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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP**

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  • #1142
    Marsden35
    Site Banned Posts: 93 ✭✭Marsden35


    Strazdas wrote: »
    I believe they were in fact? I'm sure I read they took a unilateral decision to ban all visitors about three weeks ago.

    3 weeks ago we knew all about the seriousness of this. Should have been a lot earlier.

    Very emotive subject though as many residents don't have a long time left and telling their family they can't visit for weeks/months on end is pretty hard.


  • #1143
    Martina1991
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,548 ✭✭✭Martina1991


    cameramonkey wrote: »
    Thanks for your answer.But is a very poor excuse I think.

    Thanks for the email but I am sure they have more important things to do so I will leave them at it.
    Maybe you can offer your services to the Department of Health if you think the organisation and operation of a national service is basic.

    You understand a customer support service has more important things to do during a pandemic, but you want accurate daily updates from across the country because in your opinion, they are not good enough.
    MrMusician18 wrote: »
    They haven't been clear at all on the ICU bed numbers available and that needs to improve.

    When they were talking about it previously I think they meant covid ICU, or rather pseudo ICU beds that could be set up with the specific equipment to support covid patients.

    I haven't been one to criticise the response generally, but communication on beds and need numbers has been poor and sometimes contradictory.

    The arguments for testing numbers could also be applied to the ICU bed capacity.

    It's hard to get an accurate daily number of how many beds we have because it is constantly changing.

    Whatever our capacity was before has increased in most hospitals across the country. Wards have transformed and dedicated to Covid patients. That number may be effected by limited resources like ventilators, lack of PPE or staff falling ill and needing isolation.
    And we will still have cases that require intensive care that do not have Covid. That will effect the numbers too.


    The numbers that are released by the Department of Health each day/week are all we have to go on.
    That may not be good enough for some people but that's all we have and I trust them.


  • #1144
    Tandey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,431 ✭✭✭Tandey


    gmisk wrote: »
    Right...how did he get a test with mild symptoms...

    It’s tubs innit.


  • #1145
    callaway92
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,132 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    take everything wrote: »
    That RTE reporter, Sean Whelan, looks sick to me

    Thanks, Doc


  • #1146
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Strazdas wrote: »
    I believe they were in fact? I'm sure I read they took a unilateral decision to ban all visitors about three weeks ago.

    Unfortunately staff are a major vector to bring infection in (even with the best of intention).


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  • #1147
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/1244676995390361602?s=20


  • #1148
    statesaver
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭statesaver


    take everything wrote: »
    Anyway be know how many new cases today

    We'll find out at 7pm.


  • #1149
    YFlyer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    Fair play, that's his perogative. Do you have an issue or what?

    I don't see the benefit.


  • #1150
    voluntary
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 871 ✭✭✭voluntary


    Beasty wrote: »
    When they said "now", they didn't mean "now", them meant "then" (or 7pm in time language)

    Alas this prediction cannot be guaranteed, and indeed it won't be "now", may not be "then" as it could be "later"

    "Time" will tell


    ":pac:"

    Can't they stick to one time a day or at least re-play recordings at a set time of a day, let's say 9 pm or so? I'd like to watch these briefings but I usually miss them.

    Plus, why not put them up in the RTE player app for watching?


  • #1151
    Strazdas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,405 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Marsden35 wrote: »
    3 weeks ago we knew all about the seriousness of this. Should have been a lot earlier.

    Very emotive subject though as many residents don't have a long time left and telling their family they can't visit for weeks/months on end is pretty hard.

    I think they moved pretty early....a nursing home would be an obvious hotspot for any pandemic and were always going to be hit


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  • #1152
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,206 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1244677784330473472


  • #1153
    marilynrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 763 ✭✭✭marilynrr


    Hermy wrote: »
    The thing about other age related issues is they are not contagious.

    If they don't adhere to the guidelines to stay indoors then it may be a sad end to many peoples lives.

    Yes but I'm talking about after the initial lockdown is over.
    People including vunerable and elderly people should have the choice to go out and take that risk. They may catch covid-19 and pass it on, but that will be to others who also wanted to take the chance and just try to live out the rest of their life as normal as possible.


    There should be very strict procedures in place to protect those who want to be cocooned.


  • #1154
    Hermy
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,606 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    YFlyer wrote: »
    Housemate uses lab grade gloves when he is making his meals.

    He should wash his hands before preparing food and send the gloves where they're needed most.

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • #1155
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,458 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    voluntary wrote: »
    Can't they stick to one time a day or at least re-play recordings at a set time of a day, let's say 9 pm or so? I'd like to watch these briefings but I usually miss them.

    Plus, why not put them up in the RTE player app for watching?

    Those are very good questions, to which I have no answers

    Sorry...


  • #1156
    blackcard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,334 ✭✭✭blackcard


    take everything wrote: »
    Anyway be know how many new cases today

    Tony Holohan


  • #1157
    ZX7R
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,393 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    Lavinia wrote: »
    Apparently he is already over with it, had very mild symptoms and already recovered

    I wonder if rte are paying there wages while out sick


  • #1158
    Marsden35
    Site Banned Posts: 93 ✭✭Marsden35


    France taking a hit today. 418 deaths. They actually have a higher proportion of patients in critical condition than Italy.


