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CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

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    #7652
    wakka12
    Registered Users Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    rossie1977 wrote: »
    Italys deaths are likely much higher too as mayor of Bergamo said anyone dying at home is not counted in official statistics

    Same with France and Spain


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    #7653
    FVP3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭FVP3


    The US coverup

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/10/us/coronavirus-testing-delays.html

    Exceprt:


    In late January*, the first confirmed American case of the coronavirus had landed in her area. Critical questions needed answers: Had the man infected anyone else? Was the deadly virus already lurking in other communities and spreading?
    As luck would have it, Dr. Chu had a way to monitor the region. For months, as part of a research project into the flu, she and a team of researchers had been collecting nasal swabs from residents experiencing symptoms throughout the Puget Sound region.
    To repurpose the tests for monitoring the coronavirus, they would need the support of state and federal officials. But nearly everywhere Dr. Chu turned, officials repeatedly rejected the idea, interviews and emails show, even as weeks crawled by and outbreaks emerged in countries outside of China, where the infection began.

    By Feb. 25, Dr. Chu and her colleagues could not bear to wait any longer. They began performing coronavirus tests, without government approval**.

    * one month after the WHO was informed by China.
    ** two months after the WHO was informed by China.


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    #7654
    Ninthlife
    Registered Users Posts: 2,266 ✭✭✭Ninthlife


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Can someone tell me what's going on with the 53% male and 46% female. What am I missing here.

    1%


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    #7655
    Cilldara_2000
    Registered Users Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭Cilldara_2000


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Can someone tell me what's going on with the 53% male and 46% female. What am I missing here.

    6 unknown.


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    #7656
    bekker
    Registered Users Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    greenfield21 wrote: »
    Yet the company denied that, the media were so desperate to get a story out against trump they found a random "source" in the German government without ever fact checking it.
    Untrue, head of company who was in talks with US 'resigned' and founder and developer of research application is back in charge.


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    #7657
    Un1corn
    Registered Users Posts: 124 ✭✭Un1corn


    cameramonkey wrote: »
    Is there any evidence that China is now hiding numbers? If there is please point it out.

    No. I have not said there is evidence of them hiding the number. I said it is likely they are hiding numbers based on how the regime has operated at present and in the past. Given China's nature, we simply cannot know and I think it is safer to assume they are lying. China doesn't do transparency and I fail to invest trust in such systems. Furthermore is there any evidence they are telling the truth or reason to believe them that I am missing?

    Some possible reports of understated deathcount:
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-27/stacks-of-urns-in-wuhan-prompt-new-questions-of-virus-s-toll

    https://nypost.com/2020/03/28/shipments-of-urns-in-wuhan-raise-questions-about-chinas-coronavirus-reporting/

    Last one is by a well known Chinese dissident.
    https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/fqbdup/wuhan_endless_queues_for_ashes_of_coronavirus/


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    #7658
    PTH2009
    Registered Users Posts: 38,148 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    How have the hospitals been here ?? Are they like warzones

    I'm thankful and lucky I didn't have to go to one at this current time. Touch wood I don't have too


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    #7659
    Blaze420
    Closed Accounts Posts: 904 ✭✭✭Blaze420


    mosii wrote: »
    China has thousands more deaths then its saying,its a totalitarian country,and has been lying for years about everything.We cant rely on them.

    Of course they do because they were filling trucks with bodies to be cremated when it kicked off and misclassifying the cause of death of many early patients / their death total is far far higher than any statistic they wish to put out.


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    #7660
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users Posts: 15,210 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Acey10 wrote: »
    has anyone been stopped by the guards out today?

    Yup twice while driving to the shops at a checkpoint.

    Went out for a walk myself and was stopped on the seafront asked where I was going to and how far from home I was (was within the 2k)


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    #7661
    New Home
    Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 76,705 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Can someone tell me what's going on with the 53% male and 46% female. What am I missing here.

    1% undisclosed?


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    #7662
    Hobgoblin11
    Registered Users Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    Acey10 wrote: »
    has anyone been stopped by the guards out today?

    yes, apparently you are not allowed to drive on the footpath in a lawnmower with an open long neck bottle of Corona, he thought I was taking the piss

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



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    #7663
    SharpshooterTom
    Registered Users Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭SharpshooterTom


    https://twitter.com/vincekearney/status/1244010427530518528


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    #7664
    jesus_thats_gre
    Registered Users Posts: 17,441 ✭✭✭✭jesus_thats_gre


    Lavinia wrote: »
    not sure what is that you are showing but its not true, (unfortunately)

    507416.JPG

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy/

    Sourced from here:

    https://www.linkedin.com/posts/searchguy_covid-covid19-covid19italia-activity-6649718543220785153-WAqz

    Have to admit, may have naively assumed they are factual.


