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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP**

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  • #1112
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    froog wrote: »
    22 nursing home outbreaks is appalling.

    ****ing disgraceful. Where were the controls ffs.

    Does anyone remember a poster in one of the other threads who had a friend that worked in a nursing home and was out on the piss 2 nights in a row before the Sunday night the pubs were closed down. The poster wrote of their concern at their friends not give a **** attitude.

    Hope that poster gives their friend loads of it.


  • #1113
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,458 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Mental Mickey wrote: »
    What time is the DoH briefing on at?

    There is a sticky with the time in the thread title - it's updated every day


  • #1114
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,154 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    wakka12 wrote: »
    22 nursing homes oh my god, Ireland will have such a high death rate compared to most countries

    Every other country has major clusters in nursing and care homes.


  • #1115
    kingshankly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,019 ✭✭✭kingshankly


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    ****ing disgraceful. Where we're the controls ffs.

    Most of these have been brought in by staff need to be testing all Carers


  • #1116
    take everything
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,847 ✭✭✭take everything


    That RTE reporter, Sean Whelan, looks sick to me


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  • #1117
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,208 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Lavinia wrote: »
    Apparently he is already over with it, had very mild symptoms and already recovered

    14 days self isolation first then 14 days quarantine but Tubs and Prince Charles all better and out already?
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  • #1118
    Gynoid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭Gynoid


    Lavinia wrote: »
    Apparently he is already over with it, had very mild symptoms and already recovered

    Good. Send him to work on a production line making essential medical stuff.


  • #1119
    Lavinia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,102 ✭✭✭Lavinia


    MadYaker wrote: »
    That’s a very hard effect to quantify though. Coronavirus killing thousands fits in a headline much easier.
    suicides are not hard to quanitify, in ireland over 300 people die from suicide every year so it means more than 1 per day.. so statistically it would mean that about 90 people lost their life in ireland already this year alone..


  • #1120
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,458 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Strazdas wrote: »
    Yes, why not? If someone like Graham Norton or Ant & Dec contracted it in the UK, you would expect their respective broadcasters to announce it
    Probably because it's already been reported 47* times in this thread...

    (*yes it's a bit of an exaggeration:pac:)


  • #1121
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    Gynoid wrote: »
    Good. Send him to work on a production line making essential medical stuff.

    Better off helping in a hospital.


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  • #1122
    Seamai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    marilynrr wrote: »
    Completely agree. It can't go on that long and will cause so many problems.

    There are spouses and children in abusive homes right now, locked in with their abusers. There's people who were probably on the verge of ending relationships and they're now stuck where they are. That must be mental torture.

    Even for the people who are in non abusive households there is a big problem with mental health issues in this country, this will make those worse in some cases...there will be even mentally healthy people who develop mental health issues because of it.

    We will without a doubt see suicides or murder suicides if this goes on long term.

    It's also not fair on the elderly and vulnerable. Not all of them want to be locked up. Some of them might not have very many months or years left in their lives and may resent being told they have to stay in for their own sakes to prolong their lives. Some will want to carry on and take their chances, rather than spending their last few months in their homes, not allowed to see their great grandchildren, even visits to the window are not allowed anymore.

    So what exactly are you saying? Get rid of the lockdown and we'll take our chances, good luck with that one. The current lockdown isn't a bundle of laughs for anyone. I think I'd rather a bit of short term pain for long term gain. A lot of the situations above existed before COVID-19, you make it sound like we're imprisoning the elderly, what about the elderly who'se families don't give a damn about them and rarely if ever visit them?


  • #1123
    Marsden35
    Site Banned Posts: 93 ✭✭Marsden35


    Nursing homes should have been the first to lock down. I'm happy to say that the nursing home my mother works in was locked down fairly sharpish. Still a risk with the care workers going in and out obviously, but no visitors allowed.

    My mother said if Corona got into the home it would just burn through it in days.

    There was a norovirus outbreak (winter vomiting bug) a couple of years back and it took out 8 of the residents in a week.


  • #1124
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,208 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    wakka12 wrote: »
    22 nursing homes oh my god, Ireland will have such a high death rate compared to most countries

    Considering the restrictions on visitors from early March, is it staff infected?

    Are these private or public homes? Or does that matter now, high clusters in these god love them all and their worried families
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  • #1125
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    Lavinia wrote: »
    suicides are not hard to quanitify, in ireland over 300 people die from suicide every year so it means more than 1 per day.. so statistically it would mean that about 90 people lost their life in ireland already this year alone..

    Plus addiction, depression, anxiety, poor nutrition, a general deterioration in public health, and no money to give to the health services in a banjaxed economy. Can you quantify increased deaths related to those?


  • #1126
    Roger_007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,886 ✭✭✭✭Roger_007


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Al valid points. But if antibody tests show that many people have had it and have been symptom free, then it would suggest that additional restrictions of movement are not required....that the spread is being effectively managed, within the capacity of the NHS to handle the critical cases.

    It’s not as simple as that. If it turns out that 10% of the population have the antibodies, what then?
    Also there is no certainty that having the antibodies gives absolute immunity, and if it does, how long for?
    We really know very little about this virus.


  • #1127
    MonkieSocks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,393 ✭✭✭MonkieSocks


    But how reliable is the test.

    Wifes great Aunt (89) got a fall and was taken into hospital a week ago.

    She was taken in ICU and put on oxyegen and tested for COVID-19

    The test was negative and she was moved to a Normal Ward.


