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CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

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  • #8642
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    Cork Boy 53 wrote: »
    The first consignment of PPE equipment from China is due to arrive at Dublin Airport this afternoon. Hopefully there will not be problems with it as other countries have had.

    We're going to need a miracle


  • #8643
    Elmer Blooker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,251 ✭✭✭Elmer Blooker


    timmy_mallet wrote: »
    Flood of cash, from where? At least 40% unemployment by the end of this. There will be no money, no jobs, no private businesse, no tax take to pay the HSE dealing with this. It's over. Think end of WW1, hyper inflation, blaming and war.
    Since you mention WW1 all of this is reminding me of the summer of 1914 when all over Europe crowds cheered the troops in a carnival atmosphere as they headed to the front - 'it'll all be over in a few weeks and then everything will get back to normal.'
    The more astute knew that it would go on longer and it was the end of the world as they knew it.
    Who knows whats coming but it isn't going to be pleasant.


  • #8644
    Heres Johnny
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭Heres Johnny


    Everything is set up for this to last 3 months

    Mortgage moratorium - 3 months
    Wage subsidy - 12 weeks

    We'll get used to it

    Any couple in mortgaged accommodation can have 3000 a month coming in and not pay mortgage. I wouldn't give a flying feck about other bank loans either to be honest if I didn't have any. They'll be fine, they'll survive.

    However, our under regulated rental accommodation sector will cause some problems.
    Landlords will want their money and many tenants will be too worried about the future to pay it over. Non registered tenancies in particular will cause massive problems.

    Expect to see government buy back of properties from landlords and regulations properly imposed on the sector.


  • #8645
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,474 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    ThePopehimself wrote: »
    A sincere thank you to Order Of Malta - Ambulance Corps.
    These guys are heroes. My brother is on his way to Dublin for surgery as I type this.
    Without the Order of Malta Ambulance Corps this morning, we would not have been able to transport him there.
    Thank you doesn’t come close to my sense of gratitude right now. These people are all volunteers. They are Heroes.

    Why not a regular ambulance? Best of wishes to your brother.


  • #8646
    Be right back
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,363 ✭✭✭Be right back


    Is there another plane flying to Beijing today or was there just one yesterday?


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  • #8647
    Rvsmmnps
    Closed Accounts Posts: 151 ✭✭Rvsmmnps


    owlbethere wrote: »
    You'd wonder if this is some sort of a terrorist attack on the world from China.

    Virus originated from china
    Asian people running supplies and stocks low in other countries and sending supplies home
    Countries experiencing faulty PPE equipment from china

    I wonder are they checking the materials for the virus before leaving China.
    Wasn't there like 11 million people living in Wuhan, I would love to know the true number of deaths.
    I feel like there is too much focus on testing, (here we are lax on it-Norway) if people follow isolation tactics not much more can be done.

    Anyone have any information on how the matter hospital is coping with this?


  • #8648
    eagle eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,587 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    And on the economy and what's going to play out.
    From top to bottom the attitude nowadays is I want it now, whether that's a billionaire wanting your hard earned cash or the ordinary guy on the street wanting the latest smartphone. There are very few people who think long term anymore. We should learn from this to think long term and being prepared for every eventuality is paramount.


  • #8649
    take everything
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,847 ✭✭✭take everything


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    I'm hoping for a profound reassessment of our social values after this. Just a pity it had to take a bloody pandemic. Expect BAU from the usual suspects though.

    It will be interesting to see how they will reprioritise.

    If they don't, will that be a tacit admission that the elderly and vulnerable are fair game the next time.

    Whatever about the deadliness of this virus, such a response would be a genuinely scary prospect.


  • #8650
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,474 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    An Ciarraioch wrote: »
    A Korean-style contact tracing app that will inform people where the nearest case of the virus is, will be launched shortly:

    https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1244216150101315585

    I wonder about privacy concerns on this one. I see it's opt in.


  • #8651
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,165 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    owlbethere wrote: »
    The figure is jumping every day

    And it will do so for many weeks ahead. They have been very clear on this. 1200 in ICU has been suggested. We are in the early stages of this and people shouldn't be surprised to see it worsen for a while yet.


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  • #8652
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,474 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    take everything wrote: »
    It will be interesting to see how they will reprioritise.

    If they don't, will that be a tacit admission that the elderly and vulnerable are fair game the next time.

    Whatever about the deadliness of this virus, such a response would be a genuinely scary prospect.

    Not something new though. Look at the global situation. It's not just the elderly and vulnerable who are cast aside.


  • #8653
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,165 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Movementarian wrote: »
    I think those numbers were shown to be the total that have been in ICU since the start. As in it doesnt necessarily mean there is 88 still in today. Those that have recovered and unfortunately passed away would be in that number too as far as I know.

    HSE said 88 currently in ICU this morning.


  • #8654
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,394 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    owlbethere wrote: »
    We're going to need a miracle

    In great quantities, we need:

    Reliable self-testing kits.

    and/or

    Effective antiviral medication.

    and/or

    A vaccine.


