CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03

spookwoman · 28-03-2020 03:35AM

https://twitter.com/NewstalkFM/status/1243736855247491072?s=20

showpony1 · 28-03-2020 03:36AM

paddythere wrote: »

What about a 6 mile run? Are you expecting stay within 2km of your house during a run?

you sound like the type that would be running the streets around Camden street and Central Bank at rush hours cursing at people walking on the foot paths for being in your way.

eagle eye · 28-03-2020 03:37AM

paul71 wrote:

No I live 10 miles from the nearest town and I will obey the laws introduced by our government to safeguard lives, I dispair of self entitled prats who refuse to do so.

These measures are clearly for densely populated areas to try and avoid more clusters. As I said earlier in the thread I've been bringing my dogs out to the middle of nowhere for walks where I'm not going to meet anybody. If I walk around my locality I'll be struggling to avoid people.
Which do you think is the more sensible option for me to take as regards taking measures to avoid the spread of cocid-19?

WAW · 28-03-2020 03:39AM

There's some amount of hysteria on this thread. People should read over what they've written. Some of it is surreal. A person going for a walk in an isolated area near their home is a non issue. How many people do you personally know are ill with Covid 19? Yes, there's a virus but take a reality check. A healthy immune system is the best thing to counter any virus. Fresh air and sunshine are a big part of that be it a 2 k walk or a 10 k walk! Country dwellers going for a nice long fresh walk are far less likely to spread or contract the virus than a load of urban dwellers social distancing within a 2 k radius surely.

paul71 · 28-03-2020 03:39AM

I am going to bed, it has been a gut wenching day, but before I go I say simply this.

This disease is going to kill someone YOU know. It is in your control, not the governments, whether it kills 1 person you know or several.

cnocbui · 28-03-2020 03:40AM

snoopboggybog wrote: »

He's not going to spread the virus by walking there in all honesty. Would be no difference walking there or staying at home. Don't see the problem. Who's he going to infect? Please I'd love to know?

Better off walking there than a public street.

U would be 100 times worse in a crowded area. Maybe some people on this thread don't have the IQ to realize this.

Nailed it.

I usually only encounter 1, perhaps 2, and often not a single other person. I had to go shopping today. That would be at least a million times more likely to acquire or pass on infection, but it has to be done, the troops and the cats need to be fed. I don't touch my face, I use hand sanitiser, and when I get home I wash my hands, go back and wipe the front door handles, the steering wheel, the gear knob, indicator stalks, door handles the hatch hand grip. I even wipe down my purchases before putting them away and I have been doing all this for the last 4 weeks.

I have been well ahead of the high horsemen, the government and Varadkar. I even have hand sanitiser bought in Lidl before these obedience clowns probably even knew there was such a thing as Covid-19. I have been advocating the seriousness of what was to come, which we are now experiencing, since the first thread. Now instead of all the 'it's just a flu' idiots and 'you are all panicking over nothing' clowns, we have these 11th thread on the topic blow-ins who have just found religion, getting wind up their skirts about people not following the letter of the scripture. It's frankly comic.

TheDenialTwist · 28-03-2020 03:44AM

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

A 50 euro or so fine might though which will be the next measure brought in due to knob jockeys like your good self.

Just catching up on here, as I haven't posted on this since thread X.

Yes, some countries that are in lock down have been imposing fines, a random example is Cyprus, whereby anyone seen out in the streets violating the lock down, it's an immediate fine.

Then you have the other extreme like in India where people are beaten by police for being outdoors.

I wonder how the Gardaí will enforce the new measures introduced here?

Hopefully people will use common sense and abide. And I think the vast majority of people will. Especially now, since over half of transmission is via Community Transmission.

And for the few who do not adhere, I guess that's an issue for the Gardaí to decide what kind of penalty to impose.

And sadly, it's those few people (idiots or knob jockeys as you rightly said) who do not use common sense or even have a sense of moral responsibility that will result in further spread of the virus and ultimately more deaths.

ThePopehimself · 28-03-2020 03:44AM

fritzelly wrote: »

The only people that should be getting priority testing is frontline health care workers followed by the elderly or high risk groups (e.g. cancer, lung issues etc), after that everybody else

Tell me about it. In an ideal world, yes.

But they are an 'Ethnic Group' and Ethnic Group is a Royal Flush here. They won't even be required to read the booklet.......(I'm holding my tongue)

Two have tested positive in my Mother in Laws Nursing Home. I saw her through the closed window today. I was wearing a mask & gloves. It was pathetic.

Bottom line; as with every other resource, unless they get all the back-up and support that there is, way beyond what anyone else in the community gets, they will fill up those ICU beds and by Jes^s will they have a choir of Angels telling the rest of us that we need to understand and appreciate their Ethnic disadvantage.

So, much and all as it peeves me - hopefully those infected are identified, isolated and separated.

the whole year inn · 28-03-2020 03:45AM

snoopboggybog wrote: »

He's not going to spread the virus by walking there in all honesty. Would be no difference walking there or staying at home. Don't see the problem. Who's he going to infect? Please I'd love to know?

Better off walking there than a public street.

