CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03

Psychedelic Hedgehog · 28-03-2020 03:53AM

growleaves wrote: »

No people are objecting to anyone leaving their house at all. That's what I'm responding to.

Try putting yourself in this guy's shoes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IQnWqpv0_w

28-03-2020 03:53AM

growleaves wrote: »

Me being entitled? Why do you think I've spent the last two weeks arguing with on this web site? I haven't gone anywhere (non-essential)

Everything is being subordinated to controlling this virus. Not just 'the economy', every semblance of normality.

Yet it still isn't enough. People still call it 'soft' that people can roam outside their apartment for five minutes, without seeing a single person, in spite that you woud wither away if you spent last winter, this summer and next winter indoors (1.5 years without sunshine).

You need to wise up. All the massive stress putting everyone under will be tanking immune systems all over the shop.

Ignoring reality went change anything. You can get sunshine without walking for miles. It's been said a few times now how.

I also haven't argued for total isolation. I know the mental stress it causes.

But you are still the guy that's shrugging the requests of the emergency services and medical experts off while arguing for your right to saunter about willy nilly.

NegativeCreep · 28-03-2020 03:55AM

hot buttered scones wrote: »

I work for a pharma company too, although we are making product atm and I got a similiar text. If you practice correct social distancing at work then maybe it will be ok

I know what you’re saying but working on the manufacturing floor makes it impossible so socially distance.

skimpydoo · 28-03-2020 03:55AM

Need a Username wrote: »

To be fair, she/he never said they were a good journalist.

But I have been published in Phoenix Magazine so I can't be that bad.

28-03-2020 03:58AM

hot buttered scones wrote: »

I work in the Pharma industry as a lab tech so I can't work from home. We were handed letters on Thursday morning to say we are essential workers - to be shown to the Gardaí in case we are stopped on the way to work. I also got a text tonight to say I am an essential worker and I am to com into work. We are practicing very effective social distancing and hand hygiene at work. I get the feeling they were on the know about what was coming. Both my parents are over 70. My sister has an autoimmune condition. I expect all of them will have to be cocooned, so I'll be doing the shopping etc. for them if they can't get online deliveries. There is no way my parents could managr online shopping unless I did it for them. My wife and kids are asthmatic - I'm not sure if they are in an at risk category. So I don't know if I should go out at all even though I need to for work and to help my family out. I think the current government have handled this pretty well so far, but I hope I can get some more clarity by tomorrow. Sorry if this is a bit rambling. I suppose I'm just venting really.

My understanding is that you should still work but naturally your families existing illnesses are a cause for concern.

I don't have any great answer I'm afraid. Your essential but by the same token, have a duty to your family.

Clean everything, wash hands and so on.

cnocbui · 28-03-2020 03:59AM

paul71 wrote: »

So you know that 14.56 km is the distance you can go on 1 radius, the circumference and back. Well done your problem is now solved.

Will you now make the effort the prevent the deaths of any more nurses in our ICUs?

You must live in a city. Nice theory, you should try walking 14.56 km in wellies.

I saw your earlier appeal to the example of those who fought in wars. My father did just that in WW2, and I know he wouldn't have stopped at 2km, which I won't be doing either, because your whataboutry in claiming such activity is a threat to the well being of nurses is sanctimonious pig swill. I will take any and all measures that are sensible and which might possibly make a difference.

See anyone to infect or be infected by?:

I'll continue my walks.

hot buttered scones · 28-03-2020 04:03AM

NegativeCreep wrote: »

I know what you’re saying but working on the manufacturing floor makes it impossible so socially distance.

Then your company should take measures to ensure it is. We removed most of the seats from the canteens. The main canteen now has tape on the tables to ensure everyome sits 2m apart. Everyone who can work from home is. A lot of people have been moved out of my office to offices left empty by the WFH crowd. Meetings are being done by Webex. We keep our distance in the lab. Break times have been staggered and shift times altered so shifts don't meet each other. Hand sanitisers have been installed everywhere.

If you can't socially distance then wear PPE. We have "dust masks" which are actually FFP3 respirators and airhoods. Most of the cancer drugs are high potency are they not? If so then they should be made in a high containment unit surely and you should wearing an air hood.

