CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) Read OP

Ulysses Gaze · 30-03-2020 03:29PM

otnomart wrote: »

Measures currently in place until April 6 include the closure of schools, restaurants and museums (non essential shops remain open; religious ceremonies up to 30 people are still allowed)
https://nltimes.nl/2020/03/15/schools-cafes-businesses-closed-apr-6-coronavirus-spread-pm-address-nation

There measures are still geared towards herd immunity.
however, their cabinet will meet with experts and advisers tomorrow.
The press conference is expected at around 7:00 p.m. tomorrow.
https://nltimes.nl/2020/03/30/govt-extend-covid-19-measures-report

So they have **** the bed and Rutte will finally have to admit it.

Not as bad as Lukashenko in Belarus at least.

Although that is not saying much.

bekker · 30-03-2020 03:30PM

rossie1977 wrote: »

Hungary has been a fascist dictatorship for some time, these new laws just put cherry on the cake.

Please point out the fixed date sunset clause in the Health (Preservation and Protection and other Emergency Measures in the Public Interest) Act 2020, as I have been unable to find it online, only the Bill appears to be available. Clause 2.6 is ambiguous if that was the phraseology enacted

Not in support of Hungarian parliament's decision, not dictatorship as yet just effective one party majority yet.

Merely pointing out the the Bill put forward by the Irish caretaker government, though not as far reaching, was similarly open ended. It was opposition amendments that sought to insert a sunset clause.

poppers · 30-03-2020 03:30PM

wadacrack wrote: »

Seems to be lowering in the UK hopefully. What was England's count in the last 5 days?

Last 4 days
115
181
260
209

holyhead · 30-03-2020 03:32PM

Lads everything is going to be fine now. Miriam O'Callaghan has declared on the Rte website she has 'never known a time like this". Thank you Miriam for that profound piece of insight. How much are we paying her?

ShayNanigan · 30-03-2020 03:33PM

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Have you reported them to the Gardai?

I don't want to get into trouble with people. I sort of thought the Gardai would stop them at some point and fine them or something.

Who knows, maybe some of them are driving away to get tested for all I know. Just a bit irritating to see people carrying on like nothing while I've been at home for over two weeks.

Marsden35 · 30-03-2020 03:33PM

Good figures in from the UK, although there may be another batch later on so I'll hold off before getting too optimistic.

kilkenny31 · 30-03-2020 03:34PM

holyhead wrote: »

Lads everything is going to be fine now. Miriam O'Callaghan has declared on the Rte website she has 'never known a time like this". Thank you Miriam for that profound piece of insight. How much are we paying her?

S**t are you serious. Oh guys this is bad. I though this was nothing.

Martina1991 · 30-03-2020 03:34PM

TommyKnocker wrote: »

With all due respect but surely this cannot be correct as by restricting testing to those who have 2 or more symptoms we are missing a large chunk of people who are asymptomatic and only showing 1 symptom?

Did I not read on these threads that due to the number of people who presented to for testing when the criteria was reduced to a single symptom leading to a huge backlog that the HSE/Government tore up the backlog list and revised the criteria to require the 2 or more symptoms.

I understand the shortage of test kits, facilities to carry our and process the tests and the large number of negative tests, but surely if you want to test for asymptomatic carriers you need to testing all who present, no matter how mild their symptoms are?

The criteria was narrowed to try and detect more cases. Those with more severe symptoms and those in at risk groups have to be identified because they are most likely to need treatment and hospitalisation.

Why would asymtomatic people present for testing. Thats like looking for a needle in a haystack, when we should be looking for the virus in those that already appear to be infected.
Why waste limited resources on those who are most likely the ones who don't have it.

caveat emptor · 30-03-2020 03:34PM

https://twitter.com/AndyBiotech/status/1244418163741282308?s=20

Kermit.de.frog · 30-03-2020 03:35PM

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

So they have **** the bed and Rutte will finally have to admit it.

Countries that apply restrictions earliest are getting control quickest.

Ridiculous to see so much time wasted on ideology instead of following the WHO guidelines.

You don't want to be the last country standing with it out of control when everyone around you has it contained because no one will do business with you then.

quokula · 30-03-2020 03:35PM

bekker wrote: »

Please point out the fixed date sunset clause in the Health (Preservation and Protection and other Emergency Measures in the Public Interest) Act 2020, as I have been unable to find it online, only the Bill appears to be available. Clause 2.6 is ambiguous if that was the phraseology enacted

Not in support of Hungarian parliament's decision, not dictatorship as yet just effective one party majority yet.

Merely pointing out the the Bill put forward by the Irish caretaker government, though not as far reaching, was similarly open ended. It was opposition amendments that sought to insert a sunset clause.

"though not as far reaching" is a bit of an understatement.

Aside from that there's the clear history of Orban's government wanting to move in this direction, in comparison to our government that was accepting it would be going to opposition a couple of months ago but has had its hand forced by world events.

kowloon · 30-03-2020 03:36PM

Professor Moriarty · 30-03-2020 03:36PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Countries that apply restrictions earliest are getting control quickest.

