CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03

The Hound Gone Wild · 28-03-2020 06:59PM

294 new cases
14 more deaths

Stheno · 28-03-2020 06:59PM

hotmail.com wrote: »

Parks to remain open according to that press conference a few minutes ago.

Was last night a complete joke?

My local councIl sent a text last night to say local pedestrian access to parks only

dodzy · 28-03-2020 06:59PM

smurf492 wrote: »

So businesses and factories get to decide if they are essential!!!... Absolute cop out

Yep, looks like a self-declaration type setup

28-03-2020 07:00PM

runawaybishop wrote: »

God but people are just arseholes. Bunch of selfish pricks beside where I live fishing, 2 cars just gone down in the last few minutes, multiple people in the car and now having a chat in the car park. It's amazing how many people think rules don't apply to them

Is fishing banned??

Cartel Mike · 28-03-2020 07:01PM

I originally asked this question and asked if it was down to simply having more beds available. They have a lot of beds but there has to be more to it than that. People harp on about Mekerl , Hitler etc etc. The Germans are efficient smart and conscientious people.

Whatever they're doing right , we could do worse that immitating them step for step!

dougm1970 · 28-03-2020 07:03PM

The Hound Gone Wild wrote: »

294 new cases
14 more deaths

here ?

billybonkers · 28-03-2020 07:03PM

294 new cases
14 more deaths

HSE update just now

ACitizenErased · 28-03-2020 07:03PM

https://twitter.com/CorkSafetyAlert/status/1243960667796836352?s=20

bennyl10 · 28-03-2020 07:03PM

dougm1970 wrote: »

here ?

Yes
13% increase

Deaths is again a worry

ACitizenErased · 28-03-2020 07:03PM

That's a lot of deaths, surely related to the nursing homes. RIP to all.

Larbre34 · 28-03-2020 07:04PM

14 new deaths and 294 new cases in the Republic today.

While I feel greatly for the bereaved families, these are very positive figures in the overall War on the virus, I really think we can kept the genie in the bottle to a large extent.

Keep going everyone, we will return to our normal lives all the sooner with this immense community effort.

WhiteMemento9 · 28-03-2020 07:04PM

Talisman wrote: »

Here's a recording of a Zoom call from a doctor in New York to his family and friends explaining how to protect themselves. Contains some good advice.

https://vimeo.com/399733860?ref=em-share

The idea of wearing masks to break the link between the face and the hands is really good.

Yurt2 · 28-03-2020 07:05PM

FVP3 wrote: »

All Europeans who suppose the Orange man are clearly deranged. Europe needs to leave NATO ( who also done nothing although MASH hospitals, medics, and sterilising equipment exist in the US barracks) and ally with our new friends in China.

The Chinese Communist Party are not our friends. They're red ethno-nationalists who who just before the new year were mounting a propoganda campaign in the west that their network of concentration camps were trade schools.

If you're impressed by a few consignments of masks and gowns (that we'll be paying for remember) after the sh*tstorm they brought on the world, you're easily bought and impressed indeed.

It's really fascinating how some people are so succeptible to propaganda.

And also, FYI, Confucianism isn't a system of government, it's a set of cultural rites and frameworks for society and above all, ethical teachings. It was actually out of favour since the revolution, and has been recently superficially recussitated for nationailist purposes. Mainland China is probably the least Confucian (if that word even makes sense in the 21st century) of the Sino influenced East Asian states.

Carbon125 · 28-03-2020 07:05PM

wakka12 wrote: »

It is the only logical explanation why Germany is experiencing such a small number of total deaths compared to other European countries. Most countries bordering Germany arre the hardest hit in Europe, there is no reason why the effects would be so much less across Germany

Fair enough if it was simply a much smaller proprtional death rate there, that could be exmplained easily by the amount of testing they are doing. But no, it is the total number of deaths, which is just so much smaller than the rest of Europe, it is unexplainable. Germany has the 2nd oldest population in europe and the third oldest in the world

You are wrong. Example of the description of the first two coronavirus victims in Germany (excerpts, Google Translate):

"A 78-year-old from Gangelt in the Heinsberg district of North Rhine-Westphalia is one of the first two dead from the corona virus in Germany. This was announced by district administrator Stephan Pusch. The man had reported symptoms at the Geilenkirchen hospital on Friday and had died of heart failure at 2 p.m. on Monday."