  • #8655
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,165 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    owlbethere wrote: »
    We're going to need a miracle

    Your pessimism is soul destroying. How about changing the record for a while?


  • #8656
    BailMeOut
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,057 ✭✭✭BailMeOut


    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    In great quantities, we need:

    Reliable self-testing kits.

    and/or

    Effective antiviral medication.

    and/or

    A vaccine.

    We will have all three of these but will take time.


  • #8657
    Akrasia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,257 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Donald Trump mixed up his billions and his trillions when announcing his bailout the other day
    I'm very disappointed that there aren't more DR evil memes going around so I made one myself
    3uidua.jpg

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • #8658
    Inquitus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,776 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    Be right back wrote: »
    Is there another plane flying to Beijing today or was there just one yesterday?

    Out - https://www.flightradar24.com/EIN9018/244a81c5

    Back - https://www.flightradar24.com/EIN9019/244a4bcd


  • #8659
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,450 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Be right back wrote: »
    Is there another plane flying to Beijing today or was there just one yesterday?

    First one is due in dublin around 3pm.

    2nd flight left dublin this morning and another one due out in the next hour.

    Today's flights

    EIN9018 EI-EIM due out 1020z to PEK.
    EIN9020 EI-FNG due out 1320z to PEK.


  • #8660
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,139 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    wakka12 wrote: »
    If they would have died now anyway, then the mortality rate in Lombardy would not be five times higher than normal for this time of year. How is that so hard to understand? Some posters seem to go to great lengths to minimse what is a very serious issue

    He didnt say now, he said this year. Why are you not getting that.


  • #8661
    Gynoid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭Gynoid


    wakka12 wrote: »
    If they would have died now anyway, then the mortality rate in Lombardy would not be five times higher than normal for this time of year. How is that so hard to understand? Some posters seem to go to great lengths to minimse what is a very serious issue

    He reckons they reckon the weak are just being weeded out earlier this year, a pre emptive death strike so to speak, and there will be a lovely lull later when much less people die because the weak were weeded out earlier in the year. A circular enclosed system type of theory. Time will tell whether it is harsh pragmatism or the embrace of eugenics. Personally I think just stay ta fcuk at home until we know much more.


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  • #8662
    eagle eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,587 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    And while I'm at it. It's going to get to the stage where there are no hospital beds(we have this most of the time without any pandemic) and other buildings are going to have to be set up for Covid-19 patients.
    We have a shortage of nurses in this country which is a problem.
    How about we set up online classes and teach people, who are interested, the basics about tending to covid-19 patients. Put them through an exam and if they pass and are willing to volunteer their services put them to work in these centres.
    There are lots of educational things we can do which will help people understand what we are dealing with and help them prepare better.


  • #8663
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    niallo27 wrote: »
    What is being said I think is that, if we get this some bit under control by September, there will be a lot less people older people that could die because the majority would have died in april and march.

    The majority of old people will not die of COVID in April and MArch, there are tens of millions of people over 65 in Europe


  • #8664
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,757 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    HSE said 88 currently in ICU this morning.

    Its accumulative. Richard Chambers confirmed this the other night, just like the hospitalized figure.


  • #8665
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    Akrasia wrote: »
    Donald Trump mixed up his billions and his trillions when announcing his bailout the other day
    I'm very disappointed that there aren't more DR evil memes going around so I made one myself
    3uidua.jpg

    Leo used a quote from Terminator 2 when addressing the nation during a national crisis.

    Leo man bad?


  • #8666
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    niallo27 wrote: »
    He didnt say now, he said this year. Why are you not getting that.

    So you think that all the deaths are being basically concentrated in March, and then the mortality will be lower than normal in the coming months.So the overall mortality rate for the year will just be normal, despite the pandemic. I get it, I just think it is far fetched, and very likely will not be what happens


  • #8667
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Light relief. Made me laugh.



  • #8668
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,139 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    eagle eye wrote: »
    And on the economy and what's going to play out.
    From top to bottom the attitude nowadays is I want it now, whether that's a billionaire wanting your hard earned cash or the ordinary guy on the street wanting the latest smartphone. There are very few people who think long term anymore. We should learn from this to think long term and being prepared for every eventuality is paramount.

    That would mean a very boring, prudent fairly **** life. It might be for some people but I'd prefer to take the chance.


  • #8669
    Dr. Bre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,846 ✭✭✭Dr. Bre


    Putin has been very quiet


  • #8670
    daheff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,037 ✭✭✭daheff


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Its accumulative. Richard Chambers confirmed this the other night, just like the hospitalized figure.

    How many have recovered sufficiently to come out of ICU?....or are all 88 still in ICU?


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  • #8671
    snoopboggybog
    Closed Accounts Posts: 454 ✭✭snoopboggybog


    Dr. Bre wrote: »
    Putin has been very quiet

    In cohorts with CHI
    NA.


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