Or you could just say you've developed a cough amd self isolate for 2 weeks.

hot buttered scones · 28-03-2020 04:06AM

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

My understanding is that you should still work but naturally your families existing illnesses are a cause for concern.

I don't have any great answer I'm afraid. Your essential but by the same token, have a duty to your family.

Clean everything, wash hands and so on.

Thanks. My job is essential - sick people need drugs. I'm not in until Tuesday so I'll think on it. I might ask to do all nights for a bit - that way I'll meet far less people. And drink less cans ðŸ˜€

NegativeCreep · 28-03-2020 04:08AM

hot buttered scones wrote: »

Then your company should take measures to ensure it is. We removed most of the seats from the canteens. The main canteen now has tape on the tables to ensure everyome sits 2m apart. Everyone who can work from home is. A lot of people have been moved out of my office to offices left empty by the WFH crowd. Meetings are being done by Webex. We keep our distance in the lab. Break times have been staggered and shift times altered so shifts don't meet each other. Hand sanitisers have been installed everywhere.

If you can't socially distance then wear PPE. We have "dust masks" which are actually FFP3 respirators and airhoods. Most of the cancer drugs are high potency are they not? If so then they should be made in a high containment unit surely and you should wearing an air hood.

Or you could just say you've developed a cough amd self isolate for 2 weeks.

Not during upstream processing no.

I guess I’ll have the ask the relevant people in my company when I’m back it. Cheers everyone

snoopboggybog · 28-03-2020 04:10AM

the whole year inn wrote: »

Your a ****ing clown , what are you losing out in two weeks.Honest to god ,what's wrong with people just stay in doors unless for essentials. Walk around the house if you need exercise. You have 2k grace but you seem hell bent on breaking that , you deserve what you get.

He's not going to spread the virus by walking there in all honesty. Would be no difference walking there or staying at home. Don't see the problem. Who's he going to infect? Please I'd love to know?

Better off walking there than a public street.

U would be 100 times worse in a crowded area. Maybe some people on this thread don't have the IQ to realize this.

hot buttered scones · 28-03-2020 04:17AM

snoopboggybog wrote: »

He's not going to spread the virus by walking there in all honesty. Would be no difference walking there or staying at home. Don't see the problem. Who's he going to infect? Please I'd love to know?

Better off walking there than a public street.

U would be 100 times worse in a crowded area. Maybe some people on this thread don't have the IQ to realize this.

It's about excercising some personal responsibility and not taking unneccesary risks. So, yeah if you live in an isolated area then obviously going outside the 2k limit isn't a risk. You're more than likely not going to meet anyone. It's a different story in a built up area of course.

cnocbui · 28-03-2020 04:19AM

the whole year inn wrote: »

>snip epic high horsery<, you deserve what you get.

Yes, sunshine, fresh air, exercise and a strengthened immune system.

paul71 · 28-03-2020 04:21AM

cnocbui wrote: »

You must live in a city. Nice theory, you should try walking 14.56 km in wellies.

I saw your earlier appeal to the example of those who fought in wars. My father did just that in WW2, and I know he wouldn't have stopped at 2km, which I won't be doing either, because your whataboutry in claiming such activity is a threat to the well being of nurses is sanctimonious pig swill. I will take any and all measures that are sensible and which might possibly make a difference.

See anyone to infect or be infected by?:

I'll continue my walks.

No I live 10 miles from the nearest town and I will obey the laws introduced by our government to safeguard lives, I dispair of self entitled prats who refuse to do so.

ThePopehimself · 28-03-2020 04:22AM

Psychedelic Hedgehog wrote: »

Try putting yourself in this guy's shoes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IQnWqpv0_w

That's gut wrenching

spookwoman · 28-03-2020 04:35AM

https://twitter.com/NewstalkFM/status/1243736855247491072?s=20

showpony1 · 28-03-2020 04:36AM

paddythere wrote: »

What about a 6 mile run? Are you expecting stay within 2km of your house during a run?

you sound like the type that would be running the streets around Camden street and Central Bank at rush hours cursing at people walking on the foot paths for being in your way.

eagle eye · 28-03-2020 04:37AM

paul71 wrote:

No I live 10 miles from the nearest town and I will obey the laws introduced by our government to safeguard lives, I dispair of self entitled prats who refuse to do so.

