CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03

pgj2015 · 28-03-2020 09:10AM

Poor_old_gill wrote: »

I'd be very much be in the 'cant stand the sight or sound of McGregor' brigade but he's doing his bit and he has given a million quid to help the effort.

Fairplay to him, when this is all over- I will definitely remember the people & businesses that helped and he very much falls into that category.

We have a country of a shedload of millionaires and some billionaires - these people need to put their money where their mouth is, like McGregor

no they dont, why should they? they pay tax like everyone else, way more than most people, it is up to our government to get us through this not millionaires.

Poor_old_gill · 28-03-2020 09:12AM

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Nobody gives a damn what that junkie scumbag thinks. Restrictions would have been planned well before that knackbag took to social media.

I'm not sure do you live in Dublin or not but the main demographic of people who have not been adhering to the social distancing requests have been groups of teenage boys and you just see gangs of them hanging around when you are out walking/driving.

The decision to get one of their idols to speak to them directly is a very intelligent one to be fair. He might be a fairly distasteful character but he has a massive following and we need everyone to comply for it to work

28-03-2020 09:12AM

Jin luk wrote: »

Someone only told him a covid 19 patient needs a ventilator for 21days rather than the usual 4-5days for flu. Sh*ts getting real over their am glad were in a lockdown now next thing we need to do is shut airports and ports

How are essential supplies going to get in?

Poor_old_gill · 28-03-2020 09:14AM

pgj2015 wrote: »

no they dont, why should they? they pay tax like everyone else, way more than most people, it is up to our government to get us through this not millionaires.

A lot of them dont pay their fair share of tax for one.

Secondly a the health systems needs volunteers and money right now - a lot of tax payers who have free time are offering it up as thats all they can give but if you have the means to help out financially then you should.

The gov dont have the money and we are facing into a massive recession in the short term so if people have the money to help out in this once in a lifetime national crisis then its time to pony up

facehugger99 · 28-03-2020 09:15AM

Poor_old_gill wrote: »

I'd be very much be in the 'cant stand the sight or sound of McGregor' brigade but he's doing his bit and he has given a million quid to help the effort.

It's always great when people contribute to charity and then tell everyone about it and how much they gave - so classy.

Silent Running · 28-03-2020 09:16AM

Just watched trump, surrounded by a tight group of yes men, signing an order. He turned round and handed the pen to the drone behind him, and he took it saying "thank you Mr. President". Then Trump reached into a box full of pens and started handing them out to the whole group.

No social distancing and handing pens from one hand to another's hand. A great example to the world.

cannotlogin · 28-03-2020 09:16AM

Need a Username wrote: »

This one of the things I’m asking about.

I need to go out tomorrow on an errand. Collect one small package from my sister’s house. I have to walk and will not be interacting with anyone.

Is it now a crime to walk from one place to another?

I’m the carer for my grandmother and I don’t want a Garda who has been interacting with other people coming up to me and potentially infecting me.

With the greatest of respect, the essential item you refer to is a remote for your TV. That is not an essential item despite what you may think.

As someone who is a carer, you should be so focused on making sure that you bring zero infection into your house . The irony of you saying you don't want a Garda potențally infecting you. You can control that by staying at home.

JustAThought · 28-03-2020 09:17AM

IrishStuff09 wrote: »

Putting together a page with some online services that have been made free during this whole thing. Might interest some here

https://covid19.shanehastings.eu/giveback/

This is a fantastic resource - thank you very much. Just signed up for the free fender guitar tutorials.

Poor_old_gill · 28-03-2020 09:17AM

facehugger99 wrote: »

It's always great when people contribute to charity and then tell everyone about it and how much they gave - so classy.

Some people are never f*ckin happy.

He's giving a hand - its a lot more than others are doing

pgj2015 · 28-03-2020 09:18AM

Poor_old_gill wrote: »

A lot of them dont pay their fair share of tax for one.

Secondly a the health systems needs volunteers and money right now - a lot of tax payers who have free time are offering it up as thats all they can give but if you have the means to help out financially then you should.

it is easy for people who arent millionaires to say the millionaires should give their money to the country at this time. if they want to that is ok but it shouldnt be expected of them.

obi604 · 28-03-2020 09:19AM

Anyone know about these 2:

General factories? (Presume will close if not making medical devices)

Building sites?

timmy_mallet · 28-03-2020 09:19AM

Can we just take a moment for society, and remembering that the selfish one life is worth more brigade will destroy the world. Thanks.

