CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03

wakka12 · 27-03-2020 03:53PM

voluntary wrote: »

Looking at the UK numbers it appears UK will soon be overtaking Italy and Spain combined.

How?
Uk deaths 189 today
Italy and Spain combined is like 1100-1400 most days

KingBobby · 27-03-2020 03:53PM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Sorry where is the evidence he was infected? And if he was infected he had no business showing up at a hospital. The advice is clear, ring your doctor, wait to be tested and then if you are severe enough you will be brought in, in a controlled manner.

Showing up in an A&E claiming you have covid19 is idiocy.

A child is dead and you are calling him an idiot? If he died within a few hours of septic shock then he obviously needed to be admitted to a hospital urgently rather than waiting at home for any sort of test.

An incredibly heartless and insensitive comment.

walshb · 27-03-2020 03:54PM

Xertz wrote: »

and a billionth would be a massive overestimate of its weight.

A human might weigh say 80kg a coronavirus weighs a zeptogram i.e. 10 to the -21 grams

About a thousand thousand billion trillionth our weight?

igCorcaigh · 27-03-2020 03:54PM

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

I saw an expert predicting that Ireland could peak at 5k/6k. Plus the half assed way some countries with very large populations - ( example the USA and Brazil) are approaching things, is worrying.

USA and Brazil. Be careful who you vote for. I could include UK in that category.

amadangomor · 27-03-2020 03:54PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1243347118082928648?s=20

Great, I've developed asthma from the unknown infection I've had and am short of breath.

It will remain unknown as my test has been cancelled.

Rob A. Bank · 27-03-2020 03:54PM

murpho999 wrote: »

How do you reckon this?

We called off rugby & Patrick's day pretty early.

We closed down schools etc ahead of most Western European countries apart from Italy & Spain

I really believe they're are people out there who just critcise everything that happens in Ireland for the sake of it.

Yeaa we did cancel rugby but allowed Italians from the north of Italy the free run of Dublin.

Without strict temperature controls and interviews at the airports of ALL the arrivals, we have destroyed any chance we had of containing the pandemic.

When this is all over there will be some hard questions to answer about our border defenses or lack of them.

Talisman · 27-03-2020 03:55PM

Boggles wrote: »

It doesn't say in that article they are supplying Ireland.

From what I have read we are trying to get the bulk of ours from China. Which is fúcking bonkers.

A spokesperson for Medtronic in Galway said a few weeks ago that they had reached order capacity for the rest of the year, primarily from China and clients in the USA. There was no mention of an order from the HSE at that time.

Inquitus · 27-03-2020 03:55PM

walshb wrote: »

Had the TDF been postponed yet?

No, they were thinking of running it without crowds in an announcement a couple of days back, that said I think it will be cancelled in due course, running it is crazy.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/mar/26/tour-de-france-could-be-staged-this-summer-without-any-spectators

ACitizenErased · 27-03-2020 03:55PM

stockshares wrote: »

Here's the Report for NPHET.
This report includes data as of 26th March 2020 13:05 for events created on CIDR up to midnight Tuesday, 24th March, 2020

https://1drv.ms/b/s!AgNGJplI2Q3rgYh4GfI1eep9uIkt7Q

61 from Italy, 45 cases imported from Austria and 51 from the UK.

KiKi III · 27-03-2020 03:55PM

timhenn wrote: »

Again, the figures aren't meant to be used for a thesis. I showed you that Ireland doesn't shape up well under any metric. We're high up the list no matter what way you look at it.

No, you didn’t. You showed me that you definitely did pass Maths and don’t understand the stats.

wakka12 · 27-03-2020 03:56PM

What is the breakdown of the England vs Scotland, Wales, NI anyone know?

Mervyn Skidmore · 27-03-2020 03:56PM

timhenn wrote: »

Again, a tiny island with prior warning. We were very slow to react.

Being an island means nothing, look at Great Britain. This virus spreads human to human not over land or water.

murpho999 · 27-03-2020 03:56PM

timhenn wrote: »

Again, a tiny island with prior warning. We were very slow to react.

I suppose you mean flights from italy.

If had done that such an early stage then people (who were mostly Irish) would have got here via another route.

The only effective way would be to shut down all flights from anywhere and also all ferries and close the border.

This would deny Irish people access to their own country.
This as never going to happen.

No other country in Europe did it either.

People still don't realise that our numbers are still low.

tobefrank321 · 27-03-2020 03:56PM

KingBobby wrote: »

A child is dead and you are calling him an idiot? If he died within a few hours of septic shock then he obviously needed to be admitted to a hospital urgently rather than waiting at home for any sort of test.

An incredibly heartless and insensitive comment.

Its a general point about anyone showing up at A&E. Don't do it. The advice is clear.

The poster was trying to make the point that the Americans are a heartless bunch. They are just following best practice.

So it was another swing and a miss at criticising the US.

igCorcaigh · 27-03-2020 03:57PM

amadangomor wrote: »

Great, I've developed asthma from the unknown infection I've had and am short of breath.

It will remain unknown as my test has been cancelled.

Wait for the antibody test.

KiKi III · 27-03-2020 03:58PM

Talisman wrote: »

A spokesperson for Medtronic in Galway said a few weeks ago that they had reached order capacity for the rest of the year, primarily from China and clients in the USA. There was no mention of an order from the HSE at that time.

They have increased capacity since then.

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/business/health-pharma/medtronic-to-double-number-of-staff-making-ventilators-in-ireland-1.4207316%3fmode=amp

Simon Harris said on the news he wouldn’t allow ventilators to be exported if we weren’t adequately supplied. As in, we would do as Germany did and block the export of medical equipment unless we were supplied.

murpho999 · 27-03-2020 03:59PM

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

Yeaa we did cancel rugby but allowed Italians from the north of Italy the free run of Dublin.

