CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03

AVFC.Stephen · 28-03-2020 07:52AM

amadangomor wrote: »

My point was that it is the manager's job to find out/apply for an exemption and let you know.

I was unaware if any exemptions would be in place. Good bit of info if is the case

minikin · 28-03-2020 07:54AM

depcon wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/coronavirus-oxygen-equipment-meant-for-ireland-held-back-by-italy-1.4214229?mode=amp

Feck it, let’s see how they get on without viagra.

Ninthlife · 28-03-2020 07:55AM

The likes of DHL and UPS are they still operating under the new guidelines?

limnam · 28-03-2020 07:55AM

minikin wrote: »

Feck it, let’s see how they get on without viagra.

_this_ is how wars start :pac:

Hooked · 28-03-2020 07:56AM

AVFC.Stephen wrote: »

I was unaware if any exemptions would be in place. Good bit of info if is the case

You’d think the info (companies, exemptions) would be on gov.ie, and not being relayed to you (us) via a thread on boards.ie

It really annoys me that at times like this, we can’t get factual info from a government source - even if that info is as simple as ‘an updated list of X will be published soon’

Ninthlife · 28-03-2020 07:57AM

minikin wrote: »

Feck it, let’s see how they get on without viagra.

So youre saying we stiff them

pc7 · 28-03-2020 07:58AM

Gynoid wrote: »

Yep. By me
Sobering

Sorry can’t keep up, it’s absolutely bloody terrifying

all staff in hospitals should be wearing masks going by this from consultants to cleaners.

niallo27 · 28-03-2020 07:58AM

weisses wrote: »

Was listening to an ICU manager in Holland and he said that every single one in critical care and on the ventilator because of covid was overweight and or obese

What is classified as overweight though. Most of our population is overweight if you go by BMI index.

niallo27 · 28-03-2020 07:59AM

Ninthlife wrote: »

So youre saying we stiff them

Well it will stop them from ****ing us anymore anyway.

Gynoid · 28-03-2020 08:01AM

Tom Mann Centuria wrote: »

Imperfect but I think two metres relies on people using correct cough/sneeze etiquette.

And what do you think about ordinary breathing and aerosolised particles? If you are chatting with someone outside on a frosty morning it is interesting how far the visible breath stream goes, and certainly if you are in a room with someone who has very bad breath and is talking to you, you could be 10 foot away from them but quite soon the smell reaches you. Big whopping sneezes may not be the only problem? I dont know. Even as a medical person who has far more knowledge perhaps you dont know yet with this thing? There are too many gaps in our knowledge. Well, in my opinion anyway. I am not going around freaked out or anything, as I have something of a fatalistic streak. But I dont know for sure on this 2 metres, 3 metres, whatever business. Hmmmmm.

Galway56736 · 28-03-2020 08:01AM

Hooked wrote: »

My apologies - The 2km ‘thing’ is just a coincidental reference - I know it’s not a measurement limiting my travel to work or shops. it just so happens that I’m exactly 2km front door to work, so feel more relaxed about travel, as I’m not far from my family. Cool the jets...

And as for taking to my manager - i shouldn’t have to!

It should be perfectly clear (on gov.ie) if this list is finite, subject to change or more info is coming... instead of a heap of contradictory info.

I’m all for the ‘lockdown’. The communication is poor and people are confused/unsure.

Go to work!!!

You know you have to

Ficheall · 28-03-2020 08:02AM

weisses wrote: »

Was listening to an ICU manager in Holland and he said that every single one in critical care and on the ventilator because of covid was overweight and or obese

The Dutch seem a little lax in their approach to the coronavirus - for example, they're saying it's fine for kids to go and play with each other if they are not symptomatic https://www.rivm.nl/en/novel-coronavirus-covid-19/questions-and-answers#039;s%20Novel%20coronavirus%20in%20China - I'd take anything they say with a large pinch of salt..

screamer · 28-03-2020 08:02AM

depcon wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/coronavirus-oxygen-equipment-meant-for-ireland-held-back-by-italy-1.4214229?mode=amp

These were mention as part of the equipment the government had secured. Are we going to start banning the exportation of ventilators?

I saw the planes this week going over my house US bound and wondered what the hell.... I then realised they were the planes full of medical supplies being exported.
Earlier in the week I read that Bojo had commissioned Dyson to make respirators and thought that odd. But then I thought maybe he’s right, the EU solidarity seems to be gone out the window and it’s one big me fein **** show, and every country for themselves. Still, we in Ireland have a track record for exporting things we need most ourselves.

minikin · 28-03-2020 08:03AM

Ninthlife wrote: »

So youre saying we stiff them

Nah, we just need to send some hard men in to negotiate.

Ninthlife · 28-03-2020 08:04AM

minikin wrote: »

Nah, we just need to send some hard men in to negotiate.

Rise to the occasion

PrairieDawn · 28-03-2020 08:07AM

depcon wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/coronavirus-oxygen-equipment-meant-for-ireland-held-back-by-italy-1.4214229?mode=amp

These were mention as part of the equipment the government had secured. Are we going to start banning the exportation of ventilators?