"The second death in Germany is an 89-year-old woman from Essen. According to a spokeswoman for the city, she had died of pneumonia as a result of the infection at 12:44 p.m."

https://www.spiegel.de/panorama/gesellschaft/coronavirus-in-heinsberg-verstorbener-78-jaehriger-besuchte-karnevalssitzung-a-2d3f6750-413f-41a5-8ea9-1ce796baae33

wakka12 · 28-03-2020 07:05PM

Ireland now has the 16th highest number of COVID deaths per capita in the world. If you exclude microstates with populations under 50k then it is 13th in the world

Humberto Salazar · 28-03-2020 07:05PM

smurf492 wrote: »

So businesses and factories get to decide if they are essential!!!... Absolute cop out

It is. Lots of political arm twisting involved I'm sure from the big ones. Shocking decision.

28-03-2020 07:05PM

wakka12 wrote: »

It is the only logical explanation why Germany is experiencing such a small number of total deaths compared to other European countries. Most countries bordering Germany arre the hardest hit in Europe, there is no reason why the effects would be so much less across Germany

The is another, more logical explanation..initially Germany was excellent at conducting testing and contact tracing, meaning they were catching mild cases and early cases before people got seriously ill. As they have gone on the death rate has risen day on day as people who were detected early have gotten worse and died. Resources will now be focused more on treatment that testing so would imagine death rate will continue to climb. Looking at the data I would say true death rate will be about 1% in places were health system holds up, and maybe 2-4% where it breaks down. Italy currently at close to 10%, but that tells me they have a huge number of undetected infections, probably closer to 300,000

I only base my estimates on a bit of guess work looking at the data. We will only know the true figure after this is done we know what proportion got the virus and the final death toll

PaybackPayroll · 28-03-2020 07:06PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Is fishing banned??

Yes, I believe so.
Unless you're catching a Jaws style fish and you're getting considerable exercise.

hotmail.com · 28-03-2020 07:07PM

Humberto Salazar wrote: »

It is. Lots of political arm twisting involved I'm sure from the big ones. Shocking decision.

What extra businesses etc are actually closing as of today. It seems like hardly any.

ACitizenErased · 28-03-2020 07:07PM

wakka12 wrote: »

Ireland now has the 13th highest number of COVID deaths per capita in the world

I think that is related to the fact that, unfortunately, we've had quite a large hospital/nursing home outbreak.

s1ippy · 28-03-2020 07:07PM

PaybackPayroll wrote: »

Yes, I believe so.
Unless you're catching a Jaws style fish and you're getting considerable exercise.

Why do you believe so?

Food outlets are designated essential services. It just said so on the news.

AdrianG08 · 28-03-2020 07:07PM

ICU numbers?

CIARAN_BOYLE · 28-03-2020 07:08PM

Cartel Mike wrote: »

I originally asked this question and asked if it was down to simply having more beds available. They have a lot of beds but there has to be more to it than that. People harp on about Mekerl , Hitler etc etc. The Germans are efficient smart and conscientious people.

Whatever they're doing right , we could do worse that immitating them step for step!

Germany are doing community testing like we are.

Spain Italy Belgium Netherlands and the UK are only testing people in the hospitals. Their numbers in terms of cases are a lot more accurate than many other countries.

I do know that there is bookkeeping differences but I don't know if that's universal. It's definitely happened that people have with covid 19 have died of pneumonia or heart attacks or something else and not been included in the statistics.

I know of 6 cases I've read about in the German media but it could be universal.

There have been suggestions in German media that a major killer is secondary infections from pneumonia is a major killer and that the incidence of the pneumonia vaccine in Germany is higher than the rest of Europe.

PaybackPayroll · 28-03-2020 07:08PM

s1ippy wrote: »

Why do you believe so?

Food outlets are designated essential services. It just said so on the news.

I didn't think of that angle - getting food.

28-03-2020 07:08PM

Hmmm, some craic trying to police this 2km brief exercise only ruling with the clocks going forward tonight, plus the weather due to remain fine well into next week. The weather really needs to be as miserable as f**k in the next while in all fairness to help with any restrictions on going out.

ACitizenErased · 28-03-2020 07:08PM

AdrianG08 wrote: »

ICU numbers?

67 until Thursday midnight.

shocksy · 28-03-2020 07:08PM

AdrianG08 wrote: »

ICU numbers?

67

Rob A. Bank · 28-03-2020 07:08PM

bennyl10 wrote: »

Yes
13% increase

Deaths is again a worry

Condolences to all the mourning families.

Unfortunately the deaths are probably the most reliable index of where we are on the infection curve.

No one knows how many positive tests were incinerated when the backlog was cleared.

An Ciarraioch · 28-03-2020 07:09PM

AdrianG08 wrote: »

ICU numbers?

67 as of Thursday.

adam88 · 28-03-2020 07:09PM

Is there any press briefing ???

CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

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CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03