CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03

Professor Moriarty · 28-03-2020 05:29PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Without wishing to sound condescending or mean minded, I think many of the over 70s who are active and healthy will NOT cocoon at all.

I'm no spring chicken but well under 70 and have stayed in the house the last while with a bit of gardening and a walk early in the morning only.

However, a relative aged 71 with HBP and rheumatoid arthritis took it upon himself to get the bus into town on Thursday, found a barber shop open and had a haircut.

Sorry now, but jayzis I lost the plot with him, but he still doesn't get it. Went off around his town this morning, dropped into the shop for the paper and a lotto ticket etc. etc.

What do we do with that kind of an attitude. Nothing is sinking in at all.

That barber shop shouldn't have been open.

FVP3 · 28-03-2020 05:30PM

Duke of Url wrote: »

https://www.flightradar24.com/EIN9018/244976fb

This is the flight from Dublin to China to pickup PPE and other Equipment.

Great bunch of lads.

A Dub in Glasgo · 28-03-2020 05:31PM

loughside wrote: »

So did the Irish gov get test samples before they put in an order?
Hopefully better quality than the Test kits that went to spain and czech.

Never a good idea to buy on Alibaba.com

I think you would be better off finding out what cargo is coming back on this aircraft (and the others over the course of the next while)

PaybackPayroll · 28-03-2020 05:31PM

moonage wrote: »

The science behind face mask usage in a pandemic would seem to contradict the WHO position:

They were using face masks during the 1918 pandemic. They weren't 100% sure it was a virus, but they also knew not to mix the sick with the healthy.

There are pictures of all the people wearing masks from back then

shesty · 28-03-2020 05:32PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

How's China doing now? Didn't they lift their restrictions and had new cases of the virus?

We need their help in tackling this and put in the same measures they used.

Their new cases are all imported by travellers.Last I saw yesterday, they had no new cases of community transmission.They were announcing plans to close their borders yesterday I believe, not sure from what date

FVP3 · 28-03-2020 05:32PM

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

Time for us to fence off and isolate Dublin ?

Reinstate the Pale ?

Most of our cases are there !

well the 2KM law, if enforced, is already doing that.

Spanish Eyes · 28-03-2020 05:32PM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

That barber shop shouldn't have been open.

That was Thursday last, I was just thinking that myself now that you mention it. But there we are. Always one or two under the radar I suppose. That was somewhere in Capel Street I was told. Furriners too lol. I got the whole shebang of the story. I think relative was delighted with himself to have beaten the system.

sheepsh4gger · 28-03-2020 05:33PM

Duke of Url wrote: »

https://www.flightradar24.com/EIN9018/244976fb

This is the flight from Dublin to China to pickup PPE and other Equipment.

This is what’s waiting

Can't wait for the masks

bb12 · 28-03-2020 05:35PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Without wishing to sound condescending or mean minded, I think many of the over 70s who are active and healthy will NOT cocoon at all.

I'm no spring chicken but well under 70 and have stayed in the house the last while with a bit of gardening and a walk early in the morning only.

However, a relative aged 71 with HBP and rheumatoid arthritis took it upon himself to get the bus into town on Thursday, found a barber shop open and had a haircut.

Sorry now, but jayzis I lost the plot with him, but he still doesn't get it. Went off around his town this morning, dropped into the shop for the paper and a lotto ticket etc. etc.

What do we do with that kind of an attitude. Nothing is sinking in at all.

spose he'll only have his epiphany when he's gasping for his last breath alone in hospital

FVP3 · 28-03-2020 05:35PM

loughside wrote: »

Never a good idea to buy on Alibaba.com

Yeh, nobody did that. When's your next anti-Chinese screed?

I see the Chinese helping out, meanwhile the Orange buffoon is trying to steal Europe's tech.

kalkat2002 · 28-03-2020 05:35PM

More than a lockdown it looks more like a bank holiday...not serious at all

Blueshoe · 28-03-2020 05:35PM

Some sources saying a more detailed essential businesses and workers list is to be released.
No mention of it on other sources

John_Rambo · 28-03-2020 05:36PM

Evangeline Damaged Specimen wrote: »

The only people who disagree with the lockdown are idiots who wouldn’t listen to what they were told and continued as normal. They caused the full lockdown we have now.

Everybody I know has been calling for this full lockdown for a week or two. Leo has done the right thing and only a fool would disagree.

Lol, you're a gas man Nox, two weeks ago you were sneering and laughing at people condemning the idiots that went to Cheltenham, some of whom bought the virus back with them!!!

New Home · 28-03-2020 05:36PM

Elle Tasty Gymnasium wrote: »

We are not prolonging the inevitable. The more that we clog up the health services, and deplete our resources, the less effective they are. We have ways and means of expanding the current critical care beds numbers to accommodate in a controlled fashion. However, this number is not infinite. If we just let everybody catch the virus, then the number of needy will far outweigh the number. And we will end up with far more outraged people on boards, not understanding why their loved ones are dying, due to lack of resources. Furthermore, there will be indirect morbidity and mortality from people who die because they do not have their heart-attack treated within 90 minutes (as per current practice) or a stroke treated within 4.5 hours (as per current practice) because of an overwhelmed service

I think that we have to look at all our loved-ones. Are we willing to gamble with their lives, to save an economy that is already doomed? Ireland is a compassionate society. And we are resilient. We got through so much hardship. One rocky economic patch will not define our history. Turning our backs on the sick and needy will!