MarkY91 · 28-03-2020 09:19AM

facehugger99 wrote: »

It's always great when people contribute to charity and then tell everyone about it and how much they gave - so classy.

And what did you do to help?

Wibbs · 28-03-2020 09:21AM

Logan Roy wrote: »

:pac: I've a BMI of 26.5. I'm 5ft 11 and 86kg and lean. This is a pretty typical height and weight for anyone into sport. You don't need to be Mr Universe to have a BMI over 25.

Lean but not great at reading on; if your BMI is over 25, you're far more likely to be fat than muscled. If it's over thirty and it's muscle, you've just won Mr Universe without trying.

careless sherpa · 28-03-2020 09:22AM

timmy_mallet wrote: »

Can we just take a moment for society, and remembering that the selfish one life is worth more brigade will destroy the world. Thanks.

Is that like a riddle

28-03-2020 09:22AM

Kivaro wrote: »

Watching news reports this morning on various channels from all around the world, why is it that I'm seeing spraying being done on a massive scale in other countries, but haven't seen anything similarly being done here in Ireland. How come?

Apologies if this question was already asked in this fast-moving thread.

I imagine the fact that we struggle to regularly grit and maintain the main roads here during a bad winter doesn't bode well for mass-disinfecting of towns and cities.

We're tiny compared to some of these countries and their populations, absolutely minuscule compared to China. We're just not equipped for a full military-imposed lockdown, for disinfecting towns and cities, or some of these heavier measures we see other countries employing to tackle the pandemic.

Don't get me wrong, I'm extremely grateful for what our services can do and are doing in this crisis, and I understand why Ireland can't just have all this equipment and personnel on standby. The likes of China are ready to go out and start disinfecting cities not just in case of pandemics, but because they are a world superpower who could be hit with a chemical or biological attack. Their military and the bodies available for government work dwarf our population total. Similar for South Korea who could be blitzed from the North at a moment's notice. A lot of these countries have a large military, which is a help in times like these. As we've seen in the news, our limited numbers in the Army have already been deployed to help with the crisis.

In Ireland we seem to make the best with what we have in a crisis, and also adapt during it. As far as this crisis goes, I think our government and decision makers are doing just about all they can with the limited human resources and infrastructure at their disposal. If it comes to us having to disinfect towns and cities, well god help us, but I'm sure we'll find a way. We're just not ready for that yet I'd say.

Edit: I imagine our Fire Service and/or their vehicles will come largely into play if we have to start mass disinfecting urban areas.

Jin luk · 28-03-2020 09:23AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

How are essential supplies going to get in?

I meant closed as in passengers not supplies

careless sherpa · 28-03-2020 09:23AM

walshb wrote: »

This million euro is a nonsense..

The government have heaps of money for this.

Million euro us like spit in the ocean...

Anyone really think the govt are looking for an MMA fighter and his million euro?

Sucker punching men in bars is what Conor will be remembered for, not a million euro donation for face masks..

Is probably a catch anyway. Like the houses he was building for the homeless and then sold them for 500k each to a housing body

Gooey Looey · 28-03-2020 09:23AM

walshb wrote: »

This million euro is a nonsense..

The government have heaps of money for this.

Million euro us like spit in the ocean...

Anyone really think the govt are looking for an MMA fighter and his million euro?

Sucker punching men in bars is what Conor will be remembered for, not a million euro donation for face masks..

Respect it as a generous donation. How many million did Bono donate?

pgj2015 · 28-03-2020 09:25AM

Gooey Looey wrote: »

Respect it as a generous donation. How many million did Bono donate?

come on, mcgreor doesnt care about Irish people, all he cares about is money, you would be an idiot to think otherwise. that speech was so cringy.

Poor_old_gill · 28-03-2020 09:25AM

pgj2015 wrote: »

it is easy for people who arent millionaires to say the millionaires should give their money to the country at this time. if they want to that is ok but it shouldnt be expected of them.

