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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,410 ✭✭✭Westernyelp


    The absurdity of this whole thing laid bare is once inside a supermarket, it's a free-for-all. Did you just touch my packet of easy singles, oh sorry! Oh don't worry the bloke that's been working here all morning picked up the box, and the person after him did the same, after wiping their nose and not realising and then we came in and haha! Covid!

    wipe down your shopping after. simple


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    Surely in most cases, there are two outcomes from visiting hospital? Or in fact, visiting anything? You come out, or you don't?



    This isn't most cases

    "In most cases" you don't have a pandemic attempting to overwhelm your capacity to treat people.

    The level of care therefore that can be afforded to everyone i that case scenario greatly diminishes your outcome.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,826 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Think too we need to not think too much of the future and focus on our day to day responsibilities... the expertises and informed views of the medical people are really the only worthwhile views worth consuming when it comes to any future impact of a return of the virus.


    For now let’s remain vigilant, keep disciplined, keep distancing and keep the faith. Normality will resume fairly sooon..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭timmy_mallet


    wipe down your shopping after. simple

    Pick up yer easy singles, rub your ruddy Irish face with your thick fingers before you get the chance to wipe it clean. CORONA!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,922 ✭✭✭GM228


    STB. wrote: »
    COVID cases

    20th March 17 cases in ICU
    24th March 47 cases in ICU

    25th March 59 cases in ICU
    26th March 67 cases in ICU
    27th March 77 cases in ICU
    28th March 84 cases in ICU
    29th March 88 cases in ICU
    30th March 84 cases in ICU

    The ICU figures go up because they are critical cases requiring ICU beds.

    The only way you will see ICU figures go down is if people recover or die.

    Ok, so I had a typo for two days out of 31 (now corrected), the last officially reported and published numbers by the DoH are for up to the 28th and by the HPSC for up to the 29th which shows 79 ICU admissions as of the 29th @ 15.00, up from 77 on the 27th.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,456 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard



    Da fcuk. Any truth or proof for him to back up a claim like that????

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭timmy_mallet


    STB. wrote: »
    This isn't most cases

    "In most cases" you don't have a pandemic attempting to overwhelm your capacity to treat people.

    The level of care therefore that can be afforded to everyone i that case scenario greatly diminishes your outcome.

    You either come out of ICU, or you don't.
    You either come out of McDonalds, or you don't.
    You either come home from Hillsborough, or you don't.

    The pandemic is irrelevant to the quantity of potential outcomes of doing or visiting anything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,712 ✭✭✭Hrududu



    Honest to god are you actually Paddy? You’re forever posting his tweets.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.




    Why hasn't this been reported in the media?

    Catastrophe of epic proportions. The numbers infected are well over 500 now for healthcare workers. Extreme failure to protect frontline workers.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,596 ✭✭✭tigger123


    Was it confirmed 4 nurses have died?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,410 ✭✭✭Westernyelp


    Pick up yer easy singles, rub your ruddy Irish face with your thick fingers before you get the chance to wipe it clean. CORONA!

    Apologies. I thought I was talking to an intelligent person. carry on.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    tigger123 wrote: »
    Was it confirmed 4 nurses have died?

    Nope


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,826 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Self publicity is all he is after. Like 90% of these attention seeking twatter merchants..an absolute dose... now really isn’t the time. Don’t retweet or share,starve him of the oxygen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,758 ✭✭✭BrianD3


    STB. wrote: »
    Brian they are the same thing, however badly worded you think it is.
    We have this thing called the English language where changing some words changes the meaning. No, "total...that have been" and "are currently" are absolutely not the same thing.
    he even says it could have went up.
    We know that, it's stating the obvious.
    I posted the steady increase in ICU numbers a few posts before yours. Do you not understand their relevance. Do you think people are being admitted to ICU to get their teeth cleaned, off you go thanks a lot.
    Spare me that rubbish.
    We have 500 ICU beds in the whole country spread everywhere
    We don't know how many beds there are. They keep fudging the number.


  • Posts: 24,713 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    STB. wrote: »
    Yes I watched it. What did you not understand ?

    84. Yes that may have increased Holohan says.

    Do you think they just go in for 24 hours and are released back somewhere else. There are currently 84 in ICU BEDS. There were 88 at the weekend.

    The totals for ICU are the numbers in ICU at anyone time as a result of Covid19. These are the serious cases, Brian.

    You are wrong, and you are getting angry about others correcting you.

