CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03

jackboy · 27-03-2020 05:35PM

Xertz wrote: »

There are massive knock on effects to what’s going on in the major hospitals and it’s not all just those directly impacted. Many others are being put as risk due to the squeeze on facilities and staff.

I suspect that this is a major issue in all the countries with high levels of the virus. Can you imagine the situation in Italy.

Unfortunately, the virus is highest profile and therefore will be given highest priority. I suspect a lot of what you have mentioned is going on without proper communication.

Mervyn Skidmore · 27-03-2020 05:35PM

timhenn wrote: »

Bollox. Look at other countries of similar population.

Singapore 2 deaths.
Finland 5 deaths.

If we get up near 1,000 deaths, it will be a horrible indictment of the steps taken by those in charge.

Is it over in those countries?

is_that_so · 27-03-2020 05:35PM

threeball wrote: »

1000 deaths here would make us worse than Italy pro-rata. I'd be very surprised if that figure is realised.

It's a number Holohan used for deaths over a flu' season and seemed to hint this could be similar.

amadangomor · 27-03-2020 05:36PM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Which while horrific is not as bad as originally forecast

Again as sad and horrific as this is people will die its just a matter of trying to keep the number as low as we possibly can

Confirmed cases is a poor indicator now because of limited testing capacity.

We need to look at the amount of people in hospital/ICU and unfortunately deaths as a more reliable means of knowing where we are with this/

MrMusician18 · 27-03-2020 05:36PM

Red for Danger wrote: »

Those flattening the curve maps aren't for adults their for the children something you can show them to help them sleep at night. Like all dogs go to heaven etc.

It time for adults to start facing reality as facing into this thing with the with a practical approach is far better than burying your head in the sand.

Also for those who are eager to sort out this wet market thing in china could you also sort out hunger in Africa, climate change and guns in America while ur at it.
You'll have a busy summer.

The amount of hibernating posters this crisis has brought out is quite staggering.

timhenn · 27-03-2020 05:37PM

Mervyn Skidmore wrote: »

Is it over in those countries?

No! Not here either. And not by a long shot!

Mervyn Skidmore · 27-03-2020 05:38PM

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

In case you missed it Leo said today that he expects all ICU beds to be at capacity within days and the death toll to be at least 1000 within the next few weeks.

http://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/coronavirus/coronavirus-deaths-will-only-increase-in-coming-weeks-taoiseach-warns/ar-BB11NCWt?li=BBr5KbJ

There's inconsistency on how this has been reported. RTE says he'd be surprised if there were less than 1000 deaths after the crisis. Big difference.

ChikiChiki · 27-03-2020 05:39PM

We've grinded down the health service for years whilst simultaneously overpending 4x on a children's hospital in the wrong location.

Although I'm impressed with the Government response, I'm not confident that we are anywhere near moderately prepared for a crisis of this magnitude based on the above. One of the lowest ICU bed availability numbers per 100000 people confirms that.

A high number of Health Staff already infected. Some tough weeks ahead.

We all have a duty to do our bit and keep apart this weekend.

Xertz · 27-03-2020 05:39PM

jackboy wrote: »

I suspect that this is a major issue in all the countries with high levels of the virus. Can you imagine the situation in Italy.

Unfortunately, the virus is highest profile and therefore will be given highest priority. I suspect a lot of what you have mentioned is going on without proper communication.

They’re not wonderful at communication at the best of times.
They need serious help with it to ensure they are managing these things as best as they can. Perhaps it’s an area where we should be seeking people who’ve been laid off from say public tourism bodies or whatever could be cleared to help with this stuff.

While there’s a big crush at the front lines, there’s gargantuan organisational tasks need to be done in the background and, frankly, it’s not an area where our systems have been great performers even in in normal times. They need help and to facilitate and be willing to accept it.

Ardent · 27-03-2020 05:39PM

On a slightly related note -

I'm pleased to see an email from BOI today offering support services for customers during this pandemic. They include payment breaks for mortgages and loans, banking services for people who are in self isolation and waiving fees for contactless payments.

Nice one BOI. I hope other banks follow suit.

Mervyn Skidmore · 27-03-2020 05:39PM

timhenn wrote: »

No! Not here either. And not by a long shot!

Well that's my point. How can you say they've been successful when we're both in the middle or beginning of the crisis?

threeball · 27-03-2020 05:39PM

is_that_so wrote: »

It's a number Holohan used for deaths over a flu' season and seemed to hint this could be similar.