These measures are clearly for densely populated areas to try and avoid more clusters. As I said earlier in the thread I've been bringing my dogs out to the middle of nowhere for walks where I'm not going to meet anybody. If I walk around my locality I'll be struggling to avoid people.
Which do you think is the more sensible option for me to take as regards taking measures to avoid the spread of cocid-19?

WAW · 28-03-2020 04:39AM

There's some amount of hysteria on this thread. People should read over what they've written. Some of it is surreal. A person going for a walk in an isolated area near their home is a non issue. How many people do you personally know are ill with Covid 19? Yes, there's a virus but take a reality check. A healthy immune system is the best thing to counter any virus. Fresh air and sunshine are a big part of that be it a 2 k walk or a 10 k walk! Country dwellers going for a nice long fresh walk are far less likely to spread or contract the virus than a load of urban dwellers social distancing within a 2 k radius surely.

paul71 · 28-03-2020 04:39AM

I am going to bed, it has been a gut wenching day, but before I go I say simply this.

This disease is going to kill someone YOU know. It is in your control, not the governments, whether it kills 1 person you know or several.

cnocbui · 28-03-2020 04:40AM

snoopboggybog wrote: »

He's not going to spread the virus by walking there in all honesty. Would be no difference walking there or staying at home. Don't see the problem. Who's he going to infect? Please I'd love to know?

Better off walking there than a public street.

U would be 100 times worse in a crowded area. Maybe some people on this thread don't have the IQ to realize this.

Nailed it.

I usually only encounter 1, perhaps 2, and often not a single other person. I had to go shopping today. That would be at least a million times more likely to acquire or pass on infection, but it has to be done, the troops and the cats need to be fed. I don't touch my face, I use hand sanitiser, and when I get home I wash my hands, go back and wipe the front door handles, the steering wheel, the gear knob, indicator stalks, door handles the hatch hand grip. I even wipe down my purchases before putting them away and I have been doing all this for the last 4 weeks.

I have been well ahead of the high horsemen, the government and Varadkar. I even have hand sanitiser bought in Lidl before these obedience clowns probably even knew there was such a thing as Covid-19. I have been advocating the seriousness of what was to come, which we are now experiencing, since the first thread. Now instead of all the 'it's just a flu' idiots and 'you are all panicking over nothing' clowns, we have these 11th thread on the topic blow-ins who have just found religion, getting wind up their skirts about people not following the letter of the scripture. It's frankly comic.

TheDenialTwist · 28-03-2020 04:44AM

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

A 50 euro or so fine might though which will be the next measure brought in due to knob jockeys like your good self.

Just catching up on here, as I haven't posted on this since thread X.

Yes, some countries that are in lock down have been imposing fines, a random example is Cyprus, whereby anyone seen out in the streets violating the lock down, it's an immediate fine.

Then you have the other extreme like in India where people are beaten by police for being outdoors.

I wonder how the Gardaí will enforce the new measures introduced here?

Hopefully people will use common sense and abide. And I think the vast majority of people will. Especially now, since over half of transmission is via Community Transmission.

And for the few who do not adhere, I guess that's an issue for the Gardaí to decide what kind of penalty to impose.

And sadly, it's those few people (idiots or knob jockeys as you rightly said) who do not use common sense or even have a sense of moral responsibility that will result in further spread of the virus and ultimately more deaths.

ThePopehimself · 28-03-2020 04:44AM

fritzelly wrote: »

The only people that should be getting priority testing is frontline health care workers followed by the elderly or high risk groups (e.g. cancer, lung issues etc), after that everybody else

Tell me about it. In an ideal world, yes.

But they are an 'Ethnic Group' and Ethnic Group is a Royal Flush here. They won't even be required to read the booklet.......(I'm holding my tongue)

Two have tested positive in my Mother in Laws Nursing Home. I saw her through the closed window today. I was wearing a mask & gloves. It was pathetic.

