CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03

Christy42 · 28-03-2020 03:40PM

sydthebeat wrote: »

poor San Marino will come out of this with the worst deaths per capita ratio.

already at 619 per million (21 deaths)

Italy a distant second at 151 deaths per million
followed by Spain at 122

It hits regions. So in a large country will be unlikely spread across every little section badly. If it hits a small country it only has so far to go to get a large proportion.

Right next to Italy they were in a terrible position to stop this

CaoinDory · 28-03-2020 03:40PM

Tomrota wrote: »

Apologies if it’s been answered 400,000 times but I haven’t been keeping up with this thread or the news, but is it restricted to go for your daily exercise with the family unit? And is it restricted to shop with another member of the family unit? Thanks guys.

Then go look at the news!!! Its been everywhere!!! No you cannot shop with family members. 1 person in the shop. 1 adult with kids is supposed to exercise. Seriously. You have access to the internet. Come on!

28-03-2020 03:40PM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Not being funny but give serious thought that'its time to quit, vaping is very hard on the lungs and if you catch this ****er of a virus that's where it'll be targeting you,

Since when is vaping very hard on the lungs?

is_that_so · 28-03-2020 03:40PM

Tomrota wrote: »

Apologies if it’s been answered 400,000 times but I haven’t been keeping up with this thread or the news, but is it restricted to go for your daily exercise with the family unit? And is it restricted to shop with another member of the family unit? Thanks guys.

Shopping is OK, restriction is on exercise.

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0328/1127002-coronavirus-2km-limit/

Downlinz · 28-03-2020 03:41PM

Tomrota wrote: »

Apologies if it’s been answered 400,000 times but I haven’t been keeping up with this thread or the news, but is it restricted to go for your daily exercise with the family unit? And is it restricted to shop with another member of the family unit? Thanks guys.

The guidelines say you should be 2m apart from others in public even those from the same household and even kids. A parent can accompany kids but also has to be 2 metres apart, the details are mixed whether both parents or two adults can out together.
Though if everyone is 2 metres apart from one another it seems like semantics whether they're "with" one another.

NetChat101 · 28-03-2020 03:43PM

Risteard81 wrote: »

No-one's undermining the seriousness of it. You're ignoring the seriousness of Leo's diktats however and their anti-life effects.

Being dead as a result of Covid 19 is fairly
anti-life!

khalessi · 28-03-2020 03:43PM

CaoinDory wrote: »

Thank you again for all your work hun.

It was said last night that we are only beginning this!! But people are refusing to listen. Maybe this will wipe out the idiots and leave us free of their drivel.

Thank you on behalf of my colleagues who are still working but due to various reasons health related etc I had to step down. Though still registered, as I would like to be able to go back when healthier, I am sadly only with them spiritually and am saddened when I read idiotic remarks as I understand what they are about to face and it is downright frightening. I still have family working in the HSE as have others here and what they are about to go through scares me.

This is something our modern health service has never experienced before and seeing the reaction of medics globally is terrifying. It is akin to the feelings DFB had watching their american colleagues some of who they knew well going into help during 9/11. THey knew by looking at the tv that many would not come back and those going in knew it too, similar to our medical nursing and admin staff knowing they could catch this and die.

THey are trying to prepare and we can help by doing as we are asked for a short while whether months or weeks

This will be our medics 9/11 and I am worried for them, my friends and colleagues. Though i cant be by their sides i will help by doing what I am asked

DFB Dublin Fire Brigade

Tandey · 28-03-2020 03:44PM

Tomrota wrote: »

Apologies if it’s been answered 400,000 times but I haven’t been keeping up with this thread or the news, but is it restricted to go for your daily exercise with the family unit? And is it restricted to shop with another member of the family unit? Thanks guys.

From gov.ie

-Everyone needs to stay at home to help slow the spread of COVID-19 (Coronavirus).

You should only leave your home to:

shop for essential food and household goods
attend medical appointments, collect medicine or other health products

care for children, older people or other vulnerable people - this excludes social family visits

exercise briefly by yourself, or with children from your family, and only within 2 kilometers of your home, keeping 2 metres distance from other people

travel to work if you provide an essential service - be sure to practice physical distancing

Hope this helps.

speckle · 28-03-2020 03:45PM

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

What's the theory behind it? Why are they more at risk?

If there's a medical / scientific reason then fair enough

maybe because they are even bigger than settled people on extended family living. and some have been forced into living in very small sites on top of each other and may have a lower age expectancy with higher levels of some conditions. maybe the have problems with sourcing water for indivual familys to washing facilities.
Wash your hands everyone.
my thoughts with those from this background who are working on the frontlones as doctors and nurses.

