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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP**

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Is anyone watching RTE? Some ancient woman getting a happy birthday outdoors but there were a few dozen OAPs within a big sneeze of one another


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,210 ✭✭✭Mervyn Skidmore


    https://twitter.com/hemantmehta/status/1244344119545208834

    Phew, it's all over. Why didn't they get this guy involved months ago?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    22 nursing home outbreaks is appalling.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    dePeatrick wrote: »
    Yes but is it herd immunity while on lockdown and practicing social distancing? Afaik Herd immunity is only possible with a vacinne. There are also still unknowns about this virus, it could mutate into something more deadly (unlikely) How immune people are to it afterwards and for how long? Is there long term damage done to organs that can lead to complications afterwards?

    Al valid points. But if antibody tests show that many people have had it and have been symptom free, then it would suggest that additional restrictions of movement are not required....that the spread is being effectively managed, within the capacity of the NHS to handle the critical cases.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,302 ✭✭✭Allinall


    I work in a big supermarket chain, and it's been just as busy if not busier today than any other Monday. Fake lockdown.

    The same number of groceries need to be bought. Probably more, given that more people are at home.

    No fake lockdown. No lockdown anyway.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,783 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    I work in a big supermarket chain, and it's been just as busy if not busier today than any other Monday. Fake lockdown.

    How is it a fake lockdown? Supermarkets are one of the few places that people can go to.
    Makes sense to me that they are busy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,774 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    RTE has to be one of the clusters now.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,480 ✭✭✭bloodless_coup


    I work in a big supermarket chain, and it's been just as busy if not busier today than any other Monday. Fake lockdown.

    Sure the only place you can go is to the supermarket. Not surprising.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    Do we need to be informed on the Rte news that Tubridy has contacted the virus?

    Has Ryan been diagnosed with the virus?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    I understand the point. I disagree with it. If people arbitrarily ignore expert advice then vulnerable people will die. Just a fact. Do I trust the HSE/government to balance the needs of vulnerable people with people's frustration and the economy? I do simply because they have more expertise and facts than anyone else.
    Agree with you simply because there is no alternative, not political point, believe that an Irish government of any colour or kaleidoscope of colours, would be following WHO, ECD, HSE, CMO, Dept. Health guidelines and advice, maybe faster/slower, harsher/gentler.

    What has been concerning all along is the prevailing culture in the last three getting in the way, together with the tendency to value announcement over delivery.

    That said, was more reassured by the greater confidence and openness displayed in the latest briefing.

    Only wish a decision had been made initially to created a parallel and physically separate care system to treat COVID-19 patients.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,394 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    RugbyLad11 wrote: »
    Also one important thing to note is that China has fantastic online delivery infrastructure. You can order from a restaurant and it will be at your door in 20 mins or less. Or you can order from their versions of Amazon you can get the item in the evening if you order it in the morning, so it is a lot easier to stay at home in China.

    Now compare the above with Ireland...I tried to order something on boots and I had to sit in a virtual queue for 10 hours and when I finally got in everything I needed was sold out, I then ordered stuff on Amazon and it is gonna take about 2 weeks

    That's so tough. I can only imagine the stress you must be under. The virus has really hit you hard.


  • Posts: 2,016 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    davedanon wrote: »
    ."piece by a stroppy Irish Times lesbian....probably hates the entire Western Way of Life"

    A bit harsh on your colleague there, Dave!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,525 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Ryan Tubridy confirmed he has it....I wonder how long he had to wait for his test and results...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 309 ✭✭Tootsie_1


    Any idea what time the briefing is on at ? I thought 5.45pm ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,839 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    This is it wrote: »
    We've all seen the images of Dublin, Limerick, Cork, motorways, etc. empty. Fake lockdown me arse.




    There’s an awful lot of people out and about today froggy.roads and shops v busy in Galway according to people I was talking to


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,347 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    It’s not just suicide. It’s increased deaths through addiction, depression, anxiety, poor nutrition, poor public health, and an even more poorly funded health service

    That’s a very hard effect to quantify though. Coronavirus killing thousands fits in a headline much easier.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Is anyone watching RTE? Some ancient woman getting a happy birthday outdoors but there were a few dozen OAPs within a big sneeze of one another
    She is 104!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,325 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    gmisk wrote: »
    Ryan Tubridy confirmed he has it....I wonder how long he had to wait for his test and results...