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    #7665
    Thelonious Monk
    Registered Users Posts: 13,965 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    New Home wrote: »
    1% undisclosed?

    Don't subscribe to gender, or something?


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    #7666
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users Posts: 13,289 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    The Assembly in the North doing a solo run with their new measures tonight. Odd timing, given there are no local news bulletins in Northern Ireland on a Saturday evening.


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    #7667
    FVP3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭FVP3


    voluntary wrote: »
    Thousands?



    https://www.ejinsight.com/eji/article/id/2412704/20200325-delving-into-the-decline-in-china-mobile-phone-accounts

    So you think that all those people died and subsequently stopped paying their mobile phone bills?


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    #7668
    Lavinia
    Registered Users Posts: 8,089 ✭✭✭Lavinia


    I am tired with these newly registered people throwing all kinds of conspiracy theories here about this country or that country.. geez lads give it a break
    nobody cares what you privately believe or not :rolleyes:


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    #7669
    bekker
    Registered Users Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    :confused::confused::confused:

    Are't there fora for conspiracy theories?


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    #7670
    BanditLuke
    Registered Users Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    Deaths are starting to tick up now in Germany, 82 new deaths today and nearly 7,000 new cases. Brings the total number of deaths to 433.

    Whilst the rate of increase in deaths is sharply increasing the country still has an extraordinary low death rate compared to every other country.

    Different mustard over there. They contact traced and tested like wild men whilst we argued about rugby games and a parade here.

    The massive cover up from the Chinese from the get go is going to cost the planet dearly in the coming weeks and months. Some people still seem to believe they only had a few thousand deaths there also, bless.


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    #7671
    niallo27
    Registered Users Posts: 16,011 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    voluntary wrote: »
    Thousands?



    https://www.ejinsight.com/eji/article/id/2412704/20200325-delving-into-the-decline-in-china-mobile-phone-accounts

    Well so many were out of work maybe paying their Bill's was there least of their worries.


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    #7672
    New Home
    Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 76,705 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    Don't subscribe to gender, or something?

    More like the reports received by the authorities didn't specify.


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    #7673
    Nonoperational
    Registered Users Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭Nonoperational


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    How have the hospitals been here ?? Are they like warzones

    I'm thankful and lucky I didn't have to go to one at this current time. Touch wood I don't have too

    Still ok for now. Far less non COVID presentations.


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    #7674
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 14,599 Mod ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    jesus_thats_gre wrote: »
    Sourced from here:

    https://www.linkedin.com/posts/searchguy_covid-covid19-covid19italia-activity-6649718543220785153-WAqz

    Have to admit, may have naively assumed they are factual.
    Number of cases as a % of new cases is trending down. Number of new cases is static enough.


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    #7675
    jackboy
    Registered Users Posts: 4,529 ✭✭✭jackboy


    cloudatlas wrote: »
    What would you have done, he is a diplomat he is on the spot he can alienate one or he can alienate the other. There is no choice. All he can do is look at what the current landscape is and respond accordingly. Can you imagine if they were political and went around pissing off various governments then nobody would listen to them. He is a diplomat.

    Well he is a failed diplomat then. He was clearly speaking for China. He could have just said ‘no comment’ or ‘I’m not answering that question’..


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    #7676
    Ninthlife
    Registered Users Posts: 2,266 ✭✭✭Ninthlife


    New Home wrote: »
    More like the reports received by the authorities didn't specify.

    Or they were Aliens

    David Icke was right all along...that 1% were lizard people


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    #7677
    This is it
    Registered Users Posts: 5,336 ✭✭✭This is it


    Lavinia wrote: »
    not sure what is that you are showing but its not true, (unfortunately)

    507416.JPG

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy/

    It's percentage graphs... Which are correct.


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    #7678
    fr336
    Registered Users Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    Worldometers is such a great site. Of active cases in Italy, 94% are mild and 6% are critical. It's still really really bad, but not as mad sounding as the headlines...


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    #7679
    Nesta99
    Registered Users Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭Nesta99


    If the virus was anything like this thread we'd be in really serious trouble - I cant keep up with the sheer volume of posts!!


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    #7680
    Lavinia
    Registered Users Posts: 8,089 ✭✭✭Lavinia


    This is it wrote: »
    It's percentage graphs... Which are correct.
    Yes but number of newly infected is not going down


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    #7681
    Talisman
    Registered Users Posts: 6,138 ✭✭✭Talisman


    Cilldara_2000 wrote: »
    Could easily be 4 admitted between the time 67 were counted and he said 71.
    That makes it sound like the daily game that is played with counting how many patients are on a trolley in the hospitals.


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