CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP**

timmy_mallet wrote: »

I love that this starts with 'What is it that you don't get? Possibly...'. POSSIBLY!!

podgeandrodge wrote: »

For what it's worth, an interview that The Sun published that Sean O'Rourke had on, might be of interest to those shopping...

Coronavirus Ireland: Expert on risk of catching virus while shopping in the supermarket


Kim Roberts, a lecturer at Trinity College Dublin, said that there is a risk of picking up Covid-19 at the shops but that risk is low.


Speaking to Sean O'Rourke on RTE Radio One, the assistant professor said that the biggest risk is what you are touching inside the shops.

Ms Roberts said: "The biggest risk is in the actual activity of doing your shopping, so if you are travelling on public transport it's about trying to maintain the two metre social distance from everyone else.

"If you are walking around the corner then obviously the risk is lower. When you go into the shop, when you touch the doors, freezers trolleys, those are all high touch surfaces that lot's of people would have touched so there's a risk there.

"So when I go out shopping, I assume as soon as I leave my house that my hands are dirty, so I wash my hands before I leave, so I go out the door assuming my hands are dirty and don't touch my face and touch as little surfaces as possible.

"If I assume my hands are dirty I am less likely to touch my face, my eyes, my nose and am therefore reducing my transmission risk.

"When you are in the shop the chances of a particular tin can you are picking up or a pack of cornflakes having a high enough amount of virus on them to cause a transmission is really low.

"Those individual shopping items are not seen as high risk.

"Everything we do has a risk. Somebody might have directly sneezed onto that tin can but that is unlikely to have happened."

The Trinity lecturer believes that wearing gloves do little to protect people and in some cases increase the risk of transmission.

She added: "Gloves can actually increase transmission risk. If we are touching stuff with gloves it is the exact same risk as without them on our hands.

"It gives us a false sense of security and people take higher risks."

Once you arrive home with the groceries, Ms Roberts doesn't think it's necessary to do a deep clean of items.

The Trinity lecturer said: "When you come back into the house wash you hands straight away, I would then put the shopping away immediately.

"Then I'd wash my hands again.

"I wouldn't(wash down the tins and food) because I personally believe that the chances someone sneezed or coughed on them is very low.

"But when I'm cooking I would wash my hands repeatedly.

"The virus isn't destroyed by cold temperatures, so putting it in the fridge or freezer won't kill it, but cooking will.

"The virus can theoretically survive on cardboard for up to 24 hours but that is very high dosages, normally it would be just a few hours."

murpho999 wrote: »

Why should they post 5 just because you want it?

You post the same stuff here over and over again.

Going on and on about flights but they're not the problem now.

Nursing care staff in Hazmat suits. Are you crazy? Do you realise that it's impossible for staff to work in nursing homes in them and never mind the effect on their clients.
Also, where would the suits come from?

Temperatures of people on the street would show nothing and then what do you do if they have a temperature? Enforce emergency legislation and arrest them.

It's in the community.

But you know what look at the numbers, it appears that the ideas that the government brought in under advice from CMO and HSE are working.

Numbers are nowhere near forecast and not at the levels that you or other posters are saying. You're probably disappointed you can't crow on about how "I predicted at Christmas there'd be 20,000 cases at the end of March".

Strazdas wrote: »

I disagree with him about gloves. I notice that when I'm wearing them, I never go to scratch or touch my face, but I'm tempted to do it when they're not on.

bottlebrush wrote: »

Thanks. Will certainly be using them.

Actually I got a letter in the post the other day from a girl I used work with wishing me well during this. It meant so so much to me. I would love if letter writing made a comeback. I havent written a letter or received one for years in years but that letter just touched my heart.

Achasanai wrote: »

The problem is that nobody knows where he's got the figure of four nurses dead from COVID19.


Well, I have an idea, that he's getting them out of his arse, but it's all conjecture.

BanditLuke wrote: »

Looking at the death total in the US just under 3000 thus far and comparing it to our own total of 54. Per capita we are at this present time in a worse position than the US with that total which is a worry.

tobefrank321 wrote: »

He asked me for 5 points, I gave them to him. If I didn't he'd complain. Can't win with some people!

Nursing homes are an obvious source of deaths. We need to throw everything at protecting the patients.

These are obvious points. If you don't adhere to strict protocols in nursing homes you bring in covid 19 and cause a large number of clusters in them.

Obvious.

The CMO said lift the ban on visitors to nursing homes. You think that was advisible?