Red for Danger · 28-03-2020 03:46PM

Christ! the uk is moving at pace today 260 deaths on the board already!, that seems much faster than France were last week, france Netherlands Belgium seem to be moving at similar pace

SpitfireIV · 28-03-2020 03:48PM

Downlinz wrote: »

The guidelines say you should be 2m apart from others in public even those from the same household and even kids. A parent can accompany kids but also has to be 2 metres apart, the details are mixed whether both parents or two adults can out together.
Though if everyone is 2 metres apart from one another it seems like semantics whether they're "with" one another.

My apartment overlooks a nice park and riverside walk on one side, town square on the other. While its a little quieter today there are still plenty of people (couples, families, individuals) out walking/running. From what I'm observing there's very little to no social distancing going on, they probably just don't care or can't be bothered, 'it won't affect me!' mentality.

Tandey · 28-03-2020 03:48PM

Red for Danger wrote: »

Christ! the uk is moving at pace today 260 deaths on the board already!, that seems much faster than France were last week, france Netherlands Belgium seem to be moving at similar pace

Ugh you make it sound like your commenting on a race or something. Seriously.

is_that_so · 28-03-2020 03:50PM

Things seem to be slowing in Spain thankfully. Both numbers down and rate of change under 10%.

Ger Roe · 28-03-2020 03:50PM

NCT to resume operations tomorrow - deemed to be an essential service.
Source - Announcement on NCT website.

MrMusician18 · 28-03-2020 03:50PM

Tandey wrote: »

Ugh you make it sound like your commenting on a race or something. Seriously.

There are some extremely ghoulish posters on boards.

Wibbs · 28-03-2020 03:51PM

Ger Roe wrote: »

NCT to resume operations tomorrow - deemed to be an essential service.
Source - Announcement on NCT website.

They need boycotting for that idiotic and dangerous stance.

Roger_007 · 28-03-2020 03:52PM

Downlinz wrote: »

The guidelines say you should be 2m apart from others in public even those from the same household and even kids. A parent can accompany kids but also has to be 2 metres apart, the details are mixed whether both parents or two adults can out together.
Though if everyone is 2 metres apart from one another it seems like semantics whether they're "with" one another.

That’s completely daft. If people from the same household remain 2 meters apart when they are out and then go home and carry on as normal, what would that achieve? Does anyone really think that you can spend 23 hours a day keeping 2 meters away from everyone else in the same house. We all don’t live in 6 bed mansions.

Rob A. Bank · 28-03-2020 03:52PM

Aer Lingus flight to Beijing to collect supplies is now approaching the Ural Mountains and about to enter Asia.

https://www.flightradar24.com/EIN9018/244976fb

Zenify · 28-03-2020 03:52PM

Red for Danger wrote: »

Christ! the uk is moving at pace today 260 deaths on the board already!, that seems much faster than France were last week, france Netherlands Belgium seem to be moving at similar pace

It's not looking good for them at all. Some previous posters said we should ask for help from them with ICU beds. I think they are going to be far worse than us with the way they have dealt with it so far. Going by worldometers they have over 3 times as many deaths per population as us.

Downlinz · 28-03-2020 03:53PM

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1243902520046608384

Things getting serious over there

Ficheall · 28-03-2020 03:53PM

is_that_so wrote: »

Things seem to be slowing in Spain thankfully. Both numbers down and rate of change under 10%.

One day with a marginally lower value doesn't mean things are slowing down..

Hedgehod55 · 28-03-2020 03:53PM

facehugger99 wrote: »

High on the thanks-whoring but light on any actual facts.

Colour me surprised.

As opposed to your "fact-laden" drivel? Your posts are made up of your uneducated opinion. You're not an expert on the topic. You should defer to the experts on the matter but your massive ego won't allow that, you think you know best. It's embarrassing to watch.

Sean 18 · 28-03-2020 03:54PM

Roger_007 wrote: »

That’s completely daft. If people from the same household remain 2 meters apart when they are out and then go home and carry on as normal, what would that achieve? Does anyone really think that you can spend 23 hours a day keeping 2 meters away from everyone else in the same house. We all don’t live in 6 bed mansions.

It's ridiculous just cause leo is used of living in a mansion

Xertz · 28-03-2020 03:55PM

facehugger99 wrote: »

The lockdown isn't going to work, anyone with access to half a brain and a calculator can see this.

According to Varadkar we're already nearly at ICU capacity after a couple of thousand confirmed cases and a few weeks in.

Even if we assume that there's actually 10 times the number of confirmed cases in the country, then we've around 20,000 infected out of 4.8 million and we're at capacity.

So, if we want to spread this out so ICU's don't get overwhelmed and need 2 weeks for every 20,000 that are infected, that works out at maintaining a lockdown for 480 weeks.

