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CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

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  • #7532
    Un1corn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 126 ✭✭Un1corn


    ThomasFlynn wrote: »
    Why do the WHO refuse to recognise Taiwan?? The girl in this video was asking the WHO official about the effects of the Coronavirus in Taiwan and the spokesman firstly said he couldn't hear her question, then told her to move on the next question. She persisted and the WHO official included of Taiwan under "all regions of China" refusing to recognise it as a state and only spoke of it in terms of China? Why?? :confused:
    https://twitter.com/guypbenson/status/1243977329132613633

    Taiwan isn't allowed into the WHO because the babies in Beijing will throw a tantrum. The WHO are in cahoots with China. There are reports of the WHO ignoring questions from Taiwanese journalists early in this epidemic. Taiwan raised the warning alarms in early December about this but the WHO ignored it to not offend their masters in Beijing. Read below:

    https://www.ft.com/content/2a70a02a-644a-11ea-a6cd-df28cc3c6a68

    If you are unfamiliar with the politics. China refuses to recognize Taiwan as a country and claims it is theirs. De Facto it is an independent country and Beijing's claims are just an inconvenience for them.


  • #7533
    johnfás
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,345 ✭✭✭johnfás


    jesus_thats_gre wrote: »
    As disappointing as this is, I suspect no one will be particularly surprised. Italy is clearly in dire straits. If roles were reversed, there would uproar here if such equipment was exported.

    However, a robust arbitration process must by implemented by the EU as this cannot happen when destination countries are also in dire straights. That **** will tear the EU apart.

    50% of the worlds ventilators are manufactured in Ireland we are exporting....

    https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.rte.ie/amp/1123803/


  • #7534
    timhenn
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 514 ✭✭✭timhenn


    We're all ****ed.


  • #7535
    Logan Roy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 452 ✭✭Logan Roy


    marklazarcovic wrote: »
    In just under 4 months this has killed over 30000 people,a thing that did not exist,and it's only beginning, people go on about other viruses that kill more,they have been around decades ,years.. this thing,the measures been taken tells me it's worse then I'm seeing ..

    Not a chance I believe Chinese figures .

    It's hard to fathom but the world as we know it may have changed forever.

    Not trying to scare or enflame

    What do you think will change forever?


  • #7536
    otnomart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭otnomart


    bekker wrote: »
    Italians have been adapting French diving masks with 3-D printed fittings.


    "This new part was named Charlotte valve.
    The patent will remain free to use because it is in our intention that all hospitals in need could use it if necessary,”




    https://www.3dprintingmedia.network/isinnova-shares-3d-printed-adapter-to-turn-snorkeling-mask-into-a-non-invasive-ventilator/


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  • #7537
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    marklazarcovic wrote: »
    In just under 4 months this has killed over 30000 people,a thing that did not exist,and it's only beginning, people go on about other viruses that kill more,they have been around decades ,years.. this thing,the measures been taken tells me it's worse then I'm seeing ..

    Not a chance I believe Chinese figures .

    It's hard to fathom but the world as we know it may have changed forever.

    Not trying to scare or enflame

    Well 30,000 is still not a particularly high number, flu does in fact kill around 500,000 worldwide every year . But yes coronavirus uncontrolled would kill significantly more than that, and in places where it was uncontrolled such as Madrid Lombardy wuhan New York City it did kill many more times the number of people who would die from flu in that area in that space of time


  • #7538
    Sober Crappy Chemis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 461 ✭✭Sober Crappy Chemis


    timhenn wrote: »
    We're all ****ed.

    No.


  • #7539
    cameramonkey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    marklazarcovic wrote: »
    In just under 4 months this has killed over 30000 people,a thing that did not exist,and it's only beginning, people go on about other viruses that kill more,they have been around decades ,years.. this thing,the measures been taken tells me it's worse then I'm seeing ..

    Not a chance I believe Chinese figures .

    It's hard to fathom but the world as we know it may have changed forever.

    Not trying to scare or enflame


    Where do we start with this one ??????


  • #7540
    fr336
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    It's really great to see these positive stories coming out about 90 and 100 somethings coming through this. One of them was in Italy, which begs the question what happened to the Italians basically giving up on anyone over 65? Or was this just certain areas? Really hope that with the assistance from Chiina they can get on top of this.