I'm not saying its expected of them but if you have substantial means and your country is struggling to deal with a global pandemic due to a lack of money & resources then I would, at the end of it all, like to look back & say I helped to save some lives by helping in whatever way I could.

We dont have enough beds/equipment/facilities/PPE for staff - we need money to procure these and we dont have it.

This situation will only be exacerbated by the tax take falling massively due to a rise in unemployment (coupled with the increase in social welfare expenditure) - so essentially we are f*cked for cash and people will die because of this.

So if I had, lets say, 300 mill then I think giving 5 mill to save a few lives would still leave me in fairly ok financial position.

Palmach · 28-03-2020 09:26AM

Ficheall wrote: »

The Dutch seem a little lax in their approach to the coronavirus - for example, they're saying it's fine for kids to go and play with each other if they are not symptomatic https://www.rivm.nl/en/novel-coronavirus-covid-19/questions-and-answers#039;s%20Novel%20coronavirus%20in%20China - I'd take anything they say with a large pinch of salt..

Maybe their approach is the right one and we are overreacting.

Wibbs · 28-03-2020 09:27AM

Poor_old_gill wrote: »

Some people are never f*ckin happy.

+1 Actually P, learning that many years ago was a bloody great life lesson to learn and one I've tried to pass on to others. There is quite a large percentage of people who are never fcuking happy. There's always a bloody whinge, no matter what the world around them or their life is like. There may be some clinical psychological term for such people, but my position is to be humanly and temporarily sympathetic, but otherwise they are to be avoided like the very plague and good god never go out with one.

walshb · 28-03-2020 09:27AM

careless sherpa wrote: »

Is probably a catch anyway. Like the houses he was building for the homeless and then sold them for 500k each to a housing body

Guaranteed there is a clawback if he did donate this amount...

Underground · 28-03-2020 09:27AM

Italy withholding the delivery of 1,000 oxygen hoods meant for Ireland citing the importance of domestic need over exports.

Just Saying · 28-03-2020 09:28AM

The object of this is to make people stay at home.The aim is to reduce community transmissions dramatically.If this is the case the vast majority of new cases will be household transmissions reducing the need for contact tracing.

Outside of the most obvious reasons for leaving your home such as necessary work,shopping etc the only real discretionary reason is exercise.This has been curtailed to a radius of 2km from your home.The reasoning behind this is to make it more difficult for people to visit other households and claim they were exercising if questioned.

I am stunned at the number of Me Me Me people on this thread who state the they will ignore this part of the requirement as they cant be spreading the virus if they go for their normal run. They are either unable or unwilling to realise the reasoning behind the 2km rule which is as outlined.

They are exactly the same mentality as those people who failed to adhere to social distancing...they don't want to realise that the rule is there for a reason.

What they dont understand is that this is not yet a total lockdown.Their desire to go for lengthy runs will mean that the Govt. might have to play their final card which will result in virtually no exercise at all being permitted.If this happens we will know who to blame.

YFlyer · 28-03-2020 09:28AM

The Sean Kelly's amongst us can rig up their spinning stands.

at9qu5vp0wcix7 · 28-03-2020 09:30AM

paul71 wrote: »

Jayus there are an awful lot of Forest Gumps in Ireland suddenly.

More like Forest Gimp

statesaver · 28-03-2020 09:30AM

Underground wrote: »

Italy withholding the delivery of 1,000 oxygen hoods meant for Ireland citing the importance of domestic need over exports.

Understandable.

ZX7R · 28-03-2020 09:30AM

Get Real wrote: »

I think so too. Fair enough I see in some countries them wiping hand rails etc or targeting specific surfaces.

But indiscriminate spraying of road surfaces is probably useless and pure optics. Look at the type of countries doing it too:

Brazil, Turkey, Myanmar, Mexico, Colombia, China, Syria, Ukraine, Thailand. Pictures of spraying pavements. Some of these countries have questionable regimes and murky transparency and I wouldn't be surprised if it was just water in some of them!

The mas spraying is based on chemical warfare containment,
Most top scientists believe it has little or no affect, but does work for the general public psyche ,as it shows the state is taking action.
It is also an effective measure to keep people indoors

CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

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CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03