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CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,351 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Talisman wrote: »
    Here's a recording of a Zoom call from a doctor in New York to his family and friends explaining how to protect themselves. Contains some good advice.

    https://vimeo.com/399733860?ref=em-share
    I watched that the other day and he does give good advice, though some of his advice is IMHO dubious. EG if someone comes down with what might be a cold in a family then after a few days if it goes away it probably was and go on as normal. Covid comes in many forms symptomatically and it can present in some like a mild cold.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    it then eaten by a Wuhanese male farmer ! Thats what i heard, not gospel though

    I don't think they ever tracked down patient zero (the index case).

    The medical workers who treated the first viral pneumonia cases associated with the wet market did not wear PPEs and suffered the consequences, with some paying with their lives. They did not know how dangerous the virus was at that stage.

    That also happened to those treating the first cases who had no contact with the wet market, including the unfortunate whistleblower. He treated a patient with Glaucoma who went on to have a temperature the next day, and was later found to have Covid-19.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 683 ✭✭✭smurf492


    So businesses and factories get to decide if they are essential!!!... Absolute cop out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,492 ✭✭✭✭billyhead


    A lad on BBC said once you get it your then immune to getting it again. How does he know? He's a doctor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭c.p.w.g.w


    893bet wrote: »
    I think we work for the same company lol

    Judging by the WhatsApp groups, the mood of the staff is not good


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Carbon125 wrote: »
    This is simply untrue.

    It is the only logical explanation why Germany is experiencing such a small number of total deaths compared to other European countries. Most countries bordering Germany arre the hardest hit in Europe, there is no reason why the effects would be so much less across Germany

    Fair enough if it was simply a much smaller proprtional death rate there, that could be exmplained easily by the amount of testing they are doing. But no, it is the total number of deaths, which is just so much smaller than the rest of Europe, it is unexplainable. Germany has the 2nd oldest population in europe and the third oldest in the world


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,702 ✭✭✭kyote00


    The staff are revolting :D
    c.p.w.g.w wrote: »
    Judging by the WhatsApp groups, the mood of the staff is not good


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,674 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Parks to remain open according to that press conference a few minutes ago.

    Was last night a complete joke?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 258 ✭✭Fishorsealant


    What time are the Irish statistics released at?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,096 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    is_that_so wrote: »
    And in the US Trump looks like delivering again - a quarantine

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52079121

    May as well do something but fairly sure it's too late for a quarantine of New York.

    This is shutting the horse after the stable door has bolted.

    Can't see how every major city is not going to be New York within days.

    It's everywhere.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 255 ✭✭The Hound Gone Wild


    294 new cases
    14 more deaths


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Parks to remain open according to that press conference a few minutes ago.

    Was last night a complete joke?

    My local councIl sent a text last night to say local pedestrian access to parks only


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,477 ✭✭✭✭dodzy


    smurf492 wrote: »
    So businesses and factories get to decide if they are essential!!!... Absolute cop out

    Yep, looks like a self-declaration type setup


  • Posts: 2,050 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    God but people are just arseholes. Bunch of selfish pricks beside where I live fishing, 2 cars just gone down in the last few minutes, multiple people in the car and now having a chat in the car park. It's amazing how many people think rules don't apply to them

    Is fishing banned??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 787 ✭✭✭Cartel Mike


    I originally asked this question and asked if it was down to simply having more beds available. They have a lot of beds but there has to be more to it than that. People harp on about Mekerl , Hitler etc etc. The Germans are efficient smart and conscientious people.

    Whatever they're doing right , we could do worse that immitating them step for step!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,152 ✭✭✭dougm1970


    294 new cases
    14 more deaths

    here ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,293 ✭✭✭billybonkers


    294 new cases
    14 more deaths

    HSE update just now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,917 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,607 ✭✭✭bennyl10


    dougm1970 wrote: »
    here ?

    Yes
    13% increase

    Deaths is again a worry


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,917 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    That's a lot of deaths, surely related to the nursing homes. RIP to all.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,805 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    14 new deaths and 294 new cases in the Republic today.

    While I feel greatly for the bereaved families, these are very positive figures in the overall War on the virus, I really think we can kept the genie in the bottle to a large extent.

