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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP**

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭statesaver




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 886 ✭✭✭cosanostra


    Didn't Leo say a nurse had died in one of his speeches?

    Yep


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,002 ✭✭✭BLIZZARD7


    I'm sure the vast majority of people who are mildly sick aren't getting diagnosed because of the massive strain on the health system. The mortality rate certainly isn't going to be accurate in this case.

    Yeah I don't think the mortality rate will come in close to that in the end but it is still increasing.

    I think the ~1% figures are conservative and possibly only achievable in a developed country with low rate of infection. The mortality appears to sky rocket when healthcare systems get overwhelmed.

    But yes we have no idea how many people are truly infected until we see widespread community testing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,667 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Messaging from U.K. news media is still confusing and muddled. ITV news just stated that 28 of the U.K. deaths “had no underlying conditions”

    This doesn’t make any sense - how come some healthy people recover and others die?

    Anyone got a more sensible explanation for this?

    theres always going to be statistical outliers who truly are healthy and who will die, and obviously the more infections increase the more of these will happen. Thats why I dont get why some young people are being so cavalier about becoming infected. You dont know that you wont be one of the unlucky ones. I certainly wouldnt want to take the chance.


    Also at least one of the "no underlying conditions" people that I saw was obese. I think being overweight is definitely a risk factor for more severe outcomes.


  • Posts: 24,713 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    antodeco wrote: »
    Its really scary if 133 ICU patients mean we are under severe pressure...
    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    103 in ICU as of yesterday in ROI according to Virgin Media News and that some private hospitals have already been treating public patients

    Accumulated since the start, media misreporting.

    These are not the numbers currently in ICU, the hse only reports accumulated numbers.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,063 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Apparently, from midnight tonight they are going to be releasing daily figures for asymptomatic cases (following growing anger from abroad).

    This should be be very telling...

    Not quite the same thing as stating that , well actually, to be perfectly frank, 132,000 people died in Wuhan.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭FVP3


    France

    7,578 new cases

    499 new deaths

    Worst day yet for France by some distance.

    You have a fetish for the bad news. Did you post their 2,600 new cases a few days ago, a major drop?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭domrush


    cnocbui wrote: »
    Not quite the same thing as stating that , well actually, to be perfectly frank, 132,000 people died in Wuhan.

    Source


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭FVP3


    cnocbui wrote: »
    The UK governments science advisors, probably a cover for Intelligence sources, believe the Chinese have probably under reported their figures which may be as much as 40 times worse. Basing anything on China's figures is an absolute waste of time.

    You can definitely trust the UK intelligence services on that one. Not known to lie about their ideological enemies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,201 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    France

    7,578 new cases

    499 new deaths

    Worst day yet for France by some distance.


    Last daily high for new cases was on the 28th of March with 4,611 cases.

    Last daily high for fatalities was yesterday with 418 recorded deaths.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,203 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    irishlad. wrote: »
    Department briefing moved to 7.30

    I repeat, 7.30!

    OMG I don't like this, bad news


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,201 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    FVP3 wrote: »
    You have a fetish for the bad news. Did you post their 2,600 new cases a few days ago, a major drop?

    No, did you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,056 ✭✭✭darced


    threeball wrote: »
    So Paddy Cosgrove was posting sh1te on twitter. No nurses have died from Covid19 here. Dipstick.

    Who was the healthcare worker that Leo said died?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭FVP3


    To be fair Sen. Tom Cotton also said the same and he's quite sane.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,002 ✭✭✭BLIZZARD7


    Accumulated since the start, media misreporting.

    These are not the numbers currently in ICU, the hse only reports accumulated numbers.

    I don't think that's the case, the reports today were from Dr Motherway who is the President of intensive care association Ireland. The quotes very much implied these were the current numbers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭FVP3


    No, did you?

    I dont trawl through the statistics to post the worst news though. Why do you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,610 ✭✭✭shocksy


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    OMG I don't like this, bad news

    No, just delayed as is the norm lately.

    They're busy is all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,384 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    darced wrote: »
    Who was the healthcare worker that Leo said died?

    Did Leo base this assertion on an Irish Times story?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭FVP3


    Accumulated since the start, media misreporting.

    These are not the numbers currently in ICU, the hse only reports accumulated numbers.

    Sorry Nox, would love to believe you as a fellow optimist on this but.... the numbers fell yesterday so it cant be cumulative.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 246 ✭✭deaglan1


    This is not meant to be a criticism in any way, just curiosity. Are the stats for this country relating to a different daily time frame to other European countries? Stats are released in the evening while almost every other European country release their figures much earlier in the day. The reset time at worldometer is midnight GMT 00 which would suggest that an evening release would reflect daily figures better than a morning release, yet for almost every other country, stats are supplied very early in the day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 702 ✭✭✭eastmayo


    Sorry if already been asked...What time numbers been released 2day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,063 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    domrush wrote: »
    Source

    Maths.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,337 ✭✭✭alan partridge aha


    Alot of ghouls on here looking for bad news.


  • Posts: 24,713 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    BLIZZARD7 wrote: »
    I don't think that's the case, the reports today were from Dr Motherway who is the President of intensive care association Ireland. The quotes very much implied these were the current numbers.

    She is either purposely or accidentally misreporting then. I have heard plenty of doctors quoting the hse accumulated numbers in ICU as “currently in ICU”.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,239 ✭✭✭Coyote


    Irish teacher Ben Kavanagh gives his top tips for making the most of self-isolation - after being in lockdown from the COVID-19 coronavirus three times in three different countries.

    He was teaching English in Wohan when he was locked down the first time, then quarantined in the UK on his return from China, and now is self isolating again in Dublin !

    He waffles a bit but has some good tips on surviving this strange time for us all.



    I watched some of Ben videos before and liked him but i think we have found the cause of covid19 it's Ben, anywhere he goes it follows, time to deport him ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    Alot of ghouls on here looking for bad news.

    Some people don't have much of a life to hold onto so they're only delighted to see the world go down the ****ter, as that's the way they were going anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 94 ✭✭mouldybiscuits


    scamalert wrote: »
    if theres no positive results in 2 weeks time, think curtain will drop and people will take their chances, i get some enjoy this kumba ya isolation forever no work no worries attitude, but realistically if 2 weeks dont give enough leverage whats the point in keeping going same route, social distancing and some ppe seems about as effective. Doubt any government in the world will say sure lock it down till there's cure found, stupid and pointless all together. even if there was no cases someone immune could spread it and in theory this could go on for years.
    2 weeks is very short time for this situation, I'd imagine that will be extended. It's sounding like our hospitals are already very busy with coronavirus patients and removing restrictions too early would just lead to cases blowing up again. It might sound stupid or pointless to you but as long as we keep up these restrictions our hospitals might be able to cope with the numbers and people who would have died due to hospitals being overrun will get a chance of survival.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,062 ✭✭✭davedanon


    statesaver wrote: »
    The standard of journalism in this country is appalling.

    How so, exactly? Without saying, 'because of that IT story', if you don't mind.


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  • Posts: 24,713 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    FVP3 wrote: »
    Sorry Nox, would love to believe you as a fellow optimist on this but.... the numbers fell yesterday so it cant be cumulative.

    They didn’t fall yesterday they have increased everyday since the beginning.


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