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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,824 ✭✭✭ShooterSF


    Have to go collect something from Parcel Motel and never felt so guilty! Unfortunately, ordered it weeks ago and it only arrived now and can't afford to pay 4 euro a day for 2 weeks to leave it there. Didn't think they'd even still be operating.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,045 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    ShooterSF wrote: »
    Have to go collect something from Parcel Motel and never felt so guilty! Unfortunately, ordered it weeks ago and it only arrived now and can't afford to pay 4 euro a day for 2 weeks to leave it there. Didn't think they'd even still be operating.

    Perhaps you could fit it in with a shopping trip to minimise risk.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,136 ✭✭✭Akabusi


    BanditLuke wrote: »


    Nightmare.

    I know it is rare that something like this happens but i don't feel the message of how it can effect the young was strong enough. In my case, I had very mild symptoms, but my 6 year old, went through the ringer before he came out the other side.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 306 ✭✭Just Saying


    otnomart wrote: »

    I would imagine yesterday's results were from a period prior to 27/03 and therefore taken from people who were polysymptomatic .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 452 ✭✭Logan Roy


    Akabusi wrote: »
    Nightmare.

    I know it is rare that something like this happens but i don't feel the message of how it can effect the young was strong enough. In my case, I had very mild symptoms, but my 6 year old, went through the ringer before he came out the other side.

    Did you both test positive?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 288 ✭✭citysights


    leahyl wrote: »
    Aqueous cream is good too - my hands are destroyed as well :(

    Try olive oil or a bit of any kind of oil I’d say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    Over 37% of those in ICU are aged over 65.

    Eh... that's a bit scary.

    63% in ICUs in Ireland are under 65?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,293 ✭✭✭billybonkers


    Hoping to pass crisis stage in 5 months...

    https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1244930289429876736


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    From the Guardian live blog
    Ireland has issued guidelines on safe sex during the coronavirus pandemic, writes Rory Carroll in Dublin.

    Only be sexually active with someone you live with and who does not have the virus or symptoms of the virus, and avoid kissing anyone outside your household or who has symptoms, say the Health Service Executive guidelines.

    “Taking a break from physical and face-to-face interactions is worth considering, especially if you meet your sex partners online or make a living by having sex. Consider using video dates, sexting or chat rooms. Make sure to disinfect keyboards and touch screens that you share with others.”

    Masturbation will not spread coronavirus, it adds. “Especially if you wash your hands (and any sex toys) with soap and water for at least 20 seconds before and after.”

    When I was a kid you couldn't buy condoms in Ireland. We have changed A LOT


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,136 ✭✭✭Akabusi


    Logan Roy wrote: »
    Did you both test positive?

    I was tested on the 20th and received the positive result today. My young lad was not tested, he developed his symptoms last Thursday.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    Spain allready on 6.4K today and only 1PM, looks like another sharp rise for today ...

    I just can't trust any media sources anymore ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    Hoping to pass crisis stage in 5 months...

    https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1244930289429876736

    Fingers crossed for an Indian Summer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,529 ✭✭✭✭Varik


    Gardaì in the south came across a COVID-19 positive person who was travelling to post a letter. :(:(

    For all those guidelines of what the person themselves should do is there any support offered by HSE or anyone.

    Are they just waiting for the call for an ambulance if they get worse or the neighbours to complain about a smell in a few weeks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    Roger_007 wrote: »
    The problem is that nobody knows enough about this virus to be able to predict how it’s spreading in the community. The remarkably different scenarios in different countries doesn’t fit neatly into any ‘model’ so far.
    Nobody seems to be able to explain why it’s so much worse in some countries like Italy and Spain. There are so many theories about different countries counting things in different ways that it’s really impossible to compare one country with another.
    But there is no doubting the body count and Spain is certainly in a bad place on that statistic.

    You are right that its spread is unpredictable in certain circumstances, but I think for anyone who has been watching this since it broke out in China, there's been shared commonalities to hot spots with the odd exception.

    1. Largely urbanised areas who also have busy airline hubs eg London, NYC
    2. Busy public transport such as an underground - eg Tube, Metro.
    3. Failure to lockdown in time and in particular cancel large sporting events - eg Atalanta v Valencia, Cheltenham, Women's day Marches in Spain.
    4. Densely populated cities

    Cities like these have had it much worse than other areas.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,776 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    gabeeg wrote: »
    From the Guardian live blog



    When I was a kid you couldn't buy condoms in Ireland. We have changed A LOT

    Hygienic Masturbation Guide, thanks HSE :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,045 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Spain allready on 6.4K today and only 1PM, looks like another sharp rise for today ...

    I just can't trust any media sources anymore ...

    I know how you feel but I think we need to make judgement calls on the information sources we use.

    Lack of trust in all media can be the breeding ground for falsehoods and ultimately lead to paranoia.