U would be 100 times worse in a crowded area. Maybe some people on this thread don't have the IQ to realize this.

He showed 2 empty pictures of empty roads , I understand he may not meet anyone but can we not keep it very simple , if your lucky enough to have that dont abuse it either.Could he not walk .5k there and back.Or just sit at home watch your fancy .

I honestly dont get this exercise, what athletes here are missing out . Its 2 weeks and peoples lives are at risk , lets help everyone please!!

biggebruv · 28-03-2020 03:48AM

Is a dog walk to the park allloweed with these new rules I’m hearing mixed thing as always

fritzelly · 28-03-2020 03:49AM

WAW wrote: »

There's some amount of hysteria on this thread. People should read over what they've written. Some of it is surreal. A person going for a walk in an isolated area near their home is a non issue. How many people do you personally know are ill with Covid 19? Yes, there's a virus but take a reality check. A healthy immune system is the best thing to counter any virus. Fresh air and sunshine are a big part of that be it a 2 k walk or a 10 k walk! Country dwellers going for a nice long fresh walk are far less likely to spread or contract the virus than a load of urban dwellers social distancing within a 2 k radius surely.

Tell that to the doctors working all hours under the sun and dying from it - I'm sure it will give them great solace that you are doing your bit by ignoring governmental advice
Whether it's a 1% chance or a 100% chance of spreading it you are still at risk of spreading or contracting it
But don't let that get in the way of your personal freedoms

DisneyLover · 28-03-2020 03:50AM

Has anyone been on the darts how are they getting on with the new timetable during this are they empty??

Back to work Wednesday in bio chem ...

Presume all construction sites will be closed and only emergency services, pharmacist and food shops will be only people working yes ...??

fritzelly · 28-03-2020 03:52AM

biggebruv wrote: »

Is a dog walk to the park allloweed with these new rules I’m hearing mixed thing as always

Yes

28-03-2020 03:52AM

paul71 wrote: »

I am going to bed, it has been a gut wenching day, but before I go I say simply this.

This disease is going to kill someone YOU know. It is in your control, not the governments, whether it kills 1 person you know or several.

Is this a scare tactic to make people behave better, or do you genuinely believe that everyone in Ireland will lose someone to it?

cnocbui · 28-03-2020 03:53AM

the whole year inn wrote: »

He showed 2 empty pictures of empty roads , I understand he may not meet anyone but can we not keep it very simple , if your lucky enough to have that dont abuse it either.Could he not walk .5k there and back.Or just sit at home watch your fancy .

I honestly dont get this exercise, what athletes here are missing out . Its 2 weeks and peoples lives are at risk , lets help everyone please!!

Here's what I could do. I could walk 2km, walk back 2k, walk back out to 2km, walk back. What f'n difference does that make vs walking 4k and then back; seriously, how does that magical piece of blind rule following protect health workers? That silly 2k scenario would actually increase the chances of passing 5m from someone because the further you go, the less likely you are to encounter someone else anyway.

People have fallen of their mental trollies; if they were ever on them in the first place.

Raconteuse · 28-03-2020 03:54AM

fritzelly wrote: »

Tell that to the doctors working all hours under the sun and dying from it - I'm sure it will give them great solace that you are doing your bit by ignoring governmental advice
Whether it's a 1% chance or a 100% chance of spreading it you are still at risk of spreading or contracting it
But don't let that get in the way of your personal freedoms

"A healthy immune system is the best thing to counter any virus" (stop the research, no need for a vaccine!) They're not for real though. They can't be. If they are... yikes.

28-03-2020 03:54AM

I started watching coverage of this on CNN about 10 days ago. There was 8,500 confirmed cases. Tonight there are over 100,000 confirmed cases. It will be 1 million cases in around the same time again, and hopefully not, 8 - 10 million in about 20 days time.

Say for the sake of argument a mortality rate if 2% (it has been 10% in Italy), thats a scary figure.

fritzelly · 28-03-2020 03:54AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Is this a scare tactic to make people behave better, or do you genuinely believe that everyone in Ireland will lose someone to it?

Alas good chance everyone will know someone, even if only by acquaintance, if we don't stop it in its tracks now

28-03-2020 03:58AM

fritzelly wrote: »

Alas good chance everyone will know someone, even if only by acquaintance, if we don't stop it in its tracks now

That's not what the poster said. He said the difference in action now is the difference between one person you know dying, or several. He already said it was a gut wrenching day. If he's worked himself into such a state that he thinks everyone is going to lose someone no matter what, he needs to stop reading about this stuff.

Raconteuse · 28-03-2020 03:59AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Is this a scare tactic to make people behave better, or do you genuinely believe that everyone in Ireland will lose someone to it?

Yeah I think I'm pretty clued in as to the seriousness of this - glued to it. But there is a lot of "mights"/"coulds" being claimed as "wills". It's already worrying enough with the actual facts (I can't sleep even though I'm knackered). Nothing should be stated as fact without evidence.

We might all know or know of someone who is diagnosed with it, but not even in Italy would everyone know someone who has died.

ThePopehimself · 28-03-2020 03:59AM

paul71 wrote: »

I am going to bed, it has been a gut wenching day, but before I go I say simply this.

