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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,041 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    We got 2 lots. Both went in the bin.
    Waste of resources when we need such other more pressing items.

    Sent mine to a couple of older relations who might appreciate the reach out.

    It was a decent gesture from An Post who taking their corporate responsibility seriously.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Strazdas wrote: »
    Mail reporting nine 'domestic' murders in the UK in last 24 hours. This type of thing was always going to be one of the huge downsides of the lockdown.

    Is 9 a lot or a little?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,783 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    gozunda wrote: »
    Would appear that testing and lab analysis are a now a disaster - with 40,00 tests cancelled and new tests going without results for up to 12 days due to lack of reagent and other issues

    The released figures of those infected simply cannot be reliable at this point ...

    Simon Coveny just confirmed that 5,000 tests a day are being done and is increasing.
    That's the highest per head of population rate in Europe.

    I don't get the panic over knowing the number of cases. It can never be accurate without 100% daily testing of the populatoin.
    I think deaths and ICU numbers say more.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 133 ✭✭Urethral Buttercup


    Got to love all the cooped up paranoid saddos who are bitter about getting two free to send postcards from an post.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 763 ✭✭✭joe_99


    STB. wrote: »
    Total number admitted to ICU 84.

    Total number. Anyone in ICU at that moment in time is those "admitted". The numbers will only decrease if someone recovers or dies. The numbers decreased in ICU today by 4, from yesterdays 88.

    COVID cases

    20th March 17 cases in ICU
    24th March 47 cases in ICU

    25th March 59 cases in ICU
    26th March 67 cases in ICU
    27th March 77 cases in ICU
    28th March 84 cases in ICU
    29th March 88 cases in ICU
    30th March 84 cases in ICU

    Where are you getting the data for 29th & 30th? Thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,845 ✭✭✭Dr. Bre


    Cocooning sounds a bit like spooning


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,554 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    JoChervil wrote: »
    If this 84 is a cumulative number, so how could have it dropped from 88 reported on the previous day?

    People stay in ICU beds for weeks. See how many critical patients from this cruise are still in critical condition

    People in ICU die too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 133 ✭✭Urethral Buttercup


    Dr. Bre wrote: »
    Cocooning sounds a bit like spooning

    Don't spoon granny.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,402 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Is 9 a lot or a little?

    An awful lot : people being killed in their own homes by family members


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,041 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Are there stamps on the postcards?

    Yes.

    Free to post.

    Just takes a couple of minutes and you could make a difference to someone who is finding the isolation difficult.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,783 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    We got 2 lots. Both went in the bin.
    Waste of resources when we need such other more pressing items.

    Hope it was the recycling bin if you're so worried about resources.

    Anyhow, government is informing people. Not everybody is online all the time or access news etc.

    Also, the An Post idea has been received well and is a nice idea to keep people connected.

    You can't have misery all the time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 254 ✭✭Heiser


    My partner is a Healthcare Assistant and is now working on wards with positive cases.

    I'm now really nervous about her getting it. She was given no training on how to put the PPE on properly and was only given a surgical mask to wear yesterday (although she was working in an area with people waiting to get tested, rather than purely with positive cases like today). All this for 16 quid an hour.

    I have to say I'm really nervous for her and I'm also very nervous for my health, I have bad asthma.

    I think I might have to isolate away from her from now, but this could go on for months. Are there any other partners of healthcare workers on here?
    How are you approaching your living arrangements? Is it carry on as normal or are you isolating away from your partners?

    I suppose I should be isolating but practically can this be done for months on end when your living in the same apartment?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Achasanai wrote: »
    Can I ask whether you are 'cocooning'? There seems to be a bit of confusion as to whether it's the underlying condition or the drugs that require the cocooning (this is from the person's GP).
    I've been cocooning the past 3 weeks.
    I'd assume taking immune suppressants, supresses the immune system. It's the same medication transplant patients take and they are being asked to cocoon. So, I'll air on the side of caution.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,038 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    elperello wrote: »
    Free to post.

    Just takes a couple of minutes and you could make a difference to someone who is finding the isolation difficult.
    Yeah, you could send them the coronavirus.


  • Posts: 24,713 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    JoChervil wrote: »
    If this 84 is a cumulative number, so how could have it dropped from 88 reported on the previous day?

    People stay in ICU beds for weeks. See how many critical patients from this cruise are still in critical condition

    From what I can see the 88 number is not an official number, it’s not on the gov.ie website so I don’t think people should be quoting it as fact.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Snow Garden


    Heiser wrote: »
    My partner is a Healthcare Assistant and is now working on wards with positive cases.

    I'm now really nervous about her getting it. She was given no training on how to put the PPE on properly and was only given a surgical mask to wear yesterday (although she was working in an area with people waiting to get tested, rather than purely with positive cases like today). All this for 16 quid an hour.