    Also are there any stats on what % of elderly people survive this? We keep being told they are easily the most at risk age group but given we have at least three stories of people in their 90s and 100s beating this apparently unstoppable virus, surely it's conceivable that when all is said and done a LOT of people in their 60s, 70s and beyond will fight this crap off?


  • #7541
    Pencil Neck
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 46 ✭Pencil Neck


    ThomasFlynn wrote: »
    Why do the WHO refuse to recognise Taiwan?? The girl in this video was asking the WHO official about the effects of the Coronavirus in Taiwan and the spokesman firstly said he couldn't hear her question, then told her to move on the next question. She persisted and the WHO official included of Taiwan under "all regions of China" refusing to recognise it as a state and only spoke of it in terms of China? Why?? :confused:
    https://twitter.com/guypbenson/status/1243977329132613633

    No one recognises Taiwan. It’s viewed by most nations as a renegade Chinese Provence.


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  • #7542
    jesus_thats_gre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,442 ✭✭✭✭jesus_thats_gre


    ThomasFlynn wrote: »
    Why do the WHO refuse to recognise Taiwan?? The girl in this video was asking the WHO official about the effects of the Coronavirus in Taiwan and the spokesman firstly said he couldn't hear her question, then told her to move on the next question. She persisted and the WHO official included of Taiwan under "all regions of China" refusing to recognise it as a state and only spoke of it in terms of China? Why?? :confused:
    https://twitter.com/guypbenson/status/1243977329132613633

    Why is that particularly important right now? The most important thing for WHO right now is the co-operation of China. Talking about the political situation between China and Taiwan would not serve WHO objectives.

    WHO really cannot win in this situation.

    There is also a well and long documented history of wealthy countries exerting political pressure on WHO.


  • #7543
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    johnfás wrote: »
    50% of the worlds ventilators are manufactured in Ireland we are exporting....

    Made in Ireland by American companies.


  • #7544
    timhenn
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 514 ✭✭✭timhenn


    Sober Crappy Chemis wrote: »
    No.

    We are. This isn't going to end anytime soon. It's time to face the reality.


  • #7545
    Sober Crappy Chemis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 461 ✭✭Sober Crappy Chemis


    timhenn wrote: »
    We are. This isn't going to end anytime soon. It's time to face the reality.

    No.


  • #7546
    Funkfield
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,602 ✭✭✭Funkfield


    Corkgirl20 wrote: »
    I think every health care worker should get a bonus after this !!

    I was thinking there should probably be some tax incentives or programs like the military discount in the USA.

    https://militarybenefits.info/military-discounts/


  • #7547
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Seeds for growing veg has been mentioned a bit, just go to Lidl and buy them. They have a full range of veg, flower seeds.


  • #7548
    GM228
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,922 ✭✭✭GM228


    Ireland Coronavirus Statistics - Day 29 - Saturday 28/03/2020

    Today's Stats:-
    Total cases: 2415
    Daily case increase: 13.86%
    Daily case confirmation increase/decrease: -2.65%
    Mortality rate: 1.49%
    Recovery rate: 0.21%
    Poplulation infected: 0.049%

    Average daily cases change since day 1 (29/02/20): 35.15%
    Average daily cases change last 10 days (since 19/03/20): 21.19%
    Average daily cases change last 7 days (since 22/03/20): 17.45%
    Average daily cases last 3 days (since 26/03/20): 15.59%

    Average daily case confirmation since day 1 (29/02/20): 42.02%
    Average daily case confirmation last 10 days (since 19/03/20): 23.73%
    Average daily case confirmation last 7 days (since 22/03/20): 18.89%
    Average daily case confirmation last 3 days (since 26/03/20): 8.10%


    For comparrison, yesterday's day 1, 3 day, 7 day and 10 day averages:-
    GM228 wrote: »
    Average daily cases change since day 1 (29/02/20): 35.92%
    Average daily cases change last 10 days (since 18/03/20): 22.34%
    Average daily cases change last 7 days (since 21/03/20): 17.61%
    Average daily cases last 3 days (since 25/03/20): 16.86%

    Average daily case confirmation since day 1 (29/02/20): 43.62%
    Average daily case confirmation last 10 days (since 18/03/20): 24.72%
    Average daily case confirmation last 7 days (since 21/03/20): 16.55%
    Average daily case confirmation last 3 days (since 25/03/20): 14.05%



