CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03

dummy_crusher · 28-03-2020 06:49AM

Vicxas wrote: »

Can someone outline are manufactureres that supply retailers still ok to travel to work considering they're supplying a critical business?

Are takeaway deliveries gone too?

yogidc26 wrote: »

The list here
http://www.gov.ie/en/publication/625292-updated-list-of-essential-retail-outlets-27th-march-2020/#essential-retail-outlets

That list is retail only.

I know that some manufacturing will continue but it may depend on what it is related to. I am aware of a few people who work in companies related to medical manufacturing who have been given permits to work and travel. I would imagine the same applies for companies related to food supply and that those companies would have been contacted.

I also know of another retail company that had applied for 'essential' status and will be opening their stores tomorrow but I am not entirely certain that they have been granted any such status as of yet... They fall in a slightly grey are in fairness. I am sure there will be a lot of companies chancing it and arguing their case that they are 'essential'. Could be interesting to see how this is handled in the first few days..

frillyleaf · 28-03-2020 07:18AM

Neyite wrote: »

Because everyone has the same idea and crowds flock to those nice scenic places meaning that people like my mother who live there can't even go for a walk around her own neighborhood for the hordes of thicks who let their kids run riot and invade her personal space with no parents giving a fcuk. And since kids are basically plague rats right now, she is trying to avoid them given her health issues.

I also think it’s because of the resources it’s taking to manage and police the amount of proof that were going to these places at peak times. There’s simply too many people with the same idea to go to typical places. Up until yesterday it was ok to do so but the volumes of people that can’t go work has massively increased now, there would have been even larger numbers gathering at these places. This also give gaurds powers to break up groups of teenagers. It’s not the teenagers fault they are out. At least this way it can be managed easier. It will be interesting to see what fines will be. The message is very clear now - it’s simply stay at home unless absolutely necessary - food, medicine, essential worker or caring for elderly or children.

frillyleaf · 28-03-2020 07:23AM

fritzelly wrote: »

Only one question - why?

Some live in much more crowed conditions with less access to running water. It’s good this is happening.

73bc61lyohr0mu · 28-03-2020 07:26AM

I'm a delivery driver. I start at 11.30pm and drive from Limerick to Dublin, back to Limerick then onto Tralee before heading home. The roads this morning are eerily quiet. I've never seen them like that. I have seen a good few people out walking though, especially in Tralee.

iwillyeah1234 · 28-03-2020 07:37AM

Hopkins - 598k

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

Looks like we’re going to hit 600k today.

Tom Mann Centuria · 28-03-2020 07:40AM

Raconteuse wrote: »

Fuq... ;_;

That is one thing it's a struggle to get my head around. In over 20 years as a nurse I've seen dozens of people die, but you could always be there for them, and their family. You would be there if the patient didn't have a family, you'd be checking every few minutes near the end to make sure they didn't die alone.

When they passed away we still talk to them, do our best to make them look okay for their family, dress them in the nicest thing they had, cross their hands, give them their beads, let them hold a flower. Hopefully made it a tiny bit better for the family, and makes dealing with any death a bit easier for us too if I'm honest.

This virus takes away all of that and makes the process now almost industrial, no family (at present the guidance is one family member at the very point they die, so in reality after they've died, because they can't sit with them and guessing someone's final breath nigh on impossible), we must minimise any time with the person, only one person ever even going near them, our faces expressionless behind a mask and goggles, it's horrific, there's no dignity in death now. But this is what we will have to do.

This virus feels to me like it would watching lava from an erupting volcano slowly edge toward you and you no longer have anywhere to go, as it gets closer, and closer, and closer. Our hospital had one designated covid ward, then two, then three...... and it's not even half started yet.

Edit: for clarity the care of the dying covid patient guidance was issued yesterday and it might change.