    I have to say I'm really nervous for her and I'm also very nervous for my health, I have bad asthma.

    I think I might have to isolate away from her from now, but this could go on for months. Are there any other partners of healthcare workers on here?
    How are you approaching your living arrangements? Is it carry on as normal or are you isolating away from your partners?

    Youtube is good for videos showing how to put on and remove PPE. I know other heath services people use Youtube for guidance/training

    Examples:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ez4Wfqqq0fc
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKz_vNGsNhc
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxdaSeq4EVU


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,041 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Ficheall wrote: »
    Yeah, you could send them the coronavirus.

    Not likely according to what I have read.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,449 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    JoChervil wrote: »
    If this 84 is a cumulative number, so how could have it dropped from 88 reported on the previous day?

    People stay in ICU beds for weeks. See how many critical patients from this cruise are still in critical condition

    Because the HSE update yesterday gave an ICU figure which was the most up to date number the HSE had. The number given by the DoH this evening is what it was notified of by the health surveillance centre as of Saturday night. Theres a lag in the numbers for some reason. Tomorrows DoH figures should be along the lines of the 88 reported yesterday. It's a silly way of reporting as it leads to confusion with 2 agencies giving 2 different figures.

    Question has been asked by journalists at the briefing now a few times and each time they've been told the ICU number is the total since the start. CMO said it again this evening. I think both the HSE and DoH need to just sing off the same hymn sheet to avoid anymore confusion on the total numbers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,073 ✭✭✭JoChervil


    Amirani wrote: »
    People in ICU die too.

    That's why it is a current number. 4 people left the beds


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    gozunda wrote: »
    Would appear that testing and lab analysis are a now a disaster - with 40,00 tests cancelled and new tests going without results for up to 12 days due to lack of reagent and other issues

    The released figures of those infected simply cannot be reliable at this point ...

    I think confirmed case numbers have to be taken with a pinch of salt in any country bar maybe South Korea. Italy, UK and US are woefully under reporting cases by perhaps a factor of ten. Its obvious there's some logistical issues here.

    Its harder to fudge ICU admissions and deaths though.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,554 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    Heiser wrote: »
    I think I might have to isolate away from her from now, but this could go on for months. Are there any other partners of healthcare workers on here?
    How are you approaching your living arrangements? Is it carry on as normal or are you isolating away from your partners?

    Yeah. My partner showers (hair is a particular focus area!) and changes clothes straight away when she gets in the door.

    She's an A&E doctor so is constantly interacting with Covid patients. We act as normal amongst ourselves but have essentially been doing the current level of lockdown for a few weeks. Neither of us have any comorbitities though. Take care of yourself!


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    For what it's worth, an interview that The Sun published that Sean O'Rourke had on, might be of interest to those shopping...

    Coronavirus Ireland: Expert on risk of catching virus while shopping in the supermarket


    Kim Roberts, a lecturer at Trinity College Dublin, said that there is a risk of picking up Covid-19 at the shops but that risk is low.


    Speaking to Sean O'Rourke on RTE Radio One, the assistant professor said that the biggest risk is what you are touching inside the shops.

    Ms Roberts said: "The biggest risk is in the actual activity of doing your shopping, so if you are travelling on public transport it's about trying to maintain the two metre social distance from everyone else.

    "If you are walking around the corner then obviously the risk is lower. When you go into the shop, when you touch the doors, freezers trolleys, those are all high touch surfaces that lot's of people would have touched so there's a risk there.

    "So when I go out shopping, I assume as soon as I leave my house that my hands are dirty, so I wash my hands before I leave, so I go out the door assuming my hands are dirty and don't touch my face and touch as little surfaces as possible.

    "If I assume my hands are dirty I am less likely to touch my face, my eyes, my nose and am therefore reducing my transmission risk.

    "When you are in the shop the chances of a particular tin can you are picking up or a pack of cornflakes having a high enough amount of virus on them to cause a transmission is really low.

    "Those individual shopping items are not seen as high risk.

    "Everything we do has a risk. Somebody might have directly sneezed onto that tin can but that is unlikely to have happened."

    The Trinity lecturer believes that wearing gloves do little to protect people and in some cases increase the risk of transmission.

    She added: "Gloves can actually increase transmission risk. If we are touching stuff with gloves it is the exact same risk as without them on our hands.

    "It gives us a false sense of security and people take higher risks."

    Once you arrive home with the groceries, Ms Roberts doesn't think it's necessary to do a deep clean of items.

    The Trinity lecturer said: "When you come back into the house wash you hands straight away, I would then put the shopping away immediately.

    "Then I'd wash my hands again.

    "I wouldn't(wash down the tins and food) because I personally believe that the chances someone sneezed or coughed on them is very low.