    DAY
    |
    DATE
    |
    Cases
    |
    New Cases
    |
    Total Cases
    |
    Case Increase
    |
    Daily Reporting Change
    |
    Deaths to date
    |
    Mortality Rate
    |
    Hospitalised
    |
    Hospital Rate
    |
    ICU
    |
    ICU Rate
    |
    *Recovered
    |
    Recovery Rate
    |
    Population %

    1|29/02/2020|0|1|1|0.00%|0%|0|N/A|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.000%
    2|01/03/2020|1|0|1|0.00%|0%|0|N/A|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.000%
    3|02/03/2020|1|0|1|0.00%|0%|0|N/A|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.000%
    4|03/03/2020|1|1|2|100.00%|0%|0|N/A|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.000%
    5|04/03/2020|2|4|6|200.00%|300.00%|0|N/A|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.000%
    6|05/03/2020|6|7|13|116.67%|75.00%|0|N/A|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.000%
    7|06/03/2020|13|5|18|38.46%|-28.57%|0|N/A|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.000%
    8|07/03/2020|18|1|19|5.56%|-80.00%|0|N/A|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.000%
    9|08/03/2020|19|2|21|10.53%|100.00%|0|N/A|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.000%
    10|09/03/2020|21|3|24|14.29%|50.00%|0|N/A|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.000%
    11|10/03/2020|24|10|34|41.67%|233.33%|0|N/A|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.001%
    12|11/03/2020|34|9|43|26.47%|-10.00%|1|2.33%|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.001%
    13|12/03/2020|43|27|70|62.79%|200.00%|1|1.43%|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.001%
    14|13/03/2020|70|20|90|28.57%|-25.93%|1|1.11%|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.002%
    15|14/03/2020|90|39|129|43.33%|95.00%|2|1.55%|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.003%
    16|15/03/2020|129|40|169|31.01%|2.56%|2|1.18%|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.003%
    17|16/03/2020|169|54|223|31.95%|35.00%|2|0.90%|84|37.7%|6|2.69%|5|2.24%|0.005%
    18|17/03/2020|223|69|292|30.94%|27.78%|2|0.68%|108|37%|7|2.40%|5|1.71%|0.006%
    19|18/03/2020|292|74|366|25.34%|7.25%|2|0.55%|140|38.8%|12|3.28%%|5|1.37%|0.007%
    20|19/03/2020|366|191|557|52.19%|158.11%|3|0.54%|173|31.1%|13|2.33%|5|0.9%|0.011%
    21|20/03/2020|557|126|683|22.62%|-34.03%|3|0.44%|211|30.9%|13|1.90%|5|0.73%|0.014%
    22|21/03/2020|683|102|785|14.93%|-19.05%|3|0.38%|239|30.4%|25|3.18%|5|0.64%|0.016%
    23|22/03/2020|785|121|906|15.41%|18.63%|4|0.44%|277|30.6%|36|3.97%|5|0.64%|0.018%
    24|23/03/2020|906|219|1125|24.17%|80.99%|6|0.53%|305|27.1%|39|3.47%|5|0.44%|0.023%
    25|24/03/2020|1129|204|1329|18.13%|-6.85%|7|0.53%|340|25.61|47|3.54%|5|0.38%|0.027%
    26|25/03/2020|1329|235|1564|17.68%|15.20%|9|0.58%|419|26.8%|59|3.77%|5|0.32%|0.032%
    27|26/03/2020|1564|255|1819|16.30%|8.51%|19|1.04%|489|26.9|67|3.68%|5|0.27%|0.037%
    28|27/03/2020|1819|302|2121|16.60%|18.43%|22|1.04%|NR|NR|67|3.16%|5|0.24%|0.043%
    29|28/03/2020|2121|294|2415|13.86%|-2.65%|36|1.49%|NR|NR|67|2.77%|5|0.21%|0.049%

    NR = Not Reported

    Source: Department of Health and the Health Protection Surveillaence Centre.

    *"Recovered" rates are not reported by the Department of Health in the above link, these figures are taken from the Worldmeters and Johns Hopkins websites which use data suplied by the DoT to the ECDC under the WHO Guidelines for reporting.

