CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

smallfryy wrote: »

Why are there so many deaths all of a sudden? Is it because hospitals are so busy? Or are we just starting to see the impact now?

brendanwalsh wrote: »

Most of these new death spikes are because it has infiltrated nursing homes, and when these patients present to hospital they are not offered ICU care or ventilators.

The ICU admission criteria for Ireland is very strict unlike other parts of the world.

Unfortunately they already draw an arbitrary line across people with co-morbidities, this will be further accentuated now due to ventilator supply being very low.

Wibbs wrote: »

Their society was hierarchical and for far longer. It's why they had brief periods of incredible innovation followed by stagnation. In simple terms, there was no point in coming up with a better mousetrap if you're a pottery maker. You'd be ignored for the most part. Social movement was extremely regimented. Your example of the examinations a good example of that. You mentioned Confucianism, but left out Taoism. That had a huge impact and stymied innovation. Centralised, insular, inward looking and stagnated by monumental bureaucracy. Take printing. They(and the Koreans) came up with it and did little enough with it. It comes to Europe and it changed human civilisation within the span of a human lifetime. Take gunpowder. Ditto. If you took a Chinese peasant from the tenth century and transported him to eighteenth century China he'd see few differences, if you did the same with a European peasant his head would spin.

So nah overall, I think I'll still take Western culture and politics and philosophies over the Chinese empire's ta very much. Hell, in many ways they themselves do. If you removed western tech and surface culture from modern China, you'd have a very different looking country indeed. And they're pretty good at the oul capitalism, though pretty crap at democracy.

Yurt! wrote: »

The Chinese Communist Party are not our friends. They're red ethno-nationalists who who just before the new year were mounting a propoganda campaign in the west that their network of concentration camps were trade schools.

If you're impressed by a few consignments of masks and gowns (that we'll be paying for remember) after the sh*tstorm they brought on the world, you're easily bought and impressed indeed.

It's really fascinating how some people are so succeptible to propaganda.

And also, FYI, Confucianism isn't a system of government, it's a set of cultural rites and frameworks for society and above all, ethical teachings. It was actually out of favour since the revolution, and has been recently superficially recussitated for nationailist purposes. Mainland China is probably the least Confucian (if that word even makes sense in the 21st century) of the Sino influenced East Asian states.

brendanwalsh wrote: »

Most of these new death spikes are because it has infiltrated nursing homes, and when these patients present to hospital they are not offered ICU care or ventilators.

The ICU admission criteria for Ireland is very strict unlike other parts of the world.

Unfortunately they already draw an arbitrary line across people with co-morbidities, this will be further accentuated now due to ventilator supply being very low.

Talisman wrote: »

Bruce Aylward (WHO) dodging questions regarding Taiwan:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1243865641448169474

ACitizenErased wrote: »

67 until Thursday midnight.

An Ciarraioch wrote:

67 as of Thursday.

BLIZZARD7 wrote: »

Why are we getting the ICU numbers of 67 up until Thursday night when we were told its 71 last night? Pointless to give an old number I would have thought.