Have this weekend off thank fcuk before nights on Monday.

windy shepard henderson · 28-03-2020 07:42AM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Dublin cases approaching 1000. Currently at 922.

you have to understand they are really good numbers , most densely populated areas around the world are totally out of control , dublin is doing fine just stick to the plan and we will be out of this crap by mid summer

Ultimanemo · 28-03-2020 07:48AM

zvone wrote: »

Simple question... My wife working in shopping center. Nothing important, she's a cleaner. Most shops a closed but some a still opened (boots, Mark and Spencer, Eurogiant.. ) She's working for cleaning company and she should work tomorrow... What now? Will she break the law if she goes to work? What if Guarda stops her? Should she stay at home? Same clarification would be nice...

If they sell food in that shopping centre she should go, cleaners are the most important members of any institution nowadays

frillyleaf · 28-03-2020 07:49AM

ThePopehimself wrote: »

Tell me about it. In an ideal world, yes.

But they are an 'Ethnic Group' and Ethnic Group is a Royal Flush here. They won't even be required to read the booklet.......(I'm holding my tongue)

Two have tested positive in my Mother in Laws Nursing Home. I saw her through the closed window today. I was wearing a mask & gloves. It was pathetic.

Bottom line; as with every other resource, unless they get all the back-up and support that there is, way beyond what anyone else in the community gets, they will fill up those ICU beds and by Jes^s will they have a choir of Angels telling the rest of us that we need to understand and appreciate their Ethnic disadvantage.

So, much and all as it peeves me - hopefully those infected are identified, isolated and separated.

Can you not understand it is for the greater good for these groups to be tested? Firstly, many of them live in cramped conditions with different family structures to ‘settled people’. Due to some living arrangements some have no access to running water - no washing hands as easily as everyone else. Another big factor is many people from these groups are disadvantaged in receiving or comprehensively understanding the information being given due to the fact of not being able to read the information.

This shouldn’t be something that annoys you. It is for the greater good and makes sense to me that this people get priority testing from a disease control point of view. In fact it’s excellent thinking. Hopefully this will extend to families living in crowded conditions in hubs, hostels, direct provision and hotels.

frillyleaf · 28-03-2020 07:50AM

biggebruv wrote: »

Is a dog walk to the park allloweed with these new rules I’m hearing mixed thing as always

Nothing mixed. If it’s within 2km from your home yes

laurah591 · 28-03-2020 07:51AM

paul71 wrote: »

And as it happens I knew that dead nurse you self entitled sanctimonious fool.

Im sorry for your loss.

too sad - can i ask what age category was she?

iFreeley · 28-03-2020 07:51AM

Quick one guys, I work as a product builder in a medical device manufacturing plant. Still no update if we will be working or not, what are your opinions will we be opened or not?

DOCARCH · 28-03-2020 07:51AM

Tom Mann Centuria wrote: »

Have this weekend off thank fcuk before nights on Monday.

I hope you can relax and enjoy the weekend!

Hooked · 28-03-2020 07:55AM

iFreeley wrote: »

Quick one guys, I work as a product builder in a medical device manufacturing plant. Still no update if we will be working or not, what are your opinions will we be opened or not?

Similar question... I’m in a print and packaging company. Providing a lot of print, IFU booklets, etc to the HSE, pharma sector, etc...

But the list on gov.ie only lists essential ‘retailers’?

Not sure if this is finite. Or will it encompass us?

AVFC.Stephen · 28-03-2020 07:56AM

Question.

Company I work for supplies pallets. We supply to every place.

We have machines and tool equipment plus a good few staff. Let's say we could be considered essential for shops like lidl aldi etc to continue business.

If we need a spare part for our machines but the engineers are closed. What is considered essential?

While I think safe distancing and extra precautions is great. I cant get my head around what's considered essential and nonessential

regedit · 28-03-2020 07:58AM

We live in Kildare and my elderly mum in Dublin. She has multiple health issues and would be considered high risk. I have tried 3-4 online delivery stores but Tesco's earliest delivery slot is 15 April, Supervalue the same etc so will have to drive 50 km unfortunately to get her groceries. Hope I am not stopped having to explain my actions but it's either this or she starves!

