CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03

Downlinz · 27-03-2020 04:40PM

Xertz wrote: »

I am finding the news reporting on this quite confusing. Boris Johnson has tested positive for COVID-19 and has said he's showing mild symptoms, yet, according to various news reports, is only self-isolating for 7 days.

That seems highly irresponsible, if accurate.

He could infect the entire cabinet office.

Presumably he'll be tested again after 7 days and that duration will be extended unless it's negative?

walshb · 27-03-2020 04:40PM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Where? Here growing but at a slower rate than we predicted.

Everywhere... just generally speaking..

Are we over the worst of it, I wonder?

Xertz · 27-03-2020 04:40PM

Downlinz wrote: »

Presumably he'll be tested again after 7 days and that duration will be extended unless it's negative?

One would hope anyway.
It's still a very poor message to send out to someone who might just do exactly the same while symptomatic, without access to testing.

kingshankly · 27-03-2020 04:41PM

What’s the next level after “pandemic” or is there a next level

igCorcaigh · 27-03-2020 04:41PM

We produce 50% of the world's respirators, is that correct?

Be right back · 27-03-2020 04:41PM

Xertz wrote: »

I am finding the news reporting on this quite confusing. Boris Johnson has tested positive for COVID-19 and has said he's showing mild symptoms, yet, according to various news reports, is only self-isolating for 7 days.

That seems highly irresponsible, if accurate.

He could infect the entire cabinet office.

He might have already done.. Hopefully not.

Looptheloop30 · 27-03-2020 04:41PM

walshb wrote: »

Everywhere... just generally speaking..

Are we over the worst of it, I wonder?

It hasn't started yet

bilston · 27-03-2020 04:41PM

Xertz wrote: »

I am finding the news reporting on this quite confusing. Boris Johnson has tested positive for COVID-19 and has said he's showing mild symptoms, yet, according to various news reports, is only self-isolating for 7 days.

That seems highly irresponsible, if accurate.

He could infect the entire cabinet office.

7 days is the guidance in the UK.

14 days for someone who lives with someone showing symptoms as you account for a 7 day incubation period.

wakka12 · 27-03-2020 04:42PM

walshb wrote: »

Very difficult to comprehend a lot of this....

Is this pandemic growing or abating? By abating, I mean slowing down as regards its impact and infections....

With most of the world indoors I dont see how it could be anything but at least plateauing

igCorcaigh · 27-03-2020 04:42PM

walshb wrote: »

Everywhere... just generally speaking..

Are we over the worst of it, I wonder?

Not a hope. This is only the beginning.

CIARAN_BOYLE · 27-03-2020 04:42PM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

We produce 50% of the world's respirators, is that correct?

We assemble 50% of the world's respirators. Whether we produce them (as in make the parts) I'm not sure but I don't think so.

Tacitus Kilgore · 27-03-2020 04:42PM

kingshankly wrote: »

What’s the next level after “pandemic” or is there a next level

Fucked, is the technical term I believe.

otnomart · 27-03-2020 04:42PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Maybe this got posted already. Apologies if it has. But the new London coronavirus ward is some incredible space. Two 1km long halls

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EOxjJUGIn2I

It is an amazing sight.
I also reading in the Guardian now that there are also backup plans for two more field hospitals in exhibition centres in Birmingham and Manchester.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/26/excel-coronavirus-hospital-will-be-by-far-the-largest-in-the-uk

Italy and France have also been building field hospitals and increasing their capacities in a very short timeframe.
It really goes to show what G7 Countries can do.
Shame that healthcare spend was hit as a result of austerity.

Miccoli · 27-03-2020 04:43PM

paleoperson wrote: »

I'm sorry but if you are too dumb to understand still then I can't help you. Professionals have been explaining in excruciating detail how it's not like the flu and how deadly this is for months, I have explained it over and over and I'm not doing it again. Go and read for yourself.

From what I gathered from the article, he wasn't necessarily saying its just a "flu" and accepted its quite likely 10 to 20 times more deadly. Rather he was questioning the testing methods which he suggested were out of the norm with other respitarory illnesses.

Cork Boy 53 · 27-03-2020 04:43PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Maybe this got posted already. Apologies if it has. But the new London coronavirus ward is some incredible space. Two 1km long halls

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EOxjJUGIn2I

The ExCel Centre in London which normally hosts conferences, sporting events etc. One of the venues used during the London Olympic Games including Katie Taylor`s bouts on the way to her gold medal.

27-03-2020 04:43PM

kingshankly wrote: »

What’s the next level after “pandemic” or is there a next level

Endemic where it becomes permanent in the population like the flu.

dodzy · 27-03-2020 04:44PM

kingshankly wrote: »

What’s the next level after “pandemic” or is there a next level

ELE

caveat emptor · 27-03-2020 04:44PM

Hot off the press. UK government advised to get more goggles. Decided not to as would cost too much to store.
hindsight is 20 20.

https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/1243558880187166721?s=20

voluntary · 27-03-2020 04:45PM

Looking at the UK numbers it appears UK will soon be overtaking Italy and Spain combined.

GooglePlus · 27-03-2020 04:45PM

Muahahaha wrote: »

Its mad to think that the US had their first case of Covid on Jan 22nd and now as of yesterday they've got over 80,000 cases. South Korea had their first case on Jan 21st......

