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CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

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  • #8222
    BluePlanet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,444 ✭✭✭BluePlanet


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    Sun ain't rising any time soon i'm afraid. Things globally are going to get a lot worse.

    I'd be hoping we could start lifting restrictions a little globally by July.

    I'm not not sure the population understands the gravity of what has happened and the consequences that are coming.

    It's looking like Italy's New Daily Cases is leveling off, so that's something.
    Maybe Spain too (fingers crossed).


  • #8223
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,222 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    BluePlanet wrote: »
    It's looking like Italy's New Daily Cases is leveling off, so that's something.
    Maybe Spain too (fingers crossed).

    But that's with a lid on. Take the lid off and....

    Cases are still increasing and that's not changing any time soon.

    We are in a really bad place.

    I don't know what the solution is going to be.

    We need a vaccine.


  • #8224
    Gynoid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭Gynoid


    snoopboggybog wrote: »
    Cages piled on top of each other.

    Absolutely disgusting, bats ****ting and pissing on dogs, dogs in turn ****ting and pissing on cats, cats ****ting and pissing on ferrets, ferretts ****ting and pissing on racoons etc etc.

    **** sake and its still going on, no wonder disease is widespread.

    Gack! Sorry, I am just turning back towards oblivion on this now, it would make me too cross and disturbed to think about it. Like child abuse, sex trafficking, fgm etc there are some things that would break me if I dwelled on them. :(


  • #8225
    893bet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,783 ✭✭✭893bet


    Rob A. Bank wrote: »
    Aer Lingus are on the way back from China, carrying badly needed PPE for our health workers.

    https://www.flightradar24.com/EIN9019/244a4bcd

    "One group of doctors say they have procured €6,000 worth of PPE themselves after losing patience with the HSE’s efforts to supply the equipment."

    Ignore the fact that the government have spent 200 million on PPE and focus on that 6 k to spin the narrative.


  • #8226
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    Gynoid wrote: »
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8163761/Chinese-markets-selling-bats.html

    :( I have never read an article about these meat markets. As a vegetarian for 35 years my eyes have always glazed over at those kinds of things and avoided them, eg PETA videos, slaughter videos from vegans or whatever, because I have never been or felt political about not eating meat, it was always just a personal choice and if people don't feel that way, then my attitude has been, "so what".
    But fcuk me pictures of cats and dogs in cages waiting to be sold, killed and eaten! It is truly grotesque. A pretty model nibbling a bat! Nausea-inducing. The very idea of all this is utterly grotesque and savage.

    Apparently these vile markets are back up and running. Ugh. I will have to resume normal function of choosing not to look at these kinds of images lest I devolve into a crazy misanthrope!

    I saw worse on some YouTube videos. A market with live animals like cats and dogs in cages. Also included in the market were other animals like wildlife animals, exotic animals, rodent. Live animals. Dead animals. Cooked animals.

    I saw another video of animals/dogs skinned alive.

    I saw another video with much much worse. Stomach turning stuff that I will not write here because I don't want to sicken readers but it's bad.

    If these practices don't stop the birth of a new virus could happen at any stage.

    Living aside your vegetarianism, Ireland and the rest of Europe don't treat animals this way and we don't have e these slaughtering practices.


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  • #8227
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,385 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ThePopehimself wrote: »
    I am still the only one in my village I've seen wearing a mask -

    Feel like a plonker but I'll take my chances - I can live with that.

    I just say to myself that every single person of Asian descent in every single news bulletin across the entire world can't be wrong...

    ...And every single frontline doctor/nurse/medic/worker across the planet.

    I bought mine back in January; back then, HomeCare Medical told me that most of their customers were people coming in to buy and send back home to China(couldn't blame them - I guess I'd have done the same) The respirators were also widely available in all of the Hardware stores; FFP2/ FFP3 masks.

    They were gone by the end of Jan - in my area anyway.


    Jesus Christ, masks work. But only the correct masks.



    Unless every person has an N95/FFP3 supply then it's just better to not wear one and stay the **** home.

    ****wits have been flouting social distancing, given any excuse, what do you think would happen if these morons thought that their paper mask was protection?


  • #8228
    shinny
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭shinny


    Does anyone know the details of the Aer Lingus flight coming back from Beijing? Flight number, ETA, etc?


