CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03

murpho999 · 29-03-2020 02:25PM

SwordofLight wrote: »

Just a tad ironic that this virus originated in China and nobody wanted anything to do with China for a few weeks and now I see we are reliant on them shipping us PPE etc

Who didn't want anything to do with them?

Also they're not shipping them to us? We bought them.

It's a business transaction, simple.

stephenjmcd · 29-03-2020 02:25PM

expectationlost wrote: »

why didn't the government use a cargo plane for the PPE cargo rather then a passenger plane?

That top picture is not of an EI flight. Has been doing the rounds on social media.

It's a Lufthansa flight

timmy_mallet · 29-03-2020 02:25PM

wakka12 wrote: »

If they would have died now anyway, then the mortality rate in Lombardy would not be five times higher than normal for this time of year. How is that so hard to understand? Some posters seem to go to great lengths to minimse what is a very serious issue

How hard is it for you to understand that they wont be alive to die during the year when they usually would have?

And you dont have to take an anonymous Boards poster (my) word for it, try the experts. And I'll do the same with yours.

Hrududu · 29-03-2020 02:25PM

fritzelly wrote: »

Too late if your already infected and living with them, listen to what Dr Holohan said

Not really. I know someone who was diagnosed and his wife and kids have no symptoms. This is about a week post confirmation. Maybe they’ll get it, maybe not. But I wouldn’t assume that everyone in a house will get it if one does.

Away With The Fairies · 29-03-2020 02:26PM

fritzelly wrote: »

Too late if your already infected and living with them, listen to what Dr Holohan said

So what if I need to go to hospital, surely wearing a face mask then is needed?

iguana · 29-03-2020 02:27PM

expectationlost wrote: »

the CMO admitted they got it wrong by telling people with only one symptom to go for testing

But it's not wrong to test as many people as possible. That's exactly the right thing to do. What they got wrong was not having a fraction of the necessary testing capability. When they couldn't hide that, they didn't hold their hands up and say, 'sorry, we can't test like we should so we have to triage people waiting for tests far more stringently.' They just made out that it was the fault of the people with symptoms.

Kivaro · 29-03-2020 02:27PM

For India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, and most if not all countries in Africa, this virus will cause utter devastation. The numbers of dead will be unimaginable.
These countries will need the western world's help if/when we recover.

timmy_mallet · 29-03-2020 02:27PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

UK release full testing numbers so far.
https://twitter.com/fergalbowers/status/1244253460025036801?s=21

15% positive. Farce.

BanditLuke · 29-03-2020 02:28PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

That top picture is not of an EI flight. Has been doing the rounds on social media.

It's a Lufthansa flight

You are actually kidding me? Ah come on that can't be true just because it's on Twitter

timmy_mallet · 29-03-2020 02:28PM

Kivaro wrote: »

For India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, and most if not all countries in Africa, this virus will cause utter devastation. The numbers of dead will be unimaginable.
These countries will need the western world's help if/when we recover.

Well this is it. They'll be left to fend for themselves. And the lockdown, pretend do gooders on here will be nowhere to be seen.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 29-03-2020 02:28PM

iguana wrote: »

But it's not wrong to test as many people as possible. That's exactly the right thing to do. What they got wrong was not having a fraction of the necessary testing capability. When they couldn't hide that, they didn't hold their hands up and say, 'sorry, we can't test like we should so we have to triage people waiting for tests far more stringently.' They just made out that it was the fault of the people with symptoms.

That is what they said. The fever+other symptom thing was clearly done because they couldn’t test more people than that. I don’t see any denial there.

stockshares · 29-03-2020 02:30PM

Can anyone confirm if Paul Reid said Hse is testing 5000 people a day currently

and

has testing has been suspended in Cork and Dublin today because there's no more testing kits.

JP Liz V1 · 29-03-2020 02:30PM

Wolf359f wrote: »

Is that 20k a guess or have you a source?
Last count was 17,992 on the 24th. Averaging 1622 tests a day.
I'd guess we're at least at 25k tests (conservative estimate)
That's 5175/mil population.
UK are at 1827/mil
We're not going at a snail's pace

If PUC Cork is doing 1000 tests a day surely Dublin would be doing 2000 to 3000 tests a day with all it's centres

iwillyeah1234 · 29-03-2020 02:30PM

Portuguese schoolboy , 14 , with no underlying conditions , dies from covid19

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8164787/14-year-old-boy-Portugals-youngest-coronavirus-victim-Ovar-near-Porto.html

fritzelly · 29-03-2020 02:30PM

Hrududu wrote: »

Not really. I know someone who was diagnosed and his wife and kids have no symptoms. This is about a week post confirmation. Maybe they’ll get it, maybe not. But I wouldn’t assume that everyone in a house will get it if one does.