This disease is going to kill someone YOU know. It is in your control, not the governments, whether it kills 1 person you know or several.

I hope you sleep okay, sorry for your loss - it has clearly been a very distressing day.

Wishing you well.

WAW · 28-03-2020 04:02AM

paul71 wrote: »

There is a post 5 above you from the spouse and family of a health care worker.

Yesterday a nurse in the ICU of the mater hospital died protecting us from this virus.

Our government has passed a law on the advice of Medical experts to help save the lives of our elderly and protect people like that nurse.

You question that because you want to go for a run.

GROW UP.

Nobody wants anyone to die from covid. But the reality is that health care workers, doctors, nurses die every year - some of them due to the nature of their work. You just don't hear about but we're hearing about it now but only if it's from covid. It's not disrespectful to point that out.

gormdubhgorm · 28-03-2020 04:03AM

paddythere wrote: »

What about a 6 mile run? Are you expecting stay within 2km of your house during a run?

showpony1 wrote: »

you sound like the type that would be running the streets around Camden street and Central Bank at rush hours cursing at people walking on the foot paths for being in your way.

Plus the genius that is paddythere, has not figured out that he could do three laps of a 2km route. And that the idea of the 2km limit is to keep any virus localised.

fritzelly · 28-03-2020 04:03AM

ThePopehimself wrote: »

Tell me about it. In an ideal world, yes.

But they are an 'Ethnic Group' and Ethnic Group is a Royal Flush here. They won't even be required to read the booklet.......(I'm holding my tongue)

Two have tested positive in my Mother in Laws Nursing Home. I saw her through the closed window today. I was wearing a mask & gloves. It was pathetic.

Bottom line; as with every other resource, unless they get all the back-up and support that there is, way beyond what anyone else in the community gets, they will fill up those ICU beds and by Jes^s will they have a choir of Angels telling the rest of us that we need to understand and appreciate their Ethnic disadvantage.

So, much and all as it peeves me - hopefully those infected are identified, isolated and separated.

Get what you are saying but it is not right
The other half's mother is in a care home - currently on a drip, very old (several other things wrong with her but not life threatening). If she caught this she would be dead in a day. They already had one care worker confirmed with it.

I don't see why any one group of people should be given any preference to testing. Everyone has the same chance of catching it and everyone has the same chance of being seriously ill and dying from it - look at the Italy videos, lots of 30-50 year olds needing respiratory aid. Now the US (NY especially) videos of doctors coming out saying its not an old persons disease - everyone can be seriously ill.

28-03-2020 04:03AM

Raconteuse wrote: »

Yeah I think I'm pretty clued in as to the seriousness of this - glued to it. But there is a lot of "mights"/"coulds" being claimed as "wills". It's already worrying enough with the actual facts (I can't sleep even though I'm knackered). Nothing should be stated as fact without evidence.

We might all know or know of someone who is diagnosed with it, but not even in Italy would everyone know someone who has died.

For everyone in Italy to have lost someone they know up to this point, the average person would need to know 6,666 people.

fritzelly · 28-03-2020 04:06AM

Raconteuse wrote: »

Yeah I think I'm pretty clued in as to the seriousness of this - glued to it. But there is a lot of "mights"/"coulds" being claimed as "wills". It's already worrying enough with the actual facts (I can't sleep even though I'm knackered). Nothing should be stated as fact without evidence.

We might all know or know of someone who is diagnosed with it, but not even in Italy would everyone know someone who has died.

Ireland being a lot more closely knit community the chances are you would know someone

ThePopehimself · 28-03-2020 04:06AM

DisneyLover wrote: »

Has anyone been on the darts how are they getting on with the new timetable during this are they empty??

Back to work Wednesday in bio chem ...

Presume all construction sites will be closed and only emergency services, pharmacist and food shops will be only people working yes ...??

Good to see you're on the mend!

gormdubhgorm · 28-03-2020 04:07AM

WAW wrote: »

Nobody wants anyone to die from covid. But the reality is that health care workers, doctors, nurses die every year - some of them due to the nature of their work. You just don't hear about but we're hearing about it now but only if it's from covid. It's not disrespectful to point that out.

Statistically health care workers are now more likely to die than any other year or any other month or any other day of the year worldwide not just in Ireland. That is the point. To engage in whataboutery,at a time like this; when everyone should be pulling in the same direction is quite frankly staggering.

fritzelly · 28-03-2020 04:08AM

Deleted User wrote: »

For everyone in Italy to have lost someone they know up to this point, the average person would need to know 6,666 people.

Away with you and the number of the beast

WAW · 28-03-2020 04:10AM

Raconteuse wrote: »

"A healthy immune system is the best thing to counter any virus" (stop the research, no need for a vaccine!) They're not for real though. They can't be. If they are... yikes.

I am for real. A healthy immune system will allow you to contract a virus and fight it off. A vaccine, whilst useful will only protect you against one strain of anything. You cannot vaccinate against everything and new viruses pop up all the time therefore it's crucial to have a strong immune system. Surely you are not suggesting vaccination is better than healthy immune systems because even a doctor wouldn't say that!

CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

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CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03