  • #8229
    kyote00
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,665 ✭✭✭kyote00


    Don't believe anything that written in the right wing rag ....

    There is a denial in the UK media about what they have done.

    There is a Sky News report running last few days which tries to explain why most of the deaths would have happened anyway as the people were old...
    They are talking about 20,000 deaths !

    Little or no mention of this article from the Lancet "“Forget lockdown—we are going into meltdown.”
    https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pii=S0140-6736%2820%2930727-3
    amber2 wrote: »
    Kermit think you are right, don’t think we can comprehend the gravity or enormity what could be to come.

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1261631/coronavirus-europe-social-unrest-riots-covid19-red-cross-warning


  • #8230
    snoopboggybog
    Closed Accounts Posts: 454 ✭✭snoopboggybog


    owlbethere wrote: »
    I saw worse on some YouTube videos. A market with live animals like cats and dogs in cages. Also included in the market were other animals like wildlife animals, exotic animals, rodent. Live animals. Dead animals. Cooked animals.

    I saw another video of animals/dogs skinned alive.

    I saw another video with much much worse. Stomach turning stuff that I will not write here because I don't want to sicken readers but it's bad.

    If these practices don't stop the birth of a new virus could happen at any stage.

    Living aside your vegetarianism, Ireland and the rest of Europe don't treat animals this way and we don't have e these slaughtering practices.

    Not uncommon there for dogs to be thrown into boiling water alive and the lid shut or cooked alive with a small flame gun. The agony with both is unthinkable.

    Its ****ing disgusting


  • #8231
    all about the mane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    ThePopehimself wrote: »
    I am still the only one in my village I've seen wearing a mask -

    Feel like a plonker but I'll take my chances - I can live with that.

    I just say to myself that every single person of Asian descent in every single news bulletin across the entire world can't be wrong...

    ...And every single frontline doctor/nurse/medic/worker across the planet.

    I bought mine back in January; back then, HomeCare Medical told me that most of their customers were people coming in to buy and send back home to China(couldn't blame them - I guess I'd have done the same) The respirators were also widely available in all of the Hardware stores; FFP2/ FFP3 masks.

    They were gone by the end of Jan - in my area anyway.

    The efficacy of a mask is negligible. When are people going to get this. In fact, from adjusting it you are actually increasing contact between hands and face. They are not comfortable to wear. Take it from someone who has to wear them as part of my job.
    Also, frontline workers are only wearing them when in close face to face contact with people who are symptomatic. And with those with cystic fibrosis etc. And that is to protect the patients, not themselves.


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  • #8232
    Duke of Url
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭Duke of Url


    shinny wrote: »
    Does anyone know the details of the Aer Lingus flight coming back from Beijing? Flight number, ETA, etc?

    https://www.flightradar24.com/EIN9019/244a4bcd


  • #8233
    keithkk16
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 909 ✭✭✭keithkk16


    What are you planning on doing in pro tools and Logic? If you're making electronic music get Ableton. But if you plan on working like a band then go for pro tools.


  • #8234
    d51984
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 942 ✭✭✭d51984


    Aer Lingus flight from China EIN9019 EI-EAV due back 1410 Dublin

    Another two planes will depart from Dublin today also :

    EIN9018 EI-EIM due out 1020z to PEK.
    EIN9020 EI-FNG due out 1320z to PEK.

    Its a disgrace Joe!



  • #8235
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Can anybody step in and regulate the Chinese markets? Can the WHO help at all if their practices are affecting the whole world?

    The markets were meant to stop with the last SARS outbreak in 2002 but obviously ignored. And now we face this and their continuity of these markets and probably another pandemic on the way from there.

    I get it, they eat cats and dogs like we eat pigs. But why can't they have regulations in place.


  • #8236
    Logan Roy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 452 ✭✭Logan Roy


    keithkk16 wrote: »
    What are you planning on doing in pro tools and Logic? If you're making electronic music get Ableton. But if you plan on working like a band then go for pro tools.

    Best post of the thread


  • #8237
    Tilikum17
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,329 ✭✭✭Tilikum17


    snoopboggybog wrote: »
    Not uncommon there for dogs to be thrown into boiling water alive and the lid shut or cooked alive with a small flame gun. The agony with both is unthinkable.