Yes but there are no measures taken to avoid flu bar a shot. If we shut down the country and end up with 1000 deaths then something has gone very wrong somewhere. Italy would need to get up to 13000 deaths to match us if that ends up the total. And they and Spain are supposedly the worse case scenario

Blueshoe · 27-03-2020 05:40PM

Our restrictions are too loose. Many businesses still operating as per usual.

I hope we don't regret this half hearted decision. Even 2 weeks would help slow infection spread. Give our hospitals a chance. Leo has said we will be at max ICU capabilities in a few days. An European health body has also raised concern regarding Ireland's emergency healthcare system to cope

Professor Moriarty · 27-03-2020 05:40PM

ChikiChiki wrote: »

We've grinded down the health service for years whilst simultaneously overpending 4x on a children's hospital in the wrong location.

Although I'm impressed with the Government response, I'm not confident that we are anywhere near moderately prepared for a crisis of this magnitude based in the above. One of the lowest ICU bed availability numbers per 100000 people confirms that.

A high number of Health Staff already infected. Some tough weeks ahead.

Commandeering the private hospitals was a good move and will help greatly.

Kermit.de.frog · 27-03-2020 05:40PM

https://twitter.com/Rubberbandits/status/1243494193630191618

The One Doctor · 27-03-2020 05:40PM

kowloon wrote: »

I had it a few years back and it went from going to lectures to needing a lie down to my housemates ringing an ambulance in less than a day.

I've had it too and while it moves fast and simple injection of antibiotics and a two week course of antibiotics sorts it out very fast.

MarkY91 · 27-03-2020 05:43PM

Great website to use for visualization.

https://www.covidvisualizer.com

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 27-03-2020 05:43PM

Xertz wrote: »

That’s the other issue. People will die due to being unable to access A&E services or by staying away as they’re afraid to approach them.

I could see a lot of people just attempting to grin and bear all sorts of symptoms. Nobody wants to go near a medical facility.

True. It’s why anyone showing up at A&E these days needs to be taken seriously. They clearly feel strongly that they should be there.

kilkenny31 · 27-03-2020 05:43PM

threeball wrote: »

1000 deaths here would make us worse than Italy pro-rata. I'd be very surprised if that figure is realised.

Yes but 1000 deaths would still make it no worse than a bad flu season here.

iwillyeah1234 · 27-03-2020 05:44PM

hopkins now at 566,000
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

is it just me, or is the case rate accelerating?

Valhallapt · 27-03-2020 05:45PM

iwillyeah1234 wrote: »

hopkins now at 566,000
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

is it just me, or is the case rate accelerating?

Yes It’s exponential

threeball · 27-03-2020 05:45PM

kilkenny31 wrote: »

Yes but 1000 deaths would still make it no worse than a bad flu season here.

True but it would be alot worse without the precautions so you can't compare one with the other. If we implemented the same measures for flu that would probably go down to 100.

GooglePlus · 27-03-2020 05:45PM

iwillyeah1234 wrote: »

hopkins now at 566,000
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

is it just me, or is the case rate accelerating?

It most definitely is, exponentially.

Tacitus Kilgore · 27-03-2020 05:45PM

iwillyeah1234 wrote: »

hopkins now at 566,000
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

is it just me, or is the case rate accelerating?

Absolutely, only way it was ever going to go - exponential growth

OneColdHand · 27-03-2020 05:46PM

This is great. Scientists, engineers and clinicians at the University of Toronto have developed a heat map which allows the public to see, in real time, potential and confirmed cases of COVID-19. Canada only, but presumably could be developed for worldwide use.

https://flatten.ca/

autumnbelle · 27-03-2020 05:46PM

Leo saying he expects the beds to be full in the next few days is grim, do they not have 500 beds? That’s an unreal increase from the 54 stated

iwillyeah1234 · 27-03-2020 05:46PM

GooglePlus wrote: »

It most definitely it, exponentially.

good lord.

yes, i did check Hopkins earlier this afternoon - it was at 537k, and just did a refresh a few minutes ago , to get the new 566k figure.

when did Hopkins breach the 500k mark? wasn't that only yesterday?

is_that_so · 27-03-2020 05:47PM

threeball wrote: »

True but it would be alot worse without the precautions so you can't compare one with the other. If we implemented the same measures for flu that would probably go down to 100.

You'd need a vaccine for that.

threeball · 27-03-2020 05:47PM

iwillyeah1234 wrote: »

hopkins now at 566,000
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

is it just me, or is the case rate accelerating?

You've seen nothing yet. It hasn't even hit the poor nations.

timhenn · 27-03-2020 05:47PM

Mervyn Skidmore wrote: »

Well that's my point. How can you say they've been successful when we're both in the middle or beginning of the crisis?

I didn't say that! A poster made a claim and I showed that his claim was false.

CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

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CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03