Let's compare this to a crowded indoors event, maybe people will get it, then. The fire alarm goes off. If everyone calmly gets up and leave in an orderly manner, the emergency doors will be wide enough for everyone to go through safely and quickly, and lots of lives will be saved. If there's a stampede, people will fall and get trampled over, people will be crushed, people will get stuck in the doorways trying to get out and many, many people will die.

khalessi wrote: »

Do you understand what we are about to face. In NY one person is dying is dying every 17 minutes and hospitals are overwhelmed. It is described as hell only worse. https://nypost.com/2020/03/27/another-84-people-killed-by-coronavirus-in-new-york-city/

The point of the lockdown is to SLOW the SPREAD so we flatten a curve to help our hospitals. The hospitals will become overwhelmed we know that but we can lessen it by staying home for the most part.

We are about to be hit by a health tsunami of unprecedented proportions and we can help by changing our hobbies for a little while. Similar to how people used to use blackout curtains during bombing raids in war.

I know this does not suit your thinking but have a look around at your family and tell me which one you want to die. If the answer is none well then just sit down for a little while watch a movies exercise go for a short walk but help slow down the spread and flatten the curve.

I am asking you not to be so blind, as a nurse, as someone immuncompromised and as a relative of people with serious health issues. I want to be able to look at their faces when this is over. I want to be able to hug them again

Thank you. I do hope people will listen to this and take it in.

Strazdas · 28-03-2020 05:36PM

sheepsh4gger wrote: »

Can't wait for the masks

Apparently this flight arrives in tomorrow and the Army is on standby to deliver the PPE to hospitals.

And this is only the very first batch : there will be many more flights to China in the next two weeks

freshpopcorn · 28-03-2020 05:36PM

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wakka12 · 28-03-2020 05:36PM

Governor of New York announces that peak still not expected for another 14 -21 days.

Chile and Ecudaor report 300 and 200 new cases respectively and will soon be the second and third south american nations to reach 2000 cases

Boggles · 28-03-2020 05:37PM

NHS England medical director Prof Stephen Powis says if the death toll in the UK is kept below 20,000, "we will have done very well". It was "possible to get on top of this virus",

Essentially best case scenario.

Strazdas · 28-03-2020 05:38PM

wakka12 wrote: »

Governor of New York announces that peak still not expected for another 14 -21 days.

Chile and Ecudaor report 300 and 200 new cases respectively and will soon be the second and third south american nations to reach 1000 cases

Interestingly, the NY peak is considered to be a week or two behind the north western European one and the Californian one another week behind again.

little bess · 28-03-2020 05:39PM

Elle Tasty Gymnasium wrote: »

People think that masks are infallible. There is a very specific way to put them on, and to take them off. For example, one should break the ties from behind to remove it, and to never touch the front part. Masks should not encourage people to take reckless risks, that they would not take without

Yeah, but it’s not rocket science

Shoelaces · 28-03-2020 05:40PM

Got an email from work saying that the €350 payment is not applicable to those in reciept of the €203 temp lay off payment. Instead a precentage of you average earnings. Havent seen anything about this online though? Any idea?

gifted · 28-03-2020 05:40PM

Peruvian Flake wrote: »

What colour jocks was he wearing ?

Aren't you a right funny person?....bet the one liners just roll off your tongue and you go to bed at night thinking that everyone says your sound and they are delighted to be your friend....when is your next stand up gig?....oh yeah, nearly forgot ...your just the person who thinks they're funny.

BorneTobyWilde · 28-03-2020 05:40PM

Trump going to isolate New York, lock it down, no one out. See we should be doing that with Dublin, our epicentre

ACitizenErased · 28-03-2020 05:42PM

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1243941357154119682?s=20

Sono Topolino · 28-03-2020 05:43PM

jprender wrote: »

Grand.

So in your neighbourhood, due to the volume of people and width of the paths, you think it’s a good idea to stay home

That doesn’t mean it should apply to the whole friggin country.

I’m happy to have different rules depending on population density and width of the footpath. Unfortunately this isn’t how Ireland works.

Spanish Eyes · 28-03-2020 05:43PM

Trump is on talking shyte via LBC radio, I missed a bit but sounds like restriction of travel or something like quarantine of NY. Also restrictions re Florida.... where Mar a Largo is and Louisiana.

He is an idiot, I am sorry now, but he is.

Strazdas · 28-03-2020 05:44PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Trump going to isolate New York, lock it down, no one out. See we should be doing that with Dublin, our epicentre

Have you seen Dublin city centre this afternoon? We are *in* full lockdown

https://twitter.com/NewstalkFM/status/1243933866907373568

Spanish Eyes · 28-03-2020 05:45PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Trump going to isolate New York, lock it down, no one out. See we should be doing that with Dublin, our epicentre

If you cannot go further than 2km from home except for shopping everywhere is isolated now really.

caveat emptor · 28-03-2020 05:46PM

moonage wrote: »

The science behind face mask usage in a pandemic would seem to contradict the WHO position:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JH04M04eQQ

Thanks for finding and sharing. I guess it's a greater good thing going. Of course health workers should be protected first. Saying masks don't work because people are stupid isn't a good argument.

New Home · 28-03-2020 05:46PM

joe40 wrote: »

You're right anyone with access to half a brain probably will think like that.
Thankfully the medics leading this have access to full brains plus years of experience.

CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

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CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03