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CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    awec wrote: »
    The misery merchants on here really are something else.

    “I called for a lockdown in February, look at me look at me”.

    There has been a number of posters on here doing nothing but finding the absolute worst in everything. We are fortunate that they’re here to ensure that everyone is as miserable as possible.

    Good numbers are bad news. Bad numbers are bad news. We could announce a cure tomorrow and they’d still find a way to turn it into something negative.

    “We predicted this” is such total bollocks. Things are far, far better than anything you lot predicted.
    Let's not forget "we can't trust the numbers or the testing"!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    wakka12 wrote: »

    If that is for real they should be immediately closed again by any means necessary. A military strike if needs be.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,125 ✭✭✭c montgomery


    awec wrote: »
    The misery merchants on here really are something else.

    “I called for a lockdown in February, look at me look at me”.

    There has been a number of posters on here doing nothing but finding the absolute worst in everything. We are fortunate that they’re here to ensure that everyone is as miserable as possible.

    Good numbers are bad news. Bad numbers are bad news. We could announce a cure tomorrow and they’d still find a way to turn it into something negative.

    “We predicted this” is such total bollocks. Things are far, far better than anything you lot predicted.

    Wish I could thank this post x 1000


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    BTW doc on RTE2 about pangolins at 7.00!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭Ger Roe


    RTE Six One News earlier didn't mention anything about test kits being low and leading to closure of some local test centres. Didn't Fergal Bowers himself tweet about Croke Park being closed earlier today?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,235 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    A worrying stat is that as of Friday 27th there are 2216 cases, 564 have been Hospitalised and 506 Healthcare workers have been infected.

    1 Healthcare worker gets infected for every Hospital admission.

    Those front line heroes putting their lives on the line, it is worrying how many infected


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Let's not forget "we can't trust the numbers or the testing"!

    Testing centres in Dublin, Cork and Castlebar cancelled appointments today due to running out of testing kits.


  • Posts: 2,016 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Blaze420 wrote: »
    If you can’t give them credit for what they’ve done so far then the nicest thing you can do is shut your mouth - and your arsehole while you’re at it because that is what you are talking out of.

    Link??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 231 ✭✭derossi


    It was inevitable as more test centres opened up and with the increase in testing and the delay in getting more test kits, a day like this was going to happen. 100 thousand coming next week and onwards so should alleviate the availability.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    Blaze420 wrote: »
    If you can’t give them credit for what they’ve done so far then the nicest thing you can do is shut your mouth - and your arsehole while you’re at it because that is what you are talking out of.

    Now now just because you don't agree with someone there's no need to get personal.

    I give every single front line worker in the health service my up most respect. FG and the upper echelons of the HSE not so much.

    Have you thought about talking to someone about your anger issues? Seriously it can be a drain on one's self and leave you unhappy as a person.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,420 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Let's not forget "we can't trust the numbers or the testing"!

    Indeed : the situation with kits at Pairc ui Chaoimh is a distraction. There are testing centres all over the country, not just there and Croker.


  • Site Banned Posts: 2,799 ✭✭✭Bobtheman


    Blaze420 wrote: »
    If you can’t give them credit for what they’ve done so far then the nicest thing you can do is shut your mouth - and your arsehole while you’re at it because that is what you are talking out of.

    I think they did a reasonable job in comparison to other nations - particularly the UK. Some mistakes were made - allowing in Italian rugby fans and pretending we are as good as south Korea. We ain't. But the political judgement of this won't written for at least a year. What happens to the huge debt we are now racking up ? Will the EU consolidate debt? Will our government allow the Germans to screw us again - while they make money off the back of the single market ? They made buckets off the creation of the euro .


  • Administrators Posts: 55,080 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Let's not forget "we can't trust the numbers or the testing"!

    “Why didn’t we just shut the whole country down for months on end?!?”