Gael23 · 28-03-2020 07:59AM

What happens to people living in rural areas further than 2km from shops and essential services?

Away With The Fairies · 28-03-2020 08:00AM

Is there a list of these essential businesses yet?

windy shepard henderson · 28-03-2020 08:00AM

Gael23 wrote: »

What happens to people living in rural areas further than 2km from shops and essential services?

what do you think???

the 2km rule is for walkers and joggers only ....

Wanderer78 · 28-03-2020 08:02AM

regedit wrote:

We live in Kildare and my elderly mum in Dublin. She has multiple health issues and would be considered high risk. I have tried 3-4 online delivery stores but Tesco's earliest delivery slot is 15 April, Supervalue the same etc so will have to drive 50 km unfortunately to get her groceries. Hope I am not stopped having to explain my actions but it's either this or she starves!

You should be fine, I'd imagine Gardai will understand, and this is permitted under new rules. Best of luck

ewc78 · 28-03-2020 08:03AM

Self employed Electrician here. I'm guessing my services are still considered essential in the event of a break down?

pc7 · 28-03-2020 08:05AM

Wanderer78 wrote: »

You should be fine, I'd imagine Gardai will understand, and this is permitted under new rules. Best of luck

I’ll be driving food to my folks today, same as you couldn’t get a delivery. I’ll just explain it to the guards. They will know you are genuine.

NetChat101 · 28-03-2020 08:05AM

regedit wrote: »

We live in Kildare and my elderly mum in Dublin. She has multiple health issues and would be considered high risk. I have tried 3-4 online delivery stores but Tesco's earliest delivery slot is 15 April, Supervalue the same etc so will have to drive 50 km unfortunately to get her groceries. Hope I am not stopped having to explain my actions but it's either this or she starves!

One of the exceptions to the 2km rule is if you have to care for a family member.

munster87 · 28-03-2020 08:06AM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Is there a list of these essential businesses yet?

https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/625292-updated-list-of-essential-retail-outlets-27th-march-2020/

Gael23 · 28-03-2020 08:06AM

regedit wrote: »

We live in Kildare and my elderly mum in Dublin. She has multiple health issues and would be considered high risk. I have tried 3-4 online delivery stores but Tesco's earliest delivery slot is 15 April, Supervalue the same etc so will have to drive 50 km unfortunately to get her groceries. Hope I am not stopped having to explain my actions but it's either this or she starves!

Could you take her to stay with you for a while?

AVFC.Stephen · 28-03-2020 08:07AM

ewc78 wrote: »

Self employed Electrician here. I'm guessing my services are still considered essential in the event of a break down?

Where will you get your parts? This idea of essential and nonessential really doesnt make sense

autumnbelle · 28-03-2020 08:08AM

ewc78 wrote: »

Self employed Electrician here. I'm guessing my services are still considered essential in the event of a break down?

Yeah call outs are on the list

Hooked · 28-03-2020 08:08AM

https://www.gov.ie/en/news/7e0924-latest-updates-on-covid-19-coronavirus/

Updated list here BUT I still can’t be sure if they are going to amend it... as it only lists retailers???

It also says those stores must observe physical distancing but also says we should only go out for food and medicine? So do I go to B&Q to get repair materials - or am I not allowed out with the exception of food/medical.

I’m all for these measures but the info is contradictory

NetChat101 · 28-03-2020 08:09AM

Gael23 wrote: »

What happens to people living in rural areas further than 2km from shops and essential services?

Obviously if your supermarket/chemist is more than 2km away you can go for your essentials.

regedit · 28-03-2020 08:09AM

Gael23 wrote: »

Could you take her to stay with you for a while?

We have kids and the fear is they could pass it on if they somehow acquire it. Children have very good immunity. Elderly people not so

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CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03