time. We'll really appreciate life, hopefully most of us here will pull through, when this is over.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    I would think there could be a fall in positive cases today if the testing numbers are limited.
    Death rates should be starting to climb as the numbers who are infected start to develop more serious conditions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,564 ✭✭✭OscarMIlde


    Looks like no one told the U.K. manufacturers of re-agent about this shortage. They know nothing about it. Politician wouldn’t lie, would they??

    These are commercial test kits designed to extract and purify RNA. They contain various solutions made up in precise quantities. Diagnostics labs cannot just start making these solutions themselves. For one thing, companies don't let you know the precise quantities of reagents in each buffer; it's propriety information. For another, diagnostic labs have to use the kits that they are accredited to use as per their test protocols. You cannot just chop and change as you would in a research lab, as tests have a clinical significance and need to be trusted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 871 ✭✭✭voluntary


    spookwoman wrote: »

    They will be now reviewing what most reasonable people were saying from the day-1.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,669 ✭✭✭✭Mental Mickey


    At first I was optimistically thinking weeks for this - realistically months, now I optimistically think months, realistically years...

    Italy ****ED again.

    What happened in Italy now?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,665 ✭✭✭kyote00


    "science journalist"
    science is not jouralism

    ITman88 wrote: »
    Eh he’s an Irish science journalist based in London.

    You left that part out.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2009/apr/29/swine-flu-mexico-uk-media1

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2009/jul/16/swine-flu-cases-rise-britain

    Those links were imbedded in the article


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    Blanco100 wrote: »
    Never understood this. Of course they would provide some kind of protection. Always thought the advice not to wear them or class them as pointless means of protection was a way of protecting their supply more than anything else.

    The last thing they would want is a run on masks.


    They HSE had no supply of mask so of course they we ambiguous about their use. Now that supply is starting to kick in they will recommend that they are useful and should be worn. It is all very predictable from the HSE.


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