Without strict temperature controls and interviews at the airports of ALL the arrivals, we have destroyed any chance we had of containing the pandemic.

When this is all over there will be some hard questions to answer about our border defenses or lack of them.

How many Italians actually came over?

If I remember correctly the first case reported here was an Irish person.

Please stop trying to blame foreigners for this.

Temperature controls at airports would hardly of stopped anyone. Remember the 2 week incubation period.

Really people are going on about ridiculous things here.

Talisman · 27-03-2020 03:59PM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

We produce 50% of the world's respirators, is that correct?

No.

stockshares · 27-03-2020 03:59PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

61 from Italy, 45 cases imported from Austria and 51 from the UK.

9 Clusters in Nursing homes in East of country. 8 clusters in Hospitals throughout country.

460 nursing homes in Ireland.

amadangomor · 27-03-2020 03:59PM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Wait for the antibody test.

Yeh. Hope it comes soon. Hopefully breathing my goes back to normal soon. Can't do simple things for a minute or two without puffing.

caveat emptor · 27-03-2020 03:59PM

Every cloud has a silver lining I guess.

Chinese mask entrepreneur reaps $1.9bn coronavirus bonanza
Company with 40% of China market is one of world’s biggest beneficiaries of surging demand

https://www.ft.com/content/2b70712c-6e3f-11ea-89df-41bea055720b

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 27-03-2020 04:00PM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Sorry where is the evidence he was infected? And if he was infected he had no business showing up at a hospital. The advice is clear, ring your doctor, wait to be tested and then if you are severe enough you will be brought in, in a controlled manner.

Showing up in an A&E claiming you have covid19 is idiocy.

Erm, if he died within hours, he was clearly in a bad way. Sounds like it was an emergency situation. Sometime "showing up" at A&E is what people need to do and they are right to do it. Even in this crisis. Other life-threatening things are still happening to people.

igCorcaigh · 27-03-2020 04:00PM

Talisman wrote: »

No.

I should have provided context.
I read it in a comment on the guardian blog.
Wanted to fact check here.

Rob A. Bank · 27-03-2020 04:02PM

wakka12 wrote: »

How?
Uk deaths 189 today
Italy and Spain combined is like 1100-1400 most days

The UK death rates are yet another example of the manipulation of the statistics for political purposes from them.

Their total case number is also a work of fiction because they tell people to stay at home if not too sick... and they don't test them.

All of the statistics from the UK are suspect.

“Ferguson has already pointed out that numbers will have to be adjusted down to count only EXCESS deaths which means eliminating those deaths which would likely have imminently occurred anyway from other causes, and also the sepsis cases where it is not CV specifically causing the death anymore than it is any other trivial infection which generates the gross immune over-reaction that is the effective cause of death in sepsis cases.“

New Home · 27-03-2020 04:02PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Hot off the press. UK government advised to get more goggles. Decided not to as would cost too much to store.
hindsight is 20 20.

https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/1243558880187166721?s=20

The Spanish doctor in that video was right. The governments ARE responsible for this. They knew it was coming, yet they took a gamble (and still are, the "restrictions" aren't strict enough - we should treat this as if it were a radioactive spill) saying "It probably won't hit us as bad as them, hopefully anyway". It's like looking at a tsunami wave approaching and saying "Ah, we'll be fine, it won't get as far as here, and if it will, well, I'm wearing my swimming togs".

That Spanish doctor spoke of genocide. He's absolutely right.

tobefrank321 · 27-03-2020 04:03PM

murpho999 wrote: »

I suppose you mean flights from italy.

If had done that such an early stage then people (who were mostly Irish) would have got here via another route.

The only effective way would be to shut down all flights from anywhere and also all ferries and close the border.

This would deny Irish people access to their own country.
This as never going to happen.

No other country in Europe did it either.

People still don't realise that our numbers are still low.

You just keep ignoring the hundreds if not thousands of Italians who came here on those flights for tourist visits, for a cancelled rugby match and to flee Italy to stay with friends here. Look back over the posts from the time. Countless people relating stories of Italians crowing around Dublin.

Kermit.de.frog · 27-03-2020 04:03PM

We are all fcuked with this imbecile in charge

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZWdX4GHuuo

wakka12 · 27-03-2020 04:04PM

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

The UK death rates are yet another example of the manipulation of the statistics for political purposes from them.

Their total case number is also a work of fiction because they tell people to stay at home if not too sick... and they don't test them.

All of the statistics from the UK are suspect.

oh, didnt realise UK was calculating deaths this way. Must be what Germany and some of the nordic countries are doing as well.
I suppose it does make sense, but can greatly skew the apparent impact the virus is having worlwdie with different countries reporting differently

KiKi III · 27-03-2020 04:04PM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

You just keep ignoring the hundreds if not thousands of Italians who came here on those flights for tourist visits, for a cancelled rugby match and to flee Italy to stay with friends here. Look back over the posts from the time. Countless people relating stories of Italians crowing around Dublin.

You just keep ignoring that over 50% of new cases are from community transmission. Where is your concern about that?

Mervyn Skidmore · 27-03-2020 04:04PM

New Home wrote: »

The Spanish doctor in that video was right. The governments ARE responsible for this. They knew it was coming, yet they took a gamble (and still are, the "restrictions" aren't strict enough - we should treat this as if it were a radioactive spill) saying "It probably won't hit us as bad as them, hopefully anyway". It's like looking at a tsunami wave approaching and saying "Ah, we'll be fine, it won't get as far as here, and if it will, well, I'm wearing my swimming togs".

That Spanish doctor spoke of genocide. He's absolutely right.

How is it a genocide?

CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

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CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03