    If a journalist was ethical and trusted before this then they are most likely to be reliable now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Again I'd say it's down to very high density dwellings. A city like Madrid is chock full of high rise apartments. Like I was saying earlier the average Irish road of houses is significantly less risky for community spread than the same number of people in a high rise apartment building. If your neighbour here has the virus you can avoid contact with him and the surfaces they touch without even really trying. If they were living in an apartment on your floor you couldn't. You would have to be far more proactive in protecting yourself. That was seen in the 1918 pandemic. People who lived in suburban and extraurban houses were far less affected than those living in shared city housing.

    I wonder if one of the social changes we see in the future is a bigger aversion to apartment living than we already have. Not just because of the higher infection risk in an apartment but also because as this lockdown phase continues, the variation of experience between people in apartments versus people in houses becomes far more obvious. This 'lockdown' experience is going to be completely different for people in apartments, many without even a balcony and people with a garden, especially people with a bigger house and large garden.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,292 ✭✭✭1641


    Inquitus wrote: »
    Hygienic Masturbation Guide, thanks HSE :)


    Fair play - you got to hand it to them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭otnomart


    josip wrote: »
    What's going to happen now in the Netherlands?
    Their ICUs are effectively full.
    https://www.covid-19.no/netherlands-905-out-of-925-icu-beds-in-use


    Are they going to do Italian/Spanish triaging or do they have another plan?
    Weren't they also going the herd route at some stage?
    Are they still?


    In today's news:
    "The Netherlands' Outbreak Management Team advised the government to extend current measures to curb the spread of Covid-19 through to end-April or early-May. The team also recommended limiting inland tourism.
    Inland tourism, such as going camping or visiting a local hotel, is currently not forbidden, though mayors have the option of closing campsites."

    https://nltimes.nl/2020/03/31/coronavirus-measures-likely-extended-april-inland-tourism-restrictions-possible


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,861 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    It’s all over the british papers this morning (the headline in the guardian). Derbyshire police have been particularly guilty in overreaching their power

    Cheers, haven't read any papers today been mostly driving so only have radio news and they never mentioned anything.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,045 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Varik wrote: »
    For all those guidelines of what the person themselves should do is there any support offered by HSE or anyone.

    Are they just waiting for the call for an ambulance if they get worse or the neighbours to complain about a smell in a few weeks.

    There is a lot of community based support out there and AGS won't be found wanting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,425 ✭✭✭maestroamado


    Just now i was looking at a world chart of the mortality numbers for Covid 19
    The climate must be a big factor, i thought it run riot in Asia where people live in all kinda conditions.
    There are 5 deaths in Thailand, none in Vietnam and none in Cambodia.
    There is also a much higher % mortality in Europe than Africa UK very high.
    It may be because of living conditions stronger immune.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Tacitus Kilgore


    Just now i was looking at a world chart of the mortality numbers for Covid 19
    The climate must be a big factor, i thought it run riot in Asia where people live in all kinda conditions.
    There are 5 deaths in Thailand, none in Vietnam and none in Cambodia.
    There is also a much higher % mortality in Europe than Africa UK very high.
    It may be because of living conditions stronger immune.


    IMO It's quite likely a case of a lot of deaths not being particularly well recorded - no records = no deaths.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    Don't shoot the messenger.
    #notpaddy
    #notdoingitforthelikes

    https://twitter.com/paddycosgrave/status/1244932180553449476?s=20

    I'm not a huge fan of Leo but he's good and somewhat clever. Buttering the Chinese up is the right call for sure so we can get as much out from them as possible. Hopefully the PPE that came in is of good quality. P1ssing the Chinese off now might do is more harm than good just in case they pull back on resources that we will need.


    I saw Leo's face when he was sitting beside Trump. I definitely got a hint of disgust from his face when he was sitting beside Trump.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭Ger Roe


    Just now i was looking at a world chart of the mortality numbers for Covid 19
    The climate must be a big factor, i thought it run riot in Asia where people live in all kinda conditions.
    There are 5 deaths in Thailand, none in Vietnam and none in Cambodia.
    There is also a much higher % mortality in Europe than Africa UK very high.
    It may be because of living conditions stronger immune.

    Or more likely because those countries don't have the health systems and infrastructure to track and report properly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,121 ✭✭✭This is it


    Just now i was looking at a world chart of the mortality numbers for Covid 19
    The climate must be a big factor, i thought it run riot in Asia where people live in all kinda conditions.
    There are 5 deaths in Thailand, none in Vietnam and none in Cambodia.
    There is also a much higher % mortality in Europe than Africa UK very high.
    It may be because of living conditions stronger immune.

    Or because there's little testing or deaths attributed to C19 in those countries


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,121 ✭✭✭This is it


    IMO It's quite likely a case of a lot of deaths not being particularly well recorded - no records = no deaths.
    Ger Roe wrote: »
    Or more likely because those countries don't have the health systems and infrastructure to track and report properly.
    This is it wrote: »
    Or because there's little testing or deaths attributed to C19 in those countries

    That'll do it :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,325 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    A little fall in numbers, that's good.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage




    Great, if this is true then these lockdowns will never end till there is a vaccine.

    Jesus, this sh1t will never f*cking end ...


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