CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

Here's the Report for NPHET.
This report includes data as of 26th March 2020 13:05 for events created on CIDR up to midnight Tuesday, 24th March, 2020

https://1drv.ms/b/s!AgNGJplI2Q3rgYh4GfI1eep9uIkt7Q

The table on clusters is on screenshot below. 9 Clusters in Nursing homes in East and 8 clusters in hospitals.

marilynrr wrote: »

I understand it may take years, if they even can make one and I absolutely understand the point for the current lockdown which is to flatten the curve, but we can't sustain a lockdown long term.

Not only will it negatively impact peoples mental health, it will lead to deaths due to that impact on mental health.

We also have to consider if that would be the best for the elderly to remain isolated and cut off from physical contact with their family (just in case they get covid-19) when something else may kill them anyway. There are some elderly people who are saying that there would be worse ways to go and they don't want to be isolated away from everyone. They would rather take their chances.

So while I am in favour of and understand the need for the current lockdown, I do not see it as sustainable, and I don't necessarily think it's the right thing to do either, even for the elderly.

Of course and I accept that. Everyone of us here have parents or elderly relatives and we are trying to do the best we can. From what I can see there are two options - the vaccine won't be here anytime soon so the elderly will have to remain isolated for a while. Hopefully if we maintain a couple months of a very tight lockdown we will see numbers peak and then decline and new infections limited. Then the elderly might be able to slowly move back into society - but of course with restrictions like 2 metre distancing for example until we can be sure covid has been eliminated.
However if we don't do a proper lockdown, then this thing will circulate with high numbers for months and like the ordinary flu remain in the population year round.
So a proper short term lockdown is critical and of course avoid introducing new cases into the system.

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Sorry where is the evidence he was infected? And if he was infected he had no business showing up at a hospital. The advice is clear, ring your doctor, wait to be tested and then if you are severe enough you will be brought in, in a controlled manner.

Showing up in an A&E claiming you have covid19 is idiocy.

A child is dead and you are calling him an idiot? If he died within a few hours of septic shock then he obviously needed to be admitted to a hospital urgently rather than waiting at home for any sort of test.

An incredibly heartless and insensitive comment.

murpho999 wrote: »

How do you reckon this?

We called off rugby & Patrick's day pretty early.

We closed down schools etc ahead of most Western European countries apart from Italy & Spain

I really believe they're are people out there who just critcise everything that happens in Ireland for the sake of it.

Yeaa we did cancel rugby but allowed Italians from the north of Italy the free run of Dublin.

Without strict temperature controls and interviews at the airports of ALL the arrivals, we have destroyed any chance we had of containing the pandemic.

When this is all over there will be some hard questions to answer about our border defenses or lack of them.

walshb wrote: »

Had the TDF been postponed yet?

No, they were thinking of running it without crowds in an announcement a couple of days back, that said I think it will be cancelled in due course, running it is crazy.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/mar/26/tour-de-france-could-be-staged-this-summer-without-any-spectators

timhenn wrote: »

Again, the figures aren't meant to be used for a thesis. I showed you that Ireland doesn't shape up well under any metric. We're high up the list no matter what way you look at it.

No, you didn’t. You showed me that you definitely did pass Maths and don’t understand the stats.

timhenn wrote: »

Again, a tiny island with prior warning. We were very slow to react.

Being an island means nothing, look at Great Britain. This virus spreads human to human not over land or water.

KingBobby wrote: »

A child is dead and you are calling him an idiot? If he died within a few hours of septic shock then he obviously needed to be admitted to a hospital urgently rather than waiting at home for any sort of test.

An incredibly heartless and insensitive comment.

Its a general point about anyone showing up at A&E. Don't do it. The advice is clear.

The poster was trying to make the point that the Americans are a heartless bunch. They are just following best practice.

So it was another swing and a miss at criticising the US.

Talisman wrote: »

A spokesperson for Medtronic in Galway said a few weeks ago that they had reached order capacity for the rest of the year, primarily from China and clients in the USA. There was no mention of an order from the HSE at that time.

They have increased capacity since then.

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/business/health-pharma/medtronic-to-double-number-of-staff-making-ventilators-in-ireland-1.4207316%3fmode=amp

Simon Harris said on the news he wouldn’t allow ventilators to be exported if we weren’t adequately supplied. As in, we would do as Germany did and block the export of medical equipment unless we were supplied.

igCorcaigh wrote: »

We produce 50% of the world's respirators, is that correct?

No.