    "But when I'm cooking I would wash my hands repeatedly.

    "The virus isn't destroyed by cold temperatures, so putting it in the fridge or freezer won't kill it, but cooking will.

    "The virus can theoretically survive on cardboard for up to 24 hours but that is very high dosages, normally it would be just a few hours."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    gozunda wrote: »
    Would appear that testing and lab analysis are a now a disaster - with 40,00 tests cancelled and new tests going without results for up to 12 days due to lack of reagent and other issues

    The released figures of those infected simply cannot be reliable at this point ...

    Yeah it certainly looks like a disaster alright.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    Heiser wrote: »
    My partner is a Healthcare Assistant and is now working on wards with positive cases.

    I'm now really nervous about her getting it. She was given no training on how to put the PPE on properly and was only given a surgical mask to wear yesterday (although she was working in an area with people waiting to get tested, rather than purely with positive cases like today). All this for 16 quid an hour.

    I have to say I'm really nervous for her and I'm also very nervous for my health, I have bad asthma.

    I think I might have to isolate away from her from now, but this could go on for months. Are there any other partners of healthcare workers on here?
    How are you approaching your living arrangements? Is it carry on as normal or are you isolating away from your partners?

    I suppose I should be isolating but practically can this be done for months on end when your living in the same apartment?

    I don’t have any practical advice but just wanted to say good luck and I hope you work out a living situation that you’re comfortable with.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 763 ✭✭✭joe_99


    From what I can see the 88 number is not an official number, it’s not on the gov.ie website so I don’t think people should be quoting it as fact.

    Yes, can't find it anywhere


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 262 ✭✭Shpongler


    Just saw him in isolation on Claire Byrne :D

    Screenshot-20200330-231842-02.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,431 ✭✭✭Tandey


    toneygecko wrote: »
    LOL, the resemblance is kind of striking in that portrait

    The only things that are striking are those paddles!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Woodsie1


    For what it's worth, an interview that The Sun published that Sean O'Rourke had on, might be of interest to those shopping...

    Coronavirus Ireland: Expert on risk of catching virus while shopping in the supermarket


    Kim Roberts, a lecturer at Trinity College Dublin, said that there is a risk of picking up Covid-19 at the shops but that risk is low.


    Speaking to Sean O'Rourke on RTE Radio One, the assistant professor said that the biggest risk is what you are touching inside the shops.

    Ms Roberts said: "The biggest risk is in the actual activity of doing your shopping, so if you are travelling on public transport it's about trying to maintain the two metre social distance from everyone else.

    "If you are walking around the corner then obviously the risk is lower. When you go into the shop, when you touch the doors, freezers trolleys, those are all high touch surfaces that lot's of people would have touched so there's a risk there.

    "So when I go out shopping, I assume as soon as I leave my house that my hands are dirty, so I wash my hands before I leave, so I go out the door assuming my hands are dirty and don't touch my face and touch as little surfaces as possible.

    "If I assume my hands are dirty I am less likely to touch my face, my eyes, my nose and am therefore reducing my transmission risk.

    "When you are in the shop the chances of a particular tin can you are picking up or a pack of cornflakes having a high enough amount of virus on them to cause a transmission is really low.

    "Those individual shopping items are not seen as high risk.

    "Everything we do has a risk. Somebody might have directly sneezed onto that tin can but that is unlikely to have happened."

    The Trinity lecturer believes that wearing gloves do little to protect people and in some cases increase the risk of transmission.

    She added: "Gloves can actually increase transmission risk. If we are touching stuff with gloves it is the exact same risk as without them on our hands.

    "It gives us a false sense of security and people take higher risks."

    Once you arrive home with the groceries, Ms Roberts doesn't think it's necessary to do a deep clean of items.

    The Trinity lecturer said: "When you come back into the house wash you hands straight away, I would then put the shopping away immediately.

    "Then I'd wash my hands again.

    "I wouldn't(wash down the tins and food) because I personally believe that the chances someone sneezed or coughed on them is very low.

    "But when I'm cooking I would wash my hands repeatedly.

    "The virus isn't destroyed by cold temperatures, so putting it in the fridge or freezer won't kill it, but cooking will.

    "The virus can theoretically survive on cardboard for up to 24 hours but that is very high dosages, normally it would be just a few hours."

    Change the colour:cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,740 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    Gods Gift wrote: »
    Claire loves lamp.


    ?


    Is this a Fr Ted reference as in



    'Fr jack loves brick' ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,760 ✭✭✭stockshares


    This Cosgrave fella is going to torpedo any future business he wants to do in Ireland, in the future, with his witless stupidity.

    He's a grade A clown.

    Was he not forced to move his Tech expo to Portugal because the gov wouldn't support it or am I confusing him with someone else. He seems bitter.


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