Oh God can we get Oxygen in Ireland?
Based on that model we should be allowed keep ventilators.

silverharp · 28-03-2020 08:10AM

https://twitter.com/Brasco_Aad/status/1243691299800317954

Wibbs · 28-03-2020 08:10AM

weisses wrote: »

Was listening to an ICU manager in Holland and he said that every single one in critical care and on the ventilator because of covid was overweight and or obese

Being overweight or obese by BMI seems to be a factor in the UK too. I'll try and dig up the data I read, but IIRC in something like thirty ICU patients only one was underweight, three were in the normal BMI category, the rest were obese. Tiny sample size mind you. I've noticed in the US most of the cases I've seen reported of people who died, particularly men "with no underlying disease", were obese. In Asia I haven't seen any breakdown by weight/BMI, but they're far less likely to be fat in the first place. Breathing difficulties like apnea are more common in the overweight, so maybe that's a part of it? Might it be one factor to explain why women are less likely to die from this, because if they are obese the fat is more likely to be on hips and thighs rather than abdominal, so their breathing is less affected? This seems to be the case with sleep apnea.

If obesity is a significant factor then places like the US are in serious trouble. We're not too rosy here when Irish men have one the highest rates of obesity in the EU.

hairyslug · 28-03-2020 08:12AM

Ninthlife wrote: »

The likes of DHL and UPS are they still operating under the new guidelines?

DPD say they will not be affected by a lockdown but this hasn't been updated.

https://dpd.ie/DPD-Ireland-Corona-Virus-Updates

20silkcut · 28-03-2020 08:13AM

Gynoid wrote: »

And what do you think about ordinary breathing and aerosolised particles? If you are chatting with someone outside on a frosty morning it is interesting how far the visible breath stream goes, and certainly if you are in a room with someone who has very bad breath and is talking to you, you could be 10 foot away from them but quite soon the smell reaches you. Big whopping sneezes may not be the only problem? I dont know. Even as a medical person who has far more knowledge perhaps you dont know yet with this thing? There are too many gaps in our knowledge. Well, in my opinion anyway. I am not going around freaked out or anything, as I have something of a fatalistic streak. But I dont know for sure on this 2 metres, 3 metres, whatever business. Hmmmmm.

There was an expert on the radio the other day saying breathing did not transmit the virus just coughing and sneezing.

I don’t know myself it’s hard to understand.

You would assume that the vast majority of people are controlling their coughs and sneezes and not shooting them out.
Yet the virus is still spreading.
Some people spit unintentionally when they are talking or pronouncing hard sounds like P, T and C etc. You would imagine that would spread the virus. This would especially be the case when people are keeping their distance and talking from two metres and trying to projecting their voice that bit more. Better off not talking to anyone.

voluntary · 28-03-2020 08:15AM

Wibbs wrote: »

Being overweight or obese by BMI seems to be a factor in the UK too.

Americans are fuc.ed

Mysteriouschic · 28-03-2020 08:16AM

Conor Mcgregor speech on lockdown
Good he’s trying to help!
He mentioned 5 weeks first 2 weeks then 3 more weeks and talked about shutting the airports.

silverharp · 28-03-2020 08:18AM

voluntary wrote: »

Americans are fuc.ed

fast food is considered an essential service here in Ireland, Irish are fecked

Vicxas · 28-03-2020 08:21AM

Why arent we publishing the recovered numbers?

Logan Roy · 28-03-2020 08:21AM

voluntary wrote: »

Americans are fuc.ed

I wonder is it the obesity itself or the fact that most obese people would have reduced lung capacity due to lack of exercise. I know there would be some who are the exception to the rule.

whisky_galore · 28-03-2020 08:22AM

voluntary wrote: »

Americans are fuc.ed

We are a nation that swamped a new donut joint that opened, formed queues that gridlocked towns when Maccy D's was about to shut.

DOCARCH · 28-03-2020 08:23AM

Vicxas wrote: »

Why arent we publishing the recovered numbers?

Only 5 recovered (according to Worldometer).

nimrod86 · 28-03-2020 08:24AM

strathspey wrote: »

Intel isn't closing apparently. It's manufacturing sites are regarded as an essential service. Now the cynic in me says isn't it amazing how we have involved that we are now as dependent on PC chips as we are on food for survival.

Allowing big companies to decide themselves that they're essential is going to cause chaos. There's over 5000 people on site there daily, less now with some working from home, but the worker population left now (technicians) realistically can't socially distance and do work much the same as a building site.

DOCARCH · 28-03-2020 08:25AM

600,000 cases now, worldwide.

careless sherpa · 28-03-2020 08:26AM

Mysteriouschic wrote: »

Conor Mcgregor speech on lockdown
Good he’s trying to help!
He mentioned 5 weeks first 2 weeks then 3 more weeks and talked about shutting the airports.

Couple of less assaults during this lockdown period is a positive as well

CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

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CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03