    “I saw someone outside, this lockdown is a total disaster, Irish people don’t get it”

    It’s beyond tiring at this stage. Trying to read objective discussion on the numbers and you have to wade through page after page of absolute nonsense from these posters.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    Distribution of laboratory confirmed cases of COVID-19 in the EU/EEA and the UK, as of 29 March 2020 @ 08:00

    novel-coronavirus-cases-EU-UK-29-03-2020%20.jpg.png?itok=BJOh0q--

    A flattening of the curve over the last 3 days for daily cases in Europe.

    Fingers crossed it is real and not like the apparent flattening last week,

    Larger clickable version here :- https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/cases-2019-ncov-eueea


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,548 ✭✭✭Martina1991


    If so that is better. Have you a link to that?

    I don't have a link.

    To me it's common sense. When it is reported that X number of tests have been carried out that's what it implies.

    In order to know how many cases we have, the swabs have to have been processed and the results known; positive or negative.

    2615 positives and ~30,385 negatives.

    Any other person being referred, swab in transit or result not finalied can't be included in the results because it is not known.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,554 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    If so that is better. Have you a link to that?

    The number tested is the number that have been processed and confirmed as either Detected / Not Detected by the labs. 5k per day is the rate of these now, and around 33k done total.

    There are far more swabs done than the Number of Tests reported, but they haven't gone through the labs yet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 904 ✭✭✭Blaze420


    BanditLuke wrote: »
    Now now just because you don't agree with someone there's no need to get personal.

    I give every single front line worker in the health service my up most respect. FG and the upper echelons of the HSE not so much.

    Have you thought about talking to someone about your anger issues? Seriously it can be a drain on one's self and leave you unhappy as a person.

    I have no anger at all so don’t know where you are getting that from. I think FG are doing the best they can in the circumstances and I’m happy it’s them managing this and not the dopes in SF.

    It’s not the time for political point scoring though because there’s a big threat to be dealt with - for you and the others who say they aren’t doing enough - what do ye know? **** all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Testing centres in Dublin, Cork and Castlebar cancelled appointments today due to running out of testing kits.
    Not my point at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,155 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    If so that is better. Have you a link to that?

    You keep asking for links. How about watching some of the news reports and press conferences for yourself?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    maninasia wrote: »
    The EU pushed hard to keep borders and flights open with the EU. They led to the virus spreading very rapidly out of Northern Italy..
    That now they have no answer to the desperate need for PPE shows the problems in the EU in a very concrete form.


    The Irish government made a huge mistake in not stopping flights from Italy earlier even though it was a known epidemic center .....Even now they allow flights to come in with no quarantine tracking of individuals. I look on from outside in disbelief.

    In fairness, as our fearless govt minister stated “How would we feel if Italy stopped out flights”.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,292 ✭✭✭1641


    Roger_007 wrote: »
    I wish those reporters on RTE would stop saying each day that half the the people were over or younger than the average age of death. They seem to think that half the values in a range have to be above the average and half below. It means no such thing.


    The "median" means exactly that. Perhaps you are thinking about the "mean"?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭Refractions


    Probably dropping due to the weekend. Think last weekend was the same and then we saw a jump on the Monday. Stand to be corrected on that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 904 ✭✭✭Blaze420


    Probably dropping due to the weekend. Think last weekend was the same and then we saw a jump on the Monday. Stand to be corrected on that.

    We are about 5-7 days behind on results, the counts being given are not live data. Take from that what you will


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    Blaze420 wrote: »
    I have no anger at all so don’t know where you are getting that from. I think FG are doing the best they can in the circumstances and I’m happy it’s them managing this and not the dopes in SF.

    It’s not the time for political point scoring though because there’s a big threat to be dealt with - for you and the others who say they aren’t doing enough - what do ye know? **** all.