The ability for it to spread is extraordinary.

To think that only 4 months ago, one person became infected from animal crossover and it now has a hold in every country in the world. It's fascinating.

murpho999 · 27-03-2020 04:46PM

timhenn wrote: »

Some reacted slower than others. Unfortunately for us, we were one of the slower ones.

How do you reckon this?

We called off rugby & Patrick's day pretty early.

We closed down schools etc ahead of most Western European countries apart from Italy & Spain

I really believe they're are people out there who just critcise everything that happens in Ireland for the sake of it.

timhenn · 27-03-2020 04:46PM

KiKi III wrote: »

Yes, you’re right. We have not done as well as Singapore. Happy? Can you acknowledge that we’re doing better than our close neighbours in NI and the UK, not to mention across the pond in the US?

We are unlikely to be among the very best countries at dealing with this, but we’ll also be far from the worst.

Catastrophising doesn’t help.

It's not a competition! I don't need any stats to tell me that we haven't dealt with this appropriately. But the stats are there for people who might believe that we have this under control and those in charge are on top of things.

They're not. Don't get complacent, this hasn't been controlled well here and it's still not being dealt with appropriately. This isn't catastrophising, this is telling the truth of the situation and it's far less dangerous than putting spin on the figures to make it seem like we're going well.

gormdubhgorm · 27-03-2020 04:46PM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Not a hope. This is only the beginning.

I saw an expert predicting that Ireland could peak at 5k/6k. Plus the half assed way some countries with very large populations - ( example the USA and Brazil) are approaching things, is worrying.

dodzy · 27-03-2020 04:48PM

GooglePlus wrote: »

The ability for it to spread is extraordinary.

To think that only 4 months ago, one person became infected from animal crossover and it now has a hold in every country in the world. It's fascinating.

Sam Daniels said it best

"You have to admire its simplicity. It's one billionth our size and it's beating us."

KiKi III · 27-03-2020 04:48PM

timhenn wrote: »

It's not a competition! I don't need any stats to tell me that we haven't dealt with this appropriately. But the stats are there for people who might believe that we have this under control and those in charge are on top of things.

They're not. Don't get complacent, this hasn't been controlled well here and it's still not being dealt with appropriately. This isn't catastrophising, this is telling the truth of the situation and it's far less dangerous than putting spin on the figures to make it seem like we're going well.

I’m not suggesting any level of complacency, or that Ireland is on top of it. My entire interaction with you has simply been trying to explain how to look at the data accurately.

timhenn · 27-03-2020 04:49PM

murpho999 wrote: »

How do you reckon this?

We called off rugby & Patrick's day pretty early.

We closed down schools etc ahead of most Western European countries apart from Italy & Spain

I really believe they're are people out there who just critcise everything that happens in Ireland for the sake of it.

Again, a tiny island with prior warning. We were very slow to react.

dougm1970 · 27-03-2020 04:49PM

that nephew of mine....the 16 yr old.....who was very sick last week, but nearly fully recovered now....he got sick 10 days ago and was waiting all last week for a test, was told every day they would try and get to him next day.....dunno if theres any point at all now, is there ?

bit of background....he was extremely sick, couldnt get out of bed to shower for 3 days of it...fever (39.1)...persistent dry cough, headache, sick stomach...his face was so swollen and red...hes very fit, does boxing and football, and never sick, fit as a hare with no weight on him...and its the fact that he has those symptoms on that week...he had to self-isolate until next week, not just to the house, but to his bedroom only.
family are all on isolation...my wife getting their shopping etc and leaving at their gate.

anyway...my question is...is testing him at this stage worthwhile at all ?

our nephew won't be getting tested now they tell him...as since the rules changed for testing however many days ago it was...he doesn't now meet the criteria for testing.....even though he was so sick, he had to have been near another positive case etc.

anyway....upside is he's almost completely better and hoping to get out of his bedroom isolation this weekend.

Achasanai · 27-03-2020 04:49PM

I'm hearing a lot on the news people determining where the UK/New York/Spain are with regards to their 'peak', but I don't hear anybody trying to determine where Ireland is with this. Is this because we're taking a different approach (so any 'peak' will be much further along) or have I just missed it?

murpho999 wrote: »

How do you reckon this?

We called off rugby & Patrick's day pretty early.

We closed down schools etc ahead of most Western European countries apart from Italy & Spain

I really believe they're are people out there who just critcise everything that happens in Ireland for the sake of it.

Also, didn't we close down our schools ahead of even Italy and Spain, relatively speaking compared to where we were with cases? I could be wrong on that one, though.

Professor Moriarty · 27-03-2020 04:50PM

timhenn wrote: »

Again, a tiny island with prior warning. We were very slow to react.

No, no, no.

paleoperson · 27-03-2020 04:50PM

Miccoli wrote: »

From what I gathered from the article, he wasn't necessarily saying its just a "flu" and accepted its quite likely 10 to 20 times more deadly. Rather he was questioning the testing methods which he suggested were out of the norm with other respitarory illnesses.

Ah yes, the nuanced conspiracy theory.

The concession of some things, but with the overwhelming message that it's just a bad cold.

It's like just because someone doesn't go full Alex Jones we have to take them seriously, some joke.

CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

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CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03