Even if we ramp up the ICU spaces by 4 times, that's 120 weeks we need to lock down.

The economy will be fcuked after 4 months of this - and there won't be money to borrow.

We're doing nothing now other than prolonging the inevitable while fcuking the economy at the same time.

Well, you're going into unknowable unknowns there. If we let this run wild through the population, without any attempt to manage it at all, you could also be looking at a huge number of deaths and the complete collapse of the country anyway.

The global economy is all in the same boat at the moment. The solutions to this will have to be global, coordinated stimulus. At least at an EU level we have the scale to do that, assuming that the fiscally conservative ideologues can actually think beyond their narrow minded view of financial accounting.

If you look at the only countries that have apparently achieved some progress on this, they have implemented very serious shut downs to prevent transmission.

This thing moves through a population with exponential growth. If you stop the spread, it also stops that run away growth rate and the cases should burn out rather quickly.

Think of it this way:

The virus needs hosts. It's not some bacteria that lurks in the undergrowth. If you starve it of hosts by placing them too far away from each other to get at, then the virus dies.

It's as simple as that. It's a like a fire break in a forest.

The alternative is you completely overwhelm the health system and potentially wipe out a significant % of the country and leave others with potentially long term lung damage. It's not really an acceptable alternative to trying to stop it.

They're aren't really good alternatives to pick from. This isn't some kind of abstract argument like Brexit or something like that. It's a choice between trying to contain something through fire breaks (at very significant cost and disruption) or burning down the whole forest in a wildfire.

One's an unpleasant option, the other has the potential to do untold damage.

Gynoid · 28-03-2020 03:56PM

Wibbs wrote: »

They need boycotting for that idiotic and dangerous stance.

Yeah, feck, we have nct next week, think we will just postpone and get fine or whatever happens when you don't turn up, as it can only be an absolute hub for infections.

Beasty · 28-03-2020 03:56PM

Risteard81 wrote: »

I blame the education system for producing people who can't understand that a lockdown is pointless and futile. When it ends cases will surge. You can't continuously lock people down for a couple of years hoping to develop a vaccine. Suicides will rocket.

A 19 year old killed herself in England the other day because of the thought of indefinite lockdowns and restrictions. By supporting these actions you are promoting genocide.

Leo's totalitarian tendencies are dangerous and he is an enemy of the country.

Risteard81 wrote: »

No-one's undermining the seriousness of it. You're ignoring the seriousness of Leo's diktats however and their anti-life effects.

Risteard81 wrote: »

No he didn't you pillock.

Threadbanned

cnocbui · 28-03-2020 03:57PM

Raconteuse wrote: »

New data has been added to Worldometer. Including the date of each country's first case confirmation.

When Italy and Spain were at the point in time that we are at now (about four weeks since the first confirmed case) they had a fraction of the deaths in this country.

A few of you need to wake up, face reality and stop denying/trivialising this.

Apart from El Duderino being way too harsh over people just going for a walk by themselves, people are not on their high horses - they are simply seeing the reality.

Thank you for pointing out what I should be doing and making assumptions about how and what i think. I invite you to read the first thread on this topic. You might find it enlightening as to what I actually think.

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Originally Posted by Snow Garden View Post
To give people some perspective.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm#ILIActivityMap

CDC estimates that so far in the 2019-2020 flu season there have been at least 26 million flu illnesses, 250,000 hospitalizations and 14,000 deaths from flu.

How come ye dont hype up a thread on that?

To give you some perspective, 50% of Europe's population died due to the Black Death. That would be 370 million people in today's numbers. Keeping a close eye on a developing situation involving a new pandemic pathogen isn't panicking or foolish. There is far more panicking and foolishness going on regarding 'climate change' and no one has even died.

Ironic to go from being brow beaten about panicking over nothing to being lambasted for not being serious about the issue and understating it's importance.

Kermit.de.frog · 28-03-2020 03:58PM

is_that_so wrote: »

Things seem to be slowing in Spain thankfully. Both numbers down and rate of change under 10%.

Spain's official full figures are not released until 11 am Irish time the following day.

What you see on worldometers is confirmed cases so far from some regions in the day.

People keep making this error and then are shocked when the official full figures are released.

hot buttered scones · 28-03-2020 03:58PM

Yester wrote: »

Are vape shops closed? I know it's trivial in the scheme of things but I switched from smoking to vaping a couple of days ago and didn't stock up.

Dunno, but there are plenty of Irish online retailers who will deliver. Also a lot of Supervalus sell the liquid.

Yester · 28-03-2020 04:00PM

hot buttered scones wrote: »

Dunno, but there are plenty of Irish online retailers who will deliver. Also a lot of Supervalus sell the liquid.

Nice one. I'll try supervalu next time I have to shop.

CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

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CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03