No symptoms means nothing, you assume you have it

Happy4all · 29-03-2020 02:31PM

timmy_mallet wrote: »

15% positive. Farce.

Why so?

Multipass · 29-03-2020 02:32PM

Hrududu wrote: »

Not really. I know someone who was diagnosed and his wife and kids have no symptoms. This is about a week post confirmation. Maybe they’ll get it, maybe not. But I wouldn’t assume that everyone in a house will get it if one does.

Most likely they are infected but asymptomatic

silverharp · 29-03-2020 02:32PM

iwillyeah1234 wrote: »

Portuguese schoolboy , 14 , with no underlying conditions , dies from covid19

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8164787/14-year-old-boy-Portugals-youngest-coronavirus-victim-Ovar-near-Porto.html

i'd say ignore all these stories, generally somewhere embedded it will mention that an autopsy has yet to be performed.

stephenjmcd · 29-03-2020 02:33PM

BanditLuke wrote: »

You are actually kidding me? Ah come on that can't be true just because it's on Twitter

Well seeing as Lufthansa posted it the other day its 1 instance of social media.

Irish flight due to arrive in the next half an hour into dub

cameramonkey · 29-03-2020 02:33PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

https://twitter.com/priscillalynch/status/1244227835503534082?s=21

https://twitter.com/sharonmlynch/status/1244228767368671234?s=21

They say they are doing 5000 a day tests. HSE also said the Cork facility had closed because of lack of testing kits, those statements dont seem to be compatible. also said lab facilities are expanding, They did not say how many test they have processed.No overall figure for amount of test processed.

Marsden35 · 29-03-2020 02:33PM

Kivaro wrote: »

For India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, and most if not all countries in Africa, this virus will cause utter devastation. The numbers of dead will be unimaginable.
These countries will need the western world's help if/when we recover.

Middle East bar Iran seem to be coping so far.

JP Liz V1 · 29-03-2020 02:34PM

stockshares wrote: »

Can anyone confirm if Paul Reid said Hse is testing 5000 people a day currently

and

has testing has been suspended in Cork and Dublin today because there's no more testing kits.

What, Why Suspended?

igCorcaigh · 29-03-2020 02:35PM

Kivaro wrote: »

For India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, and most if not all countries in Africa, this virus will cause utter devastation. The numbers of dead will be unimaginable.
These countries will need the western world's help if/when we recover.

My fear too. Hasn't really spiked yet in these regions. Might the climate help? Rhetorical question, I know.

fritzelly · 29-03-2020 02:35PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

So what if I need to go to hospital, surely wearing a face mask then is needed?

Why you going to hospital?

iguana · 29-03-2020 02:36PM

Ger Roe wrote: »

Stay in and you won't have to be tested.

And we're supposed to do that forever? Testing is extremely, extremely important when it comes to being able to reduce restrictions. We need to have an accurate idea about who has recovered and what kind of immunity they have in order to be able to make accurate predictions about when it's safe to reduce which restrictions. We're in damage limitation mode right now. And the longer and stricter a damage limitation period, the more damage we do to other sectors of society. Without proper data, we do other damage and people will get sick and die because of that too.

There is a reason that 'knowledge is power' is such a truism. We can't properly fight this virus without knowledge. And we are sorely lacking so, so much of it right now.

MD1990 · 29-03-2020 02:36PM

it is a bit worrying that the lockdown is Europe has seen no decline in cases & deaths in any country so far.

Have my doubts it will work as well in Europe as in China. They were more meticulous with theirs

igCorcaigh · 29-03-2020 02:36PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

What, Why Suspended?

Testing has been suspended in PUC Cork due to lack of testing kits.

SharpshooterTom · 29-03-2020 02:36PM

Dr.Fauci thinks ultimately the US will end up somewhere between 100,000-200,000 deaths when this is all said and done, presumably over the next two years.

The US has 5 times the population of the UK so their projections of at least 20,000 looks in the same ballpark.

bekker · 29-03-2020 02:36PM

Thought this testing issue had been put to bed, the number of tests daily either trumpeted or actually carried out is irrelevant.

It is the number of test that the labs can process to results daily that is the determining factor for the potential tracing and cluster identification benefits that could come from testing.

There is no basis for saying how Ireland is doing viz-a-vie other countries because there is no reliable, comparable data available.

Personally I think we have fared better than some and not as well as others, but it's early days here, and I am very concerned that virus has been in the wild since late February and community transmission is now over 52%.

From the HSE public interactions, it is apparent that nothing has changed within HSE, Health and IMO CMO hierarchy.

Kivaro · 29-03-2020 02:36PM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

My fear too. Hasn't really spiked yet in these regions. Might the climate help? Rhetorical question, I know.

It is a good question.
Keep an eye on the situation in Thailand, and how it is spreading in that warm/hot country.

CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

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CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03