  • #1159
    New Home
    Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 78,248 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    marilynrr wrote: »
    Yes but I'm talking about after the initial lockdown is over.
    People including vunerable and elderly people should have the choice to go out and take that risk. They may catch covid-19 and pass it on, but that will be to others who also wanted to take the chance and just try to live out the rest of their life as normal as possible.

    There should be very strict procedures in place to protect those who want to be cocooned.

    You do realise that being old and being happy with dying from Covid doesn't stop you from infecting other people, right? And that irrespective of what people might want for themselves (be it sticking to their running routine or meet their friends and relatives), if they catch it they will increase the burden on the health system, and cause untold grief to the people they care about and those who care about them?

    I do hate the word "cocooning", though.


  • #1160
    Breaston Plants
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 774 ✭✭✭Breaston Plants


    ZX7R wrote: »
    I wonder if rte are paying there wages while out sick

    No, he's living on the €350 a week dole.ðŸ˜


  • #1161
    realrebel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 290 ✭✭realrebel


    Doctors room ghost wrote: »
    Ironic to see tubs getting tested live on late late to show the nation not to worry and stressing his test wouldn’t be sent away as not to be wasting resources and he came up positive after all.
    Wish him a speedy recovery.

    How did he get test results back so quickly
    My brother in law and another fella got tested 10 days ago and heard nothing back


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  • #1162
    Musefan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Musefan


    Lavinia wrote: »
    no idea.

    i only read the news here and so thats whats said

    Is it possible he was tested before criteria changed?


  • #1163
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,206 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Marsden35 wrote: »
    France taking a hit today. 418 deaths. They actually have a higher proportion of patients in critical condition than Italy.

    And that's only counting hospital settings.

    Outside hospitals is not included for some bizarre reason no one can understand.


  • #1164
    saabsaab
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,740 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    I was critical of RTE news not covering this enough a few threads back but it seems to be all corona now, too much I'd say.


  • #1165
    ZX7R
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,393 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    Breaston Plants wrote: »
    No, he's living on the €350 a week dole.ðŸ˜

    I wish


  • #1166
    Marsden35
    Site Banned Posts: 93 ✭✭Marsden35


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    And that's only counting hospital settings.

    Outside hospitals is not included for some bizarre reason no one can understand.

    How do you mean? presumably if you're critical then you're in hospital, no?


  • #1167
    Hermy
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,606 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    marilynrr wrote: »
    Yes but I'm talking about after the initial lockdown is over.
    People including vunerable and elderly people should have the choice to go out and take that risk. They may catch covid-19 and pass it on, but that will be to others who also wanted to take the chance and just try to live out the rest of their life as normal as possible.

    But every person who gets sick just now, whether from Covid-19 or anything else, becomes another demand on a health system almost at breaking point.

    These restrictions are not there to cater for the individual - they are there to protect the populace as a whole.

    Any person who doesn't adhere to them is putting others at risk, especially those front-line workers who have no choice but to leave home to provide for the rest of us.

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • #1168
    New Home
    Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 78,248 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    Marsden35 wrote: »
    How do you mean? presumably if you're critical then you're in hospital, no?

    Not if you're over a certain age, it's not guaranteed at all.


  • #1169
    rossie1977
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,442 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    NY State is in big trouble. They have more cases now than anywhere else on Earth except Italy, China and Spain and on current trajectory will pass out China by end of the week, Spain by the weekend and Italy next week.

    At approximately 20 million population it's alot smaller than the aforementioned mentioned countries and only has 3,000 ICU beds to deal with what will be over 100,000 cases next week.


  • #1170
    davedanon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,062 ✭✭✭davedanon


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Plus addiction, depression, anxiety, poor nutrition, a general deterioration in public health, and no money to give to the health services in a banjaxed economy. Can you quantify increased deaths related to those?

    It's funny. The people clamouring for the economy to be saved and people not be cooped up for weeks to the detriment of their mental health might well be characterised as 'of the right', politically. Yet their concern doesn't extend to prisoners. They want longer sentences for them, and fewer 'luxuries', like tellies etc. Stuff that helps mental health for those in confinement.

    Funny that.


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  • #1171
    makeandcreate
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 451 ✭✭makeandcreate


    marilynrr wrote: »
    Yes but I'm talking about after the initial lockdown is over.
    People including vunerable and elderly people should have the choice to go out and take that risk. They may catch covid-19 and pass it on, but that will be to others who also wanted to take the chance and just try to live out the rest of their life as normal as possible.


    There should be very strict procedures in place to protect those who want to be cocooned.

    The stats show they are more likely to need hospitalisation/ventilators/ICU beds - cocooning all over 70's gives more hospital capacity for younger patients. Will they have a "no treatment if infected" disclaimer? Or once infected will they expect treatment?


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