    Day 20 - Thursday 19/03/20 Stats
    Day 21 - Friday 20/03/20 Stats
    Day 22 - Saturday 21/03/20 Stats
    Day 23 - Sunday 22/03/20 Stats
    Day 24 - Monday 23/03/20 Stats
    Day 25 - Tuesday 24/03/20 Stats
    Day 26 - Wednesday 25/03/20 Stats
    Day 27 - Thursday 26/03/20 Stats
    Day 28 - Friday 27/03/20 Stats


  • #7549
    timhenn
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 514 ✭✭✭timhenn


    Sober Crappy Chemis wrote: »
    No.

    You're ****ed anyway whether you face up to it or not.


  • #7550
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,192 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    marklazarcovic wrote: »
    In just under 4 months this has killed over 30000 people,a thing that did not exist,and it's only beginning, people go on about other viruses that kill more,they have been around decades ,years.. this thing,the measures been taken tells me it's worse then I'm seeing ..

    Not a chance I believe Chinese figures .

    It's hard to fathom but the world as we know it may have changed forever.

    Not trying to scare or enflame

    60% of deaths have been in last week or 2....we're online to have 10K deaths a day across the world inside the month


    Chinas deaths must be in the 45-48K mark imo


  • #7551
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    India in lock down mode...

    https://twitter.com/Holbornlolz/status/1243912014449258496

    That will end well....


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  • #7552
    Sober Crappy Chemis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 461 ✭✭Sober Crappy Chemis


    timhenn wrote: »
    You're ****ed anyway whether you face up to it or not.

    Still no.


  • #7553
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    This was in a video that was linked earlier. It's a sign on a window in China saying


    "We currently don't except visitors with a temperature of 37.3"

    Why is their temperature for fever set low at 37.3?



    I thought here the temperature to look out for and for self isolation is 37.8?


  • #7554
    Naos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,740 ✭✭✭Naos


    FVP3 wrote: »
    That's the law, it has always been like that.

    Yes, I'm well aware of that. It's the reason I said they should be less strict.

    You do understand what is happening, right?


  • #7555
    jesus_thats_gre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,442 ✭✭✭✭jesus_thats_gre


    johnfás wrote: »
    50% of the worlds ventilators are manufactured in Ireland we are exporting....

    https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.rte.ie/amp/1123803/

    We are not in dire straights. Yet anyway.

    We are also a tiny country that is economically subservient to larger countries that will likely end up in as bad a situation as Italy. i.e. the US.

    We are going to be in a very difficult situation if we do end up peaking at the same time at the parent countries of many of those manufactures. Hopefully other companies will step up and allow us to skirt the problem completely.


  • #7556
    MrMusician18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,127 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Made in Ireland by American companies.

    With imported parts


  • #7557
    Funkfield
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,602 ✭✭✭Funkfield


    Pencil Neck wrote: »
    No one recognises Taiwan. It’s viewed by most nations as a renegade Chinese Provence.

    I recognise Taiwan.


  • #7558
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,193 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    owlbethere wrote: »
    This was in a video that was linked earlier. It's a sign on a window in China saying

    "We currently don't except visitors with a temperature of 37.3"

    Why is their temperature for fever set low at 37.3?

    I thought here the temperature to look out for and for self isolation is 37.8?

    I thought 39 or higher
    https://forumofgames.com/




  • #7559
    johnfás
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,345 ✭✭✭johnfás


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Made in Ireland by American companies.

    Sure. Irish incorporated subsidiaries of American companies which are subject to Irish law. So Ireland could do what Italy did, but didn’t. Just a fact.


  • #7560
    mouldybiscuits
    Closed Accounts Posts: 94 ✭✭mouldybiscuits


    FVP3 wrote: »
    You should try that logic with everything you read about China, since I doubt you are reading the Chinese press. The press you are reading is one that convinced its ovine population to go to war with Iraq on a tissue of lies.



    It cant be fully controlled without a vaccine. It been fully reported that they are relaxing some but not all restrictions. Then if the case numbers increase, unrelax the restrictions. That's what we are going to have to do for the rest of the year.




    Because cases are rising again, which they are in fact showing in their statistics.



    In response to Trump banning Chinese journalists. They have only expelled US journalists, not Western journalists.

    https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/mar/18/us-media-accuse-china-of-cold-war-mentality-after-move-to-expel-journalists

    Wow I wasn't expecting so see this kind of logical opinion on boards. Most have become closed minded due to Western propaganda. Well said.


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  • #7561
    timhenn
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 514 ✭✭✭timhenn


    Sober Crappy Chemis wrote: »
    Still no.

    Come back tome in a year if we're both still alive.


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