CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03

gabeeg · 26-03-2020 11:56PM

Del Griffith wrote: »

They're counting all deaths as attributed, if the person had it when they died. Which is wrong, imo.

What would you do?

Minime2.5 · 26-03-2020 11:56PM

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Mod: Link removed. It's triggering some anti-virus packages.

frillyleaf · 26-03-2020 11:56PM

eagle eye wrote: »

We are so slow at testing you can expect this figure to keep this my for some time yet.
I think we are going to be lucky if the figure of infected people is under 100,000.

Why so bad ? Our death rate is much lower than other countries.

ThePopehimself · 26-03-2020 11:57PM

So there are cases of Covid19 in my mother in law’s nursing home.

The nursing home was locked down on March 6th. That was twenty days ago.
Nobody has been allowed to visit. Nobody.

It has been heartbreaking for us but devastating for my Father in law.

Let us not forget that on March 6th the authorities scolded Nursing Homes Ireland and told them off for acting ‘unilaterally’. I wrote about it back then. But NHI stuck to their guns and did it anyway. They locked down the Nursing homes.

On that very day - March 6th, my other half was unexpectedly refused entry to see his mum. We have not been able to visit since. That was the last day and its been very hard.

So, we got a phonecall about two hours ago.

There are two cases in the Nursing home. Both have been moved to hospital, one is in the ICU.

Today, my OH went to The Nursing home. He phoned first. They propped his mum (granny) up near her window. He waved and took pictures through the window. The care assistant was not wearing a mask or gloves – nothing. NOTHING! I was angry when I saw the pictures.

And just a few hours later we get this call that two residents have tested positive and have been taken to hospital. (…They are ‘Just keeping us updated’. FFS!)

It wouldn’t be so frustrating/confounding /so flippin annoying if I didn’t know the staff – but just F^ck this. Yes the staff are lovely, yes yes yes they are all lovely but bloody Hell.

So either a visitor introduced the virus into the nursing home 20 days ago (bit of a stretch there!) or a member of staff introduced it at some point over the last 7 to 14 days.

Just F^ck that.

And why was the staff member not wearing a mask or gloves?

Is this being replicated nationwide?

So it is in my Mother in Laws Nursing home now. She is not safe. Now what???

Kermit.de.frog · 26-03-2020 11:57PM

splinter65 wrote: »

Have you no interest at all in whats happening here?

Of course, does not mean what's happening abroad is not important tho.

Cupatae · 26-03-2020 11:57PM

Del Griffith wrote: »

They're counting all deaths as attributed, if the person had it when they died. Which is wrong, imo.

I was thinking as much either that or the lethality of the virus was vastly understated

Akrasia · 26-03-2020 11:59PM

frillyleaf wrote: »

I would think paths would be quite contaminated. When you think of busy places and people coughing etc it is possibly that the virus is on them.

I still see some people spitting on paths even now. Gross

Don’t eat off your floor, you will be fine

Now if you have a toddler or infant in the crawling stage, then definitely take off your shoes when you come in from outside and wash your floors frequently

Sean 18 · 26-03-2020 11:59PM

Cupatae wrote: »

I was thinking as much either that or the lethality of the virus was vastly understated

I wonder is it after mutating?

Jin luk · 26-03-2020 11:59PM

ThePopehimself wrote: »

So there are cases of Covid19 in my mother in law’s nursing home.

The nursing home was locked down on March 6th. That was twenty days ago.
Nobody has been allowed to visit. Nobody.

It has been heartbreaking for us but devastating for my Father in law.

Let us not forget that on March 6th the authorities scolded Nursing Homes Ireland and told them off for acting ‘unilaterally’. I wrote about it back then. But NHI stuck to their guns and did it anyway. They locked down the Nursing homes.

On that very day - March 6th, my other half was unexpectedly refused entry to see his mum. We have not been able to visit since. That was the last day and its been very hard.

So, we got a phonecall about two hours ago.

There are two cases in the Nursing home. Both have been moved to hospital, one is in the ICU.

Today, my OH went to The Nursing home. He phoned first. They propped his mum (granny) up near her window. He waved and took pictures through the window. The care assistant was not wearing a mask or gloves – nothing. NOTHING! I was angry when I saw the pictures.

And just a few hours later we get this call that two residents have tested positive and have been taken to hospital. (…They are ‘Just keeping us updated’. FFS!)

It wouldn’t be so frustrating/confounding /so flippin annoying if I didn’t know the staff – but just F^ck this. Yes the staff are lovely, yes yes yes they are all lovely but bloody Hell.

So either a visitor introduced the virus into the nursing home 20 days ago (bit of a stretch there!) or a member of staff introduced it at some point over the last 7 to 14 days.

Just F^ck that.

And why was the staff member not wearing a mask or gloves?

Is this being replicated nationwide?

