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CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

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  • #7442
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,394 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    Rob A. Bank wrote: »
    Ohh so the public must be 'cocooned' from the dangerous over 70s

    I thought it was the other way around !

    :rolleyes:

    Is she not capable of infecting other people?


  • #7443
    Thelonious Monk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,352 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    declanflynn wrote: »
    My father in law used to go for a few pints almost every night, hes going a bit mad since the pubs closed, he wants to sow a vegetable garden, does anyone know where or how I can buy seeds?

    I usually buy mine online. If he hurries he can still plant tomatoes, very easy to grow indoors or in a greenhouse.


  • #7444
    marilynrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 758 ✭✭✭marilynrr


    Rob A. Bank wrote: »
    Have the powers that be considered the effects of this 'house arrest without trial' on the over 70s.

    They have a one in five chance of dying due to coronavirus.

    What chance have they without fresh air and exercise... DVT risk, pulmonary embolism, depression etc. ?

    Less than one in five ?

    It has been established that they will be triaged and not get a critical care bed or a ventilator if they present to hospital, no matter how ill they are.

    What is the point in enforcing this charade ?

    I personally think that right now during this current lockdown that the elderly and vulnerable should do their bit like the rest of us to avoid it spreading to others, but after that it should be up to them if they want to be cocooned or not.

    Some of the elderly vulnerable people do not have long left to live anyway, and it's not fair to deny them the chance to live out the rest of their days as normally as possible in the way that they choose.


  • #7445
    RebelButtMunch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭RebelButtMunch


    declanflynn wrote: »
    My father in law used to go for a few pints almost every night, hes going a bit mad since the pubs closed, he wants to sow a vegetable garden, does anyone know where or how I can buy seeds?

    Try mr Middleton website


  • #7446
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 2,016 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ziggyman17 wrote: »
    how many have you infected ?

    No you,
    You,
    How about you...


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  • #7447
    redarmy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,858 ✭✭✭redarmy


    Simon Harris TD
    @SimonHarrisTD
    ·
    5m
    Will do a quick Twitter live update in 5 mins on #coronavirus and work underway today


  • #7448
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,128 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    declanflynn wrote: »
    My father in law used to go for a few pints almost every night, hes going a bit mad since the pubs closed, he wants to sow a vegetable garden, does anyone know where or how I can buy seeds?

    Google seeds online Ireland for a start.

    Deliveries are still happening. Best of luck.


  • #7449
    jesus_thats_gre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,442 ✭✭✭✭jesus_thats_gre


    coastwatch wrote: »
    Italian doctors issued a plea last week to other countries to try to treat as many cases as possible at home, to avoid hospital transmissions.

    They also recommended setting up Covid 19 only medical centres similar to the "Fever Hospital" approach taken in London 200 years ago.
    https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/21/coronavirus-plea-from-italy-treat-patients-at-home/

    Tallaght is becoming one, no?


  • #7450
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 2,016 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Infecting people by purposely not following guidelines because you simply don't want to is different than accidentally infecting people while adhering to good practice.

    The virus doesn't discriminate. Try not to infect anyone if you can.


  • #7451
    Un1corn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 126 ✭✭Un1corn


    Donald Trump wrote: »
    SARS was serious in China a few years back. As was bird flu. As was swine flu. Do you think that they similarly failed to get those under control. Perhaps they are still rampant in China and for some miraculous reason they aren't escaping the border......



    In 2019 Swine flu ravaged China's economy and pork prices soared. It is still ongoing but it isn't contagious in people seemingly and is localized there.

    SARS in 2003 was much easier to contain. It didn't have a long incubation period and wasn't as infectious as the new one.


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  • #7452
    ziggyman17
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭ziggyman17


    tuxy wrote: »
    How would people get food with all shops closed?

    you refer to people staying in and isolating as a charade... How is self isolating for 2 weeks a charade ? The medical experts have said that the virus lasts for 2 weeks, so having most of the population self isolating for 2 weeks, will mean that the majority of the country will not get the virus, and those that have it will not be able to pass it on as they will hopefully have recovered by then... A lot of posters on here seem to relish the misery and sadness this virus brings, and will question anything that they are told by medical experts, it seems that a lot of posters here know a lot more than people who have spent a lifetime and career studying medicine.........


  • #7453
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    ZX7R wrote: »
    Just my opinion, but can't help but notice both the English and American midia are using bad news from other countries in regards to the outbreak to deflect from there own problems

    HSE always give their briefing and quote international numbers directly after ours. Gives a nice comparison that not that bad here. Every country at the same ****.
    • Testing criteria
    • Post mortem testing
    • 2 day delay in reporting anatomised figures in order to "inform the family". Makes no sense as now there are so many cases in ICU that it is impossible to know.


  • #7454
    Red for Danger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 128 ✭✭Red for Danger


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    It helps shape my opinion of people's attitudes and I will continue posting tweets and videos as I see fit to make my points.

    There is an ignore button on the left. You don't have to view anything from me.

    Post and tweet away
    Why would I put on ignore
    I'm trying to reshape your opinion to the correct opinion
    Try this
    Imagine thousands and thousands of miles of empty streets supermarkets parks towns and villages
    Ghost town after ghost town
    Imagine a million of hours of it. You'll have to imagine it because nobody it going to post a video of something so boring
    Then hold your 30secs of action next to it


  • #7455
    Genghis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,224 ✭✭✭Genghis


    Tip my hat to this man, who ran the distance of the London Marathon in his back garden.

    https://www.itv.com/news/london/2020-03-28/i-ve-trodden-down-all-the-grass-man-runs-marathon-in-garden-during-lockdown/

    I managed 18000 steps (18k) myself pushing a lawnmower. Gonna smash the 20k with a little lockdown compliant and risk free run by myself later.