    It's not the time for political point scoring then you bring up SF :pac:

    Okay have a nice evening


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 886 ✭✭✭cosanostra


    kilkenny31 wrote: »
    I see a lot of people posting here about the test figures and how nothing can be read from them because the criteria changed. Look at it this way. The criteria changed so that people needed to have more symptoms to get tested. But all that matteres is that we are catching a good chunk of people that are sick. Asymptomatic people or people who have mild symptoms are very unlikely to need hospital care anyway so catching those doesn't matter so much while we are all in relative lockdown anyway. Further down the road when we want to get the country moving again it matters to test as many people as possible. The fact that our numbers have plateaued at the 200-300 mark is good.

    They are'nt testing to get people treatment they're testing to isolate them and their contacts. It's actually more important to find asymptomatic people as they are the ones most likely to spread it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 368 ✭✭FullOf..IT


    awec wrote: »
    “Why didn’t we just shut the whole country down for months on end?!?”

    “I saw someone outside, this lockdown is a total disaster, Irish people don’t get it”

    It’s beyond tiring at this stage. Trying to read objective discussion on the numbers and you have to wade through page after page of absolute nonsense from these posters.

    My thoughts exactly - can we have a breakaway thread with an IQ test for entry into this splinter group?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Strazdas wrote: »
    Indeed : the situation with kits at Pairc ui Chaoimh is a distraction. There are testing centres all over the country, not just there and Croker.
    It seems that for every day things look a small bit better, sadly not in terms of deaths, there is one more thing to find fault with. I think it is looking increasingly likely we will not become Italy or Spain or Britain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭frillyleaf


    FFS.

    People were demanding flights from Northern Italy be grounded in early March until a plan was in place to bring Irish citizens only home in a controlled manner that involved temperature and symptom checks at the very least. These people were ignored by the government. If only the government listened then we'd have avoided a large number of cases and resulting deaths.

    The government tried to press on with St Patricks Day Parades and critcised towns who cancelled theres.

    People demanded school closures, the government hesitated.

    It was obvious nursing homes were a major risk and people were saying that staff were not wearing the nessecay PPE. Ignored. Holohan even wanted to life visitor restrictions. People's criticisms again ignored.

    People have been saying for weeks our lockdown has been a farce with no consequences for those who break it. Ignored.

    Now people are saying its madness to allow flights in from London and New York without screening or mandatory supervised isolation. Ignored.

    People said going ahead with Cheltenham was crazy. The government didn't even bother issuing a travel advisory on that one, not that anyone takes Irish government travel advisories seriously.

    And on and on. You clearly haven't been paying attention to the inaction of our government from the start.

    Their actions have come very late and too late for those in ICU or worse.

    Will people being asked to return from US be quarantined at this stage ? US is an epicentre and to allow people return without mandatory 14 day quarantine is madness. The hotel at airport could be used. If this isn’t done cases will explode again in a few weeks.

    I don’t understand the lack of travel restrictions and then allowing people fly in and walk around food shops etc . This surely will undo any of the good work over the two weeks ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 904 ✭✭✭Blaze420


    BanditLuke wrote: »
    It's not the time for political point scoring then you bring up SF :pac:

    Okay have a nice evening

    Well to my eyes that’s exactly what ye are doing- kicking FG cos they didn’t do this or that when they are doing a grand job of it at the moment. Makes me question who the likes of you voted for - I’m in no way an FG fanboy before you start but I recognise leadership when I see it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,552 ✭✭✭kaymin


    Blaze420 wrote: »
    I have no anger at all so don’t know where you are getting that from. I think FG are doing the best they can in the circumstances and I’m happy it’s them managing this and not the dopes in SF.

    It’s not the time for political point scoring though because there’s a big threat to be dealt with - for you and the others who say they aren’t doing enough - what do ye know? **** all.

    It's not that they're not doing enough now it's that they did so little in the early weeks and are having to play catch-up. I was on this thread on 2 Feb with others raising concerns about plane loads of Italians passing through Dublin airport without any checks whatsoever. FG hasn't led, they've followed every step of the way so far.


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