    A few days for the result, I'd imagine


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 657 ✭✭✭I Am The Law


    josip wrote: »
    "Winston Wolfe to Aisle 7."

    You callin' the Wolf? That was all you had to say MF.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    Allinall wrote: »
    The same number of groceries need to be bought. Probably more, given that more people are at home.

    No fake lockdown. No lockdown anyway.

    Increase in food waste been dumped.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Tootsie_1 wrote: »
    Any idea what time the briefing is on at ? I thought 5.45pm ?
    7.00 now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,011 ✭✭✭growleaves


    Have you read the posts or threads on here about people who have elderly parents who don't want to stay in?

    A lot of them hate this and would rather just take their chances, and think that it would be far worse to be locked up in their homes not able to see anyone when they might not have many months or years left in their lives anyway.

    People act like it's for their own good, but do the elderly or vulnerable not get a say in it? Are we not going to take into consideration what some elderly people actually want?

    If this goes on until June/July then unfortunately some elderly people will die from other age related issues and for their last few months the option for their family to see them, for them to hold their great grandchildren or lots of little things that are important to them will be taken away from them! They might have been saved from covid-19 but it's a very sad end to their days.

    I'm quoting this again so more people will see it.

    The extreme reductionism of discontinuing every aspect of life - basic direct human contact, marriages, families, friends, colleagues, harmless or beneficial sunshine and fresh air, contact with nature (not just 'the economy', though people also need money to live) - along with the vilification of those (very few) people with a differing opinion is the maddest thing I've seen in my life.

    Even reasonable requests to find out how many amongst the general population have the virus through sampling have been met with scorn, as if basic scientific inquiry is now considered a fringe activity. Disease specialists from the University of Mainz and Oxford University are dismissed as cranks by posters who don't even understand what "exponential" means. Something is very wrong here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,405 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    RobertKK wrote: »
    RTE has to be one of the clusters now.

    They have very strict social distancing rules in studio now. They had no studio guests at all on This Week on Radio 1 on Sunday for example.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,491 ✭✭✭Ninthlife


    https://twitter.com/hemantmehta/status/1244344119545208834

    Phew, it's all over. Why didn't they get this guy involved months ago?

    That was the Christian equivalent of a traveller call out video


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭RugbyLad11


    That's so tough. I can only imagine the stress you must be under. The virus has really hit you hard.

    Don't you understand. If we had good online shopping infrastructure people could get their shopping online and no need to go to the supermarket.

    I tried to order shopping on Supervalue and Tesco but they have no delivery slots available for the next 2 weeks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭Antares35


    scamalert wrote: »
    most people wont even wait till end of April to get back to normal so dont imagine after these measures anyone will be taking much more time off, for ifs and maybes.

    I'm not imagining anything, I wouldn't be so arrogant as to assume to know what will happen in the next few days never mind weeks, especially now.

    I just think it is an incredibly weak argument to suggest that we should avoid asking people to stay at home to stop the spread of a fatal disease, on the basis that some of those people might kill themselves. If someone is suicidal because of a 2 week stay at home period then they clearly already have underlying issues, and that should be addressed as a discrete issue and not in the context of whether we should be staying at home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,102 ✭✭✭Lavinia


    gmisk wrote: »
    Ryan Tubridy confirmed he has it....I wonder how long he had to wait for his test and results...
    Apparently he is already over with it, had very mild symptoms and already recovered
    Ryan Tubridy said; “Like so many other people in Ireland, I tested positive but I was in the very fortunate position to have a very unintrusive experience, which I now have come to the end of.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    I work in a big supermarket chain, and it's been just as busy if not busier today than any other Monday. Fake lockdown.

    People will need to do a food shop. I don't see a problem with allowing people do a grocery shop. It makes sense how some people might avoid going shopping during a weekend to avoid potential crowds and aim for early or midweek shopping instead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    22 nursing homes oh my god, Ireland will have such a high death rate compared to most countries


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,214 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    He's a public figure. Has his fans too.

    Tubots


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