Bottom line; as with every other resource, unless they get all the back-up and support that there is, way beyond what anyone else in the community gets, they will fill up those ICU beds and by Jes^s will they have a choir of Angels telling the rest of us that we need to understand and appreciate their Ethnic disadvantage.

So, much and all as it peeves me - hopefully those infected are identified, isolated and separated.

the whole year inn · 28-03-2020 04:45AM

snoopboggybog wrote: »

He's not going to spread the virus by walking there in all honesty. Would be no difference walking there or staying at home. Don't see the problem. Who's he going to infect? Please I'd love to know?

Better off walking there than a public street.

U would be 100 times worse in a crowded area. Maybe some people on this thread don't have the IQ to realize this.

He showed 2 empty pictures of empty roads , I understand he may not meet anyone but can we not keep it very simple , if your lucky enough to have that dont abuse it either.Could he not walk .5k there and back.Or just sit at home watch your fancy .

I honestly dont get this exercise, what athletes here are missing out . Its 2 weeks and peoples lives are at risk , lets help everyone please!!

biggebruv · 28-03-2020 04:48AM

Is a dog walk to the park allloweed with these new rules I’m hearing mixed thing as always

fritzelly · 28-03-2020 04:49AM

WAW wrote: »

There's some amount of hysteria on this thread. People should read over what they've written. Some of it is surreal. A person going for a walk in an isolated area near their home is a non issue. How many people do you personally know are ill with Covid 19? Yes, there's a virus but take a reality check. A healthy immune system is the best thing to counter any virus. Fresh air and sunshine are a big part of that be it a 2 k walk or a 10 k walk! Country dwellers going for a nice long fresh walk are far less likely to spread or contract the virus than a load of urban dwellers social distancing within a 2 k radius surely.

Tell that to the doctors working all hours under the sun and dying from it - I'm sure it will give them great solace that you are doing your bit by ignoring governmental advice
Whether it's a 1% chance or a 100% chance of spreading it you are still at risk of spreading or contracting it
But don't let that get in the way of your personal freedoms

DisneyLover · 28-03-2020 04:50AM

Has anyone been on the darts how are they getting on with the new timetable during this are they empty??

Back to work Wednesday in bio chem ...

Presume all construction sites will be closed and only emergency services, pharmacist and food shops will be only people working yes ...??

fritzelly · 28-03-2020 04:52AM

biggebruv wrote: »

Is a dog walk to the park allloweed with these new rules I’m hearing mixed thing as always

Yes

28-03-2020 04:52AM

paul71 wrote: »

I am going to bed, it has been a gut wenching day, but before I go I say simply this.

This disease is going to kill someone YOU know. It is in your control, not the governments, whether it kills 1 person you know or several.

Is this a scare tactic to make people behave better, or do you genuinely believe that everyone in Ireland will lose someone to it?

cnocbui · 28-03-2020 04:53AM

the whole year inn wrote: »

He showed 2 empty pictures of empty roads , I understand he may not meet anyone but can we not keep it very simple , if your lucky enough to have that dont abuse it either.Could he not walk .5k there and back.Or just sit at home watch your fancy .

I honestly dont get this exercise, what athletes here are missing out . Its 2 weeks and peoples lives are at risk , lets help everyone please!!

Here's what I could do. I could walk 2km, walk back 2k, walk back out to 2km, walk back. What f'n difference does that make vs walking 4k and then back; seriously, how does that magical piece of blind rule following protect health workers? That silly 2k scenario would actually increase the chances of passing 5m from someone because the further you go, the less likely you are to encounter someone else anyway.

People have fallen of their mental trollies; if they were ever on them in the first place.

Raconteuse · 28-03-2020 04:54AM

fritzelly wrote: »

Tell that to the doctors working all hours under the sun and dying from it - I'm sure it will give them great solace that you are doing your bit by ignoring governmental advice
Whether it's a 1% chance or a 100% chance of spreading it you are still at risk of spreading or contracting it
But don't let that get in the way of your personal freedoms

"A healthy immune system is the best thing to counter any virus" (stop the research, no need for a vaccine!) They're not for real though. They can't be. If they are... yikes.

CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

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CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03