  • #7456
    Naos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,740 ✭✭✭Naos


    RobertKK wrote: »
    I have done online grocery shopping since 2012, I have never seen it so busy, for obvious reasons, but it seems the longterm customers of this service are being sacrificed with the wave of new people who signed up.
    It is the longterm customers who made it a success and then we have a minister saying those of us who have used this service and made it a success if under 65 should go to the supermarket now. I know this sounds selfish but this service is there because of people who supported it in the quieter times and for many years, and I don't think we should be sacrificed for people under 65 who never used the service before.
    It is like a rat race for time slots for deliveries now.

    They need to be a little less strict on the alcohol side of things.

    I just went to pick a 'collection' slot between 09:00-13:00 and wasn't allowed to have alcohol in my shop because they can't sell alcohol before 11am...


  • #7457
    paul71
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,369 ✭✭✭paul71


    Rob A. Bank wrote: »
    Ohh so the public must be 'cocooned' from the dangerous over 70s

    I thought it was the other way around !

    :rolleyes:

    Sometimes with the elderly there is simply no reasoning, be it dementia or simple stubbornness. I had an issue with my father during the week. In the end I stopped arguing with him and took away his car keys.


  • #7458
    Rob A. Bank
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    Is she not capable of infecting other people?

    No more so than anyone else who observes all the recommended mitigation tactics.


  • #7459
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 2,016 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    I'm following the guidelines. This woman isn't. Why is it nasty to question that? Please explain.

    You asked, sarcastically, how many people has she infected. That's a mean uncalled for comment.


  • #7460
    ziggyman17
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭ziggyman17


    Deleted User wrote: »
    No you,
    You,
    How about you...

    none, I have listened to the professional people giving out tips and advice since day one.. I suggest you take the same advice........


  • #7461
    Tell me how
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,061 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Rob A. Bank wrote: »
    Demean the poster... nice tactic.

    How about answering any of the questions ?

    Your questions were nonsensical.

    Do you not think the pros and cons of cocooning have been considered before the decision was made to adopt this strategy?


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  • #7462
    Un1corn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 126 ✭✭Un1corn


    Germany experiencing quite scare numbers now also. 6933 yesterday, 6824 today.


  • #7463
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 2,016 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ziggyman17 wrote: »
    none, I have listened to the professional people giving out tips and advice since day one.. I suggest you take the same advice........

    You have infected no one?


  • #7464
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,458 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    1641 wrote: »
    Also, when this is over, there will be such a backlog of demand on HSE services that it may be especially useful to have private health cover.
    There's going to be a pretty big backlog across the board. I currently have 2, possibly 3, issues I would normally be progressing through PHI. I'm sitting it out which is entirely right in the current circumstances. They are all chronic rather than acute issues and another 6-12 months will be inconvenient but unlikely to kill me (AFAIK, but I'm not a doctor:pac:)


  • #7465
    kilkenny31
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 701 ✭✭✭kilkenny31


    Naos wrote: »
    They need to be a little less strict on the alcohol side of things.

    I just went to pick a 'collection' slot between 09:00-13:00 and wasn't allowed to have alcohol in my shop because they can't sell alcohol before 11am...


    I was thinking it would be a fun time for a social experiment. Close all off license and alcohol sales in supermarkets. See how the country fairs out.


  • #7466
    paul71
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,369 ✭✭✭paul71


    declanflynn wrote: »
    My father in law used to go for a few pints almost every night, hes going a bit mad since the pubs closed, he wants to sow a vegetable garden, does anyone know where or how I can buy seeds?


    Lidl or Aldi normally have them at this time of year.


  • #7467
    declanflynn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭declanflynn


    Spanish Eyes wrote: »
    Google seeds online Ireland for a start.

    Deliveries are still happening. Best of luck.
    Dont think they are, that's my problem


  • #7468
    amadangomor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    Cilldara_2000 wrote: »
    It might be worth phoning your GP again. I have asthma. It's a bitch without inhalers but not noticeable with them. Did they prescribe inhalers or other treatment for the asthma?

    Have an inhaler. Getting better at using it :) Helps alright but still breathing is quite laboured.
    Coughing up clear phlegm. Think that is that normal for asthma?

    Even simple things like loading dishwasher am puffed out afterwards.

    Whatever caused it is nasty. If Covid the virus is probably gone so would pass test at this stage. Hopefully antibody tests to come soon.


  • #7469
    Marlow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,555 ✭✭✭✭Marlow


    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    When did we know that? Didn't hear anyone talking about it until January.

    Bill Gates predicted it 5 years ago.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Af6b_wyiwI


    /M


  • #7470
    FVP3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭FVP3


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    It helps shape my opinion of people's attitudes and I will continue posting tweets and videos as I see fit to make my points.

    There is an ignore button on the left. You don't have to view anything from me.

    Nearly all your videos and links have an agenda. No need to ignore you, though. Its just as easy to refute.


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  • #7471
    Tea drinker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,818 ✭✭✭Tea drinker


    YFlyer wrote: »
    Just at Aldi, Dublin road Limerick. Nice and quiet.
    Was about an hour to get into Dunnes Cornelscourt today
    Message on loop to hurry up and if that doesn't work the staff will approach you


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