    Its ****ing disgusting

    But it’s ok to gas pigs with co2 or put 6 or 7 baby chicks into zip lock bags at a time to suffocate them as their worthless in the industry.

    Don’t cod yourself. The west are no better.


  • #8238
    kyote00
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,665 ✭✭✭kyote00


    Nero fiddled while Rome burned ....
    Logan Roy wrote: »
    Best post of the thread


  • #8239
    BluePlanet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,444 ✭✭✭BluePlanet


    893bet wrote: »
    Ignore the fact that the government have spent 200 million on PPE and focus on that 6 k to spin the narrative.
    It's not the euro amount though that matters is it.

    It's the lack of preparedness and the legacy of certain parties underfunding the HSE.


  • #8240
    sternn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 929 ✭✭✭sternn


    amber2 wrote: »
    Kermit think you are right, don’t think we can comprehend the gravity or enormity what could be to come.

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1261631/coronavirus-europe-social-unrest-riots-covid19-red-cross-warning

    Our government through medical advisors are doing exactly as many other countries are doing: slowly introducing the measures and giving short term dates (I.e. measures in place for 2 weeks and will be reviewed).

    This is our new way of life for what I think will be the rest of the year at least. If measures are lifted and life goes back to normal, the virus kicks back up and we are in the same scenario again. I think the test for antigens may allow some people to start going back to normal again, but as we haven't been through a full year if this virus, we don't yet know if it has the ability to mutate like the flu virus.

    Yesterday in his briefing, Simon Harris coyly said that measures are not going to be suddenly lifted on Easter Sunday, they are likely to be with us for many weeks and months. There is likely to be restrictions in place until there is a vaccine that has the capability of being produced for the global population and is 100% safe.

    Air Travel will be severely affected for the rest of the year at least as governments will want to control the virus in their own country. This virus spread through air travel so quickly, unlike any other virus.

    This is such a surreal situation, something we will talk about in many many years to come. I trust the advice we are being given by the scientists / medical teams and know that we will all get used to these restrictions and pull together as a community to support each other. There will be a vaccine and the virus is likely to be with us for many years to come, but spread will be contained through vaccines (similar to the flu).


  • #8241
    Lucy8080
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,980 ✭✭✭Lucy8080


    kyote00 wrote: »
    Don't believe anything that written in the right wing rag ....

    There is a denial in the UK media about what they have done.

    There is a Sky News report running last few days which tries to explain why most of the deaths would have happened anyway as the people were old...
    They are talking about 20,000 deaths !

    Little or no mention of this article from the Lancet "“Forget lockdown—we are going into meltdown.”
    https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pii=S0140-6736%2820%2930727-3


    If you have a twitter account ,maybe you could send that "lancet" link to Peter Hitchens. Invite him to read it or maybe put it as a counter-balance in his next Daily Mail column.

    It's worth a try.


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  • #8242
    tabby aspreme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,237 ✭✭✭tabby aspreme


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    Can anybody step in and regulate the Chinese markets? Can the WHO help at all if their practices are affecting the whole world?

    The markets were meant to stop with the last SARS outbreak in 2002 but obviously ignored. And now we face this and their continuity of these markets and probably another pandemic on the way from there.

    I get it, they eat cats and dogs like we eat pigs. But why can't they have regulations in place.

    Like everything in China, the market's could be stopped by the authorities if they wanted too, it may happen now.


  • #8243
    all about the mane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    BluePlanet wrote: »
    It's not the euro amount though that matters is it.

    It's the lack of preparedness and the legacy of certain parties underfunding the HSE.

    How is the HSE under funded? Have you seen the amount of the budget that goes to the health service?


  • #8244
    Macdarack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 816 ✭✭✭Macdarack


    all about the mane wrote: »
    How is the HSE under funded? Have you seen the amount of the budget that goes to the health service?

    It drives me mad when I hear politicians saying they'll pump more money into the H. S. E,
    It needs restructuring no more money.


  • #8245
    paul71
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭paul71


    all about the mane wrote: »
    How is the HSE under funded? Have you seen the amount of the budget that goes to the health service?

    Correct, it is not underfunded, it is poorly managed.