    Keep going everyone, we will return to our normal lives all the sooner with this immense community effort.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,575 ✭✭✭WhiteMemento9


    Talisman wrote: »
    Here's a recording of a Zoom call from a doctor in New York to his family and friends explaining how to protect themselves. Contains some good advice.

    https://vimeo.com/399733860?ref=em-share

    The idea of wearing masks to break the link between the face and the hands is really good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    FVP3 wrote: »

    All Europeans who suppose the Orange man are clearly deranged. Europe needs to leave NATO ( who also done nothing although MASH hospitals, medics, and sterilising equipment exist in the US barracks) and ally with our new friends in China.

    The Chinese Communist Party are not our friends. They're red ethno-nationalists who who just before the new year were mounting a propoganda campaign in the west that their network of concentration camps were trade schools.

    If you're impressed by a few consignments of masks and gowns (that we'll be paying for remember) after the sh*tstorm they brought on the world, you're easily bought and impressed indeed.

    It's really fascinating how some people are so succeptible to propaganda.

    And also, FYI, Confucianism isn't a system of government, it's a set of cultural rites and frameworks for society and above all, ethical teachings. It was actually out of favour since the revolution, and has been recently superficially recussitated for nationailist purposes. Mainland China is probably the least Confucian (if that word even makes sense in the 21st century) of the Sino influenced East Asian states.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 177 ✭✭Carbon125


    wakka12 wrote: »
    It is the only logical explanation why Germany is experiencing such a small number of total deaths compared to other European countries. Most countries bordering Germany arre the hardest hit in Europe, there is no reason why the effects would be so much less across Germany

    Fair enough if it was simply a much smaller proprtional death rate there, that could be exmplained easily by the amount of testing they are doing. But no, it is the total number of deaths, which is just so much smaller than the rest of Europe, it is unexplainable. Germany has the 2nd oldest population in europe and the third oldest in the world


    You are wrong. Example of the description of the first two coronavirus victims in Germany (excerpts, Google Translate):


    "A 78-year-old from Gangelt in the Heinsberg district of North Rhine-Westphalia is one of the first two dead from the corona virus in Germany. This was announced by district administrator Stephan Pusch. The man had reported symptoms at the Geilenkirchen hospital on Friday and had died of heart failure at 2 p.m. on Monday."


    "The second death in Germany is an 89-year-old woman from Essen. According to a spokeswoman for the city, she had died of pneumonia as a result of the infection at 12:44 p.m."



    https://www.spiegel.de/panorama/gesellschaft/coronavirus-in-heinsberg-verstorbener-78-jaehriger-besuchte-karnevalssitzung-a-2d3f6750-413f-41a5-8ea9-1ce796baae33


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Ireland now has the 16th highest number of COVID deaths per capita in the world. If you exclude microstates with populations under 50k then it is 13th in the world


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 624 ✭✭✭Humberto Salazar


    smurf492 wrote: »
    So businesses and factories get to decide if they are essential!!!... Absolute cop out

    It is. Lots of political arm twisting involved I'm sure from the big ones. Shocking decision.


  • Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    wakka12 wrote: »
    It is the only logical explanation why Germany is experiencing such a small number of total deaths compared to other European countries. Most countries bordering Germany arre the hardest hit in Europe, there is no reason why the effects would be so much less across Germany

    The is another, more logical explanation..initially Germany was excellent at conducting testing and contact tracing, meaning they were catching mild cases and early cases before people got seriously ill. As they have gone on the death rate has risen day on day as people who were detected early have gotten worse and died. Resources will now be focused more on treatment that testing so would imagine death rate will continue to climb. Looking at the data I would say true death rate will be about 1% in places were health system holds up, and maybe 2-4% where it breaks down. Italy currently at close to 10%, but that tells me they have a huge number of undetected infections, probably closer to 300,000

    I only base my estimates on a bit of guess work looking at the data. We will only know the true figure after this is done we know what proportion got the virus and the final death toll


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 151 ✭✭PaybackPayroll


    Is fishing banned??

    Yes, I believe so.
    Unless you're catching a Jaws style fish and you're getting considerable exercise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,674 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    It is. Lots of political arm twisting involved I'm sure from the big ones. Shocking decision.

    What extra businesses etc are actually closing as of today. It seems like hardly any.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,917 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Ireland now has the 13th highest number of COVID deaths per capita in the world
    I think that is related to the fact that, unfortunately, we've had quite a large hospital/nursing home outbreak.


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