    Since the start every icu number given has been the total cumulative figure. This is clearly written in the reports and he clearly stated it tonight that 84 is the total number who have needed icu.

    We have no idea of the number ICU tonight but it’s almost certainly less than the numbers stated as cumulative.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,596 ✭✭✭tigger123


    Stheno wrote: »
    Nope

    Paddy Cosgrave seems to be implying that the HSE is suppressing this information. Can't see what they would have to gain by doing so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    GM228 wrote: »
    Ok, so I had a typo for two days out of 31 (now corrected), the last officially reported and published numbers by the DoH are for up to the 28th and by the HPSC for up to the 29th which shows 79 ICU admissions as of the 29th, up from 77 on the 27th.


    I'm not having a go. I just noticed GM, as I know it prompted more decisive action. There is genuine worry among frontline HSE staff at the rapid rise in ICU numbers in a week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,591 ✭✭✭munsterlegend


    tigger123 wrote: »
    Paddy Cosgrave seems to be implying that the HSE is suppressing this information. Can't see what they would have to gain by doing so.

    Well it’s hardly good for staff morale if it’s true. He is obviously getting his information from some source and would surely be certain before tweeting it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,402 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    I thought it was 11% tonight?

    It was indeed 11% tonight : I think the stats guy said an average of 15% over the last five days


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,063 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 326 ✭✭laurah591



    Is there any source for this? or additional knowledge


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,596 ✭✭✭tigger123


    Well it’s hardly good for staff morale if it’s true. He is obviously getting his information from some source and would surely be certain before tweeting it.

    How could the HSE stop the nurses families from talking to the media, or talking on social media about what happened?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,922 ✭✭✭GM228


    Strazdas wrote: »
    It was indeed 11% tonight : I think the stats guy said an average of 15% over the last five days

    11.28% tongiht.

    I didn't give the average for the last 5 days, but it is currently 13.27% average for the last 5 days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,393 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    Well it’s hardly good for staff morale if it’s true. He is obviously getting his information from some source and would surely be certain before tweeting it.

    A lot of his tweets have been less than fruitful lately


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,402 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Strumms wrote: »
    Self publicity is all he is after. Like 90% of these attention seeking twatter merchants..an absolute dose... now really isn’t the time. Don’t retweet or share,starve him of the oxygen.

    He's bang out of order. He has no right to be using his Twitter account as a platform like this. The guy is an event organiser.....his constant attacks on the Govt and the HSE in the middle of a pandemic are a disgrace.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77 ✭✭RiseAbove4


    What age was the HSE worker who’s been confirmed as dead? And had they underlying conditions?

    Also;

    There needs to be one seperate thread focussing on daily numbers of deaths, cases, recoveries, ICU numbers etc

    These main “just throw all the daily stuff in there, be grand” are an absolute clusterfùck of blurriness

    The speed these threads move at is ridiculous and need to be split up into more seperate threads of discussion


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,210 ✭✭✭Mervyn Skidmore


    ZX7R wrote: »
    A lot of his tweets have been less than fruitful lately

    I did like his grovelling apology to Denis O'Brien.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    You are wrong, and you are getting angry about others correcting you.

    Since the start every icu number given has been the total cumulative figure. This is clearly written in the reports and he clearly stated it tonight that 84 is the total number who have needed icu.

    We have no idea of the number ICU tonight but it’s almost certainly less than the numbers stated as cumulative.

    It is you that is wrong. The only number that the HSE are watching right now is the demands on ICU beds from Covid19 at that moment in time.

    It is the number of Covid patients who need ICU beds at this moment in time. On the 20th it was 17. It has gradually increased to 88. Some died. It is now 84 in ICU receiving treatment. Critical cases.

    "Have needed" Do you think people are turned around in 24 hours, off you go ? Let me spell it out for you.

    Intensive Care Unit. Critical care. We have 500 ICU beds. 84 right now taken up by Covid19 patients. Other patients without Covid19 share ICU capacity out of the 500 beds available.



    Don't respond again. You haven't a breeze.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 208 ✭✭1wizards sleeve


    Strazdas wrote: »
    He's bang out of order. He has no right to be using his Twitter account as a platform like this. The guy is an event organiser.....his constant attacks on the Govt and the HSE in the middle of a pandemic are a disgrace.

    And everything he says getting retweeted by Luke Flanagan. Who for some reason seems annoyed at any positive news. His bias and hate for the government is very obvious which is no surprise. Nothing but negativity out of him..


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