  • #8246
    Gynoid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭Gynoid


    kyote00 wrote: »

    Little or no mention of this article from the Lancet "“Forget lockdown—we are going into meltdown.”
    https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pii=S0140-6736%2820%2930727-3

    From the article you link -


    The NHS has been wholly unprepared for this pandemic. It’s impossible to understand why. Based on their modelling of the Wuhan outbreak of COVID-19, Joseph Wu and his colleagues wrote in The Lancet on Jan 31, 2020: “On the present trajectory, 2019-nCoV could be about to become a global epidemic...for health protection within China and internationally...preparedness plans should be readied for deployment
    at short notice, including securing supply chains of pharmaceuticals, personal protective equipment, hospital supplies, and the necessary human resources to deal with the consequences of a global outbreak of this magnitude.”
    This warning wasn’t made lightly. It should have been read by the Chief Medical Officer, the Chief Executive Officer of the NHS in England, and the Chief Scientific Adviser. They had a duty to immediately put the NHS and British public on high alert. February should have been
    used to expand coronavirus testing capacity, ensure the distribution of WHO-approved PPE, and establish training programmes and guidelines to protect NHS staff. They
    didn’t take any of those actions. The result has been chaos and panic across the NHS. Patients will die unnecessarily.
    NHS staff will die unnecessarily. It is, indeed, as one health worker wrote last week, “a national scandal”. The gravity of that scandal has yet to be understood.""

    The same could be said of our set up, really. Nobody wanted to look like a nervous ninnie or a chicken licken. And now do we really have enough tests?

    I think it was Raconteuse yesterday who saud something like calculating from patient 1 in Ireland to now our numbers are worse than Italy ir Spain if you go to 4 week point for them. I saw it as a quoted post and could not find original or link. But since the idea was horrifying I checked it out, and we had 1st case about 4 weeks ago whereas Italy was January 31st. And indeed by 4 weeks later they had LESS numbers than we have now. (!!!!!!)

    And yet today there are big knobs and big nibs having safe skype or zoom meetings today to decide if their construction projects could somehow, ( anyhow!), be squeezed in under "essential" or "critical" so that the foot soldiers can be told there is no problem about them being on site at 8am tomorrow despite the whole country being asked to stay safely at home, just eat your lunch in your cars and don't speak up out of turn.


  • #8247
    ettravel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 ✭ettravel


    guards put in force on village main street checking where u going and coming from.


  • #8248
    paul71
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭paul71


    BluePlanet wrote: »
    It's not the euro amount though that matters is it.

    It's the lack of preparedness and the legacy of certain parties underfunding the HSE.

    We are 7th per capita in health expenditure in OECD. $5,200 per person compared to $5,300 in Germany, there is no underfunding.


  • #8249
    sternn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 929 ✭✭✭sternn


    Gynoid wrote: »
    I think it was Raconteuse yesterday who saud something like calculating from patient 1 in Ireland to now our numbers are worse than Italy ir Spain if you go to 4 week point for them. I saw it as a quoted post and could not find original or link. But since the idea was horrifying I checked it out, and we had 1st case about 4 weeks ago whereas Italy was January 31st. And indeed by 4 weeks later they had LESS numbers than we have now. (!!!!!!)

    You cannot compare the trajectories of countries that had their first cases several weeks apart. Late January was just the start of the virus and there were not many carriers so spreading was slower. When Ireland started getting the virus, there were several clusters that established pretty quickly in the country due to air travel from affected regions.


  • #8250
    BluePlanet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,444 ✭✭✭BluePlanet


    paul71 wrote: »
    We are 7th per capita in health expenditure in OECD. $5,200 per person compared to $5,300 in Germany, there is no underfunding.
    So why the recruitment and overtime freeze?
    Why all the people on trolley's in hallways?


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  • #8251
    Gynoid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭Gynoid


    sternn wrote: »
    You cannot compare the trajectories of countries that had their first cases several weeks apart. Late January was just the start of the virus and there were not many carriers so spreading was slower. When Ireland started getting the virus, there were several clusters that established pretty quickly in the country due to air travel from affected regions.

    Late January was not the start of the virus. Early December, maybe even mid November in China. Comparing trajectories is surely exactly what one can do? Air travel did the same in Italy. I dunno, maybe I am misunderstanding some fundamental epidemiology but your points dont make sense to me.


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