Ridiculous to see so much time wasted on ideology instead of following the WHO guidelines.

You don't want to be the last country standing with it out of control when everyone around you has it contained because no one will do business with you then.

Keep a watchful eye on Sweden.

cameramonkey · 30-03-2020 03:36PM

Mallory Dead Self-confidence wrote: »

Was announced at one of the recent HSE press conferences we're processing 5k tests per day now.

When was that? because yesterday they said they were testing 5000 a day, have you a link? it would be encouraging if they were. It would be a good start.

Marsden35 · 30-03-2020 03:37PM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Keep a watchful eye on Sweden.

Turkey was very slow to act and they have an airport that's an international hub. I expect their cases to explode soon.

kilkenny31 · 30-03-2020 03:39PM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Keep a watchful eye on Sweden.

That what I'm doing. A similar country to Ireland in terms of population and density. I think they realise that too. They are different to larger European counties so can afford to take a different approach.

30-03-2020 03:40PM

holyhead wrote: »

Lads everything is going to be fine now. Miriam O'Callaghan has declared on the Rte website she has 'never known a time like this". Thank you Miriam for that profound piece of insight. How much are we paying her?

jasus not enough when she's offering pearls of wisdom like this.
I think a lot in the media are loving this to be honest, they're all trying
to out "ghoul" each other. In general most that work in that industry are scum anyway. Matt cooper must be soiling himself with all this too

Professor Moriarty · 30-03-2020 03:40PM

Marsden35 wrote: »

Turkey was very slow to act and they have an airport that's an international hub. I expect their cases to explode soon.

True. However, Sweden has much more resources than Turkey but has taken a deliberately lax attitude to containment. It might come back to bite them.

Ardent · 30-03-2020 03:41PM

Marsden35 wrote: »

Good figures in from the UK, although there may be another batch later on so I'll hold off before getting too optimistic.

I'm not optimisitic having just seen this latest example of social distancing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9X-VRaPHA8

Professor Moriarty · 30-03-2020 03:42PM

kilkenny31 wrote: »

That what I'm doing. A similar country to Ireland in terms of population and density. I think they realise that too. They are different to larger European counties so can afford to take a different approach.

It's very much out of step. I'd rather our response than theirs.

flatface · 30-03-2020 03:42PM

kilkenny31 wrote: »

Come on. That is a reassuring statistic. Overall they reckon that 1% of people that get the virus will die. Now they are saying only 2% of people that die will have no underlying condition. So for every ten thousand people that get it 100 will die of those 100 people only two of them will not have had an underlying condition.

depends what the scope of an underlying condition is. There are 380,000 odd asthma sufferers in Ireland, including me, which "have a medical condition that can affect your breathing". I wonder would we be classified as having an underlying condition

sydthebeat · 30-03-2020 03:43PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

https://twitter.com/AndyBiotech/status/1244418163741282308?s=20

Or we could ask people to cough and sneeze into their elbows...

Same result without removing PPE from front line workers

sonofenoch · 30-03-2020 03:44PM

dePeatrick wrote: »

Spain reported correct figures on the 1918 flu unlike most other countries, is it possible they are doing the same again?

And it was called Spanish flu because their media were ably free to report on it being neutral in WW1 .....not because they were particularly hit hard by it

Marsden35 · 30-03-2020 03:46PM

Ardent wrote: »

I'm not optimisitic having just seen this latest example of social distancing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9X-VRaPHA8

I find it hard to believe they're all essential workers :rolleyes:

But to be fair to them the government guidelines are to work from home if you can. There isn't a ban on people working, although many companies have voluntarily shut up shop.

caveat emptor · 30-03-2020 03:48PM

https://twitter.com/ColinDevit/status/1244627754190082048?s=20

AdrianG08 · 30-03-2020 03:51PM

Marsden35 wrote: »

I find it hard to believe they're all essential workers :rolleyes:

But to be fair to them the government guidelines are to work from home if you can. There isn't a ban on people working, although many companies have voluntarily shut up shop.

Exactly, if people have jobs to go to and they can't work from home then its fair enough.

Not hard to believe these people work in essential services either.

OscarMIlde · 30-03-2020 03:51PM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

It's very much out of step. I'd rather our response than theirs.

It rather brings to mind their embrace of eugenics during the 1930s.

caveat emptor · 30-03-2020 03:51PM

https://twitter.com/QuickTake/status/1244635558590263296?s=20

Mwengwe · 30-03-2020 03:51PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

https://twitter.com/AndyBiotech/status/1244418163741282308?s=20

So just exhaling is enough to infect someone?

wakka12 · 30-03-2020 03:51PM

Marsden35 wrote: »

Turkey was very slow to act and they have an airport that's an international hub. I expect their cases to explode soon.

Already has, 5000 cases in the last 48 hours. 10,000 overall in just two weeks, over 131 deaths in a country with an average age of 31 would imply a huge number of undetected cases

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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) Read OP