    6 days after the first test, she had a high temperature and breathing difficulties.

    They tested her again and the test was positive for COVID-19 and now she's back In ICU

    So either first was wrong or she got it in the hospital.

    Very very worrying

    =(:-) Me? I know who I am. I'm a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude (-:)=



  • #1128
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,523 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Lavinia wrote: »
    Apparently he is already over with it, had very mild symptoms and already recovered
    Right...how did he get a test with mild symptoms...


  • #1129
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    MonkieSocks wrote: »
    But how reliable is the test.

    Wifes great Aunt (89) got a fall and was taken into hospital a week ago.

    She was taken in ICU and put on oxyegen and tested for COVID-19

    The test was negative and she was moved to a Normal Ward.


    6 days after the first test, she had a high temperature and breathing difficulties.

    They tested her again and the test was positive for COVID-19 and now she's back In ICU

    So either first was wrong or she got it in the hospital.

    Very very worrying

    It's already been said before, if in the early stages the test is done there is not always enough virus payload to register a positive.


  • #1130
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    Roger_007 wrote: »
    It’s not as simple as that. If it turns out that 10% of the population have the antibodies, what then?
    Also there is no certainty that having the antibodies gives absolute immunity, and if it does, how long for?
    We really know very little about this virus.

    The UK CMO has said that immunity might not be permanent but would last until vaccines are available. It is certainly being held out there by the medics as a positive contributory factor in the decisions to be made around when to release restrictions


  • #1131
    marilynrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 763 ✭✭✭marilynrr


    Seamai wrote: »
    So what exactly are you saying? Get rid of the lockdown and we'll take our chances, good luck with that one. The current lockdown isn't a bundle of laughs for anyone. I think I'd rather a bit of short term pain for long term gain. A lot of the situations above existed before COVID-19, you make it sound like we're imprisoning the elderly, what about the elderly who'se families don't give a damn about them and rarely if ever visit them?


    No I think we go through this current lockdown to try to flatten the curve, ease up on restrictions slowly then and take our chances from there.

    You might rather a bit of short term pain for long term gain, but there are people out there in their 80s and 90s who might not have long left and might want to take their chances with the virus. There is no 'long term' for them. This is close to their end of life as it is. A very strict lockdown might prolong life, but at what cost to their quality of life? It should be individual choice. For the vulnerable who want to be cocooned then systems should be put in place for that. For those who don't, then they should be allowed to live their life as they wish.

    It is imprisoning the elderly, family members are not even allowed to go and see them through the windows anymore, they must be devastated.

    And absolutely there are elderly who have families who don't give a damn about them, and it's extremely sad and heartbreaking, that doesn't mean that it's ok to take the family visits away from the ones who do have that!


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  • #1132
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,523 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Gynoid wrote: »
    Good. Send him to work on a production line making essential medical stuff.
    That is pretty cruel....no one should have to forcibly put up with Ryan Tubridy and his inane chat.


  • #1133
    jackboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,034 ✭✭✭jackboy


    MonkieSocks wrote: »
    But how reliable is the test.

    Wifes great Aunt (89) got a fall and was taken into hospital a week ago.

    She was taken in ICU and put on oxyegen and tested for COVID-19

    The test was negative and she was moved to a Normal Ward.


    6 days after the first test, she had a high temperature and breathing difficulties.

    They tested her again and the test was positive for COVID-19 and now she's back In ICU

    So either first was wrong or she got it in the hospital.

    Very very worrying

    The virus load may have been too low for the first test. Or, it was a bad test or analysis. Or, she got infected in the hospital.


  • #1134
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,204 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1244665977083703299


  • #1135
    Lavinia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,102 ✭✭✭Lavinia


    gmisk wrote: »
    Right...how did he get a test with mild symptoms...
    no idea.

    i only read the news here and so thats whats said


  • #1136
    Strazdas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,404 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Marsden35 wrote: »
    Nursing homes should have been the first to lock down. I'm happy to say that the nursing home my mother works in was locked down fairly sharpish. Still a risk with the care workers going in and out obviously, but no visitors allowed.

    My mother said if Corona got into the home it would just burn through it in days.

    There was a norovirus outbreak (winter vomiting bug) a couple of years back and it took out 8 of the residents in a week.

    I believe they were in fact? I'm sure I read they took a unilateral decision to ban all visitors about three weeks ago.


  • #1137
    YFlyer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    Housemate uses lab grade gloves when he is making his meals.


  • #1138
    Beasty
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    is_that_so wrote: »
    7.00 now.

    When they said "now", they didn't mean "now", them meant "then" (or 7pm in time language)

    Alas this prediction cannot be guaranteed, and indeed it won't be "now", may not be "then" as it could be "later"

    "Time" will tell


    ":pac:"


  • #1139
    take everything
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,847 ✭✭✭take everything


    Anyone know how many new cases today


  • #1140
    Hermy
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,606 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    If this goes on until June/July then unfortunately some elderly people will die from other age related issues and for their last few months the option for their family to see them, for them to hold their great grandchildren or lots of little things that are important to them will be taken away from them! They might have been saved from covid-19 but it's a very sad end to their days.

    The thing about other age related issues is they are not contagious.

    If they don't adhere to the guidelines to stay indoors then it may be a sad end to many peoples lives.

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  • #1141
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    YFlyer wrote: »
    Housemate uses lab grade gloves when he is making his meals.

    Fair play, that's his perogative. Do you have an issue or what?


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