So it is in my Mother in Laws Nursing home now. She is not safe. Now what???

If u dont mind me asking were is the nursing home? Even a county

fritzelly · 26-03-2020 11:59PM

Del Griffith wrote: »

They're counting all deaths as attributed, if the person had it when they died. Which is wrong, imo.

In which case we have had no one who has died from coronavirus - hoorah we have this beat

Harry Palmr · 27-03-2020 12:00AM

FVP3 wrote: »

So go for a run on your own and don't lick the railings?

The virus is reported to exist on surfaces longer than most, but UV will kill it, and we get 12 hours of sunlight now.

Is this your business by any chance?

https://twitter.com/ConorGallaghe_r/status/1243247881177399297

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/tanning-salon-that-suggested-uv-light-can-cure-coronavirus-closed-by-garda%C3%AD-1.4213191?mode=amp&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

gabeeg · 27-03-2020 12:00AM

ThePopehimself wrote: »

So there are cases of Covid19 in my mother in law’s nursing home.

The nursing home was locked down on March 6th. That was twenty days ago.
Nobody has been allowed to visit. Nobody.

It has been heartbreaking for us but devastating for my Father in law.

Let us not forget that on March 6th the authorities scolded Nursing Homes Ireland and told them off for acting ‘unilaterally’. I wrote about it back then. But NHI stuck to their guns and did it anyway. They locked down the Nursing homes.

On that very day - March 6th, my other half was unexpectedly refused entry to see his mum. We have not been able to visit since. That was the last day and its been very hard.

So, we got a phonecall about two hours ago.

There are two cases in the Nursing home. Both have been moved to hospital, one is in the ICU.

Today, my OH went to The Nursing home. He phoned first. They propped his mum (granny) up near her window. He waved and took pictures through the window. The care assistant was not wearing a mask or gloves – nothing. NOTHING! I was angry when I saw the pictures.

And just a few hours later we get this call that two residents have tested positive and have been taken to hospital. (…They are ‘Just keeping us updated’. FFS!)

It wouldn’t be so frustrating/confounding /so flippin annoying if I didn’t know the staff – but just F^ck this. Yes the staff are lovely, yes yes yes they are all lovely but bloody Hell.

So either a visitor introduced the virus into the nursing home 20 days ago (bit of a stretch there!) or a member of staff introduced it at some point over the last 7 to 14 days.

Just F^ck that.

And why was the staff member not wearing a mask or gloves?

Is this being replicated nationwide?

So it is in my Mother in Laws Nursing home now. She is not safe. Now what???

Jesus. Sorry. Is taking her home anywhere approaching possible?

JP Liz V1 · 27-03-2020 12:00AM

I am worried about how many have it but cannot get tested as no symptoms or very mild symptoms if someone has no symptoms yet so not self isolating and are out and about maybe even still working they could be spreading unknownly

FVP3 · 27-03-2020 12:01AM

frillyleaf wrote: »

I would think paths would be quite contaminated. When you think of busy places and people coughing etc it is possibly that the virus is on them.

I still see some people spitting on paths even now. Gross

ok so that might affect someone's shoes. So, go for a run and disinfect your shoes.

The essential shopping I have to do tomorrow ( online orders booked out for weeks now) is far more dangerous than going for a run. Even then it isnt that dangerous, as I just need to wash my hands after.

Cupatae · 27-03-2020 12:01AM

Sean 18 wrote: »

I wonder is it after mutating?

I read somewhere it has mutated quiet Abit I think there is 8 different strains of it, I'm not a ðŸ’¯ how true that is though, it d certainly make a vaccine difficult to get tho if it is

Nijmegen · 27-03-2020 12:02AM

It’s getting a lot more real on ICU and deaths but the headline rate of growth is down around or maybe even going below 20%. It feels like we are perhaps flattening the curve.

Del Griffith · 27-03-2020 12:02AM

gabeeg wrote: »

What would you do?

Obviously they should try to distinguish excess mortality due to covid19, from mortality

Cupatae · 27-03-2020 12:03AM

fritzelly wrote: »

In which case we have had no one who has died from coronavirus - hoorah we have this beat

Itd be interesting to know the figures of healthy people with no underlying conditions that have died from it.

bekker · 27-03-2020 12:03AM

Beasty wrote: »

If any of the employees are exposed to this in a work environment and the employer is not following Government/HSE guidelines the employer may leave themselves exposed to legal action. Although their insurers may end up dealing with any claim, a business could be completely destroyed if they get one adverse legal action/claim on something like this

Unfortunately, you're presuming that mindset is capable of evaluating future consequences that are not currently hitting them over the head with a large hammer.

irishgeo · 27-03-2020 12:03AM

Cupatae wrote: »

I was thinking as much either that or the lethality of the virus was vastly understated

its vastly overstated as possibly hundreds of thousands of people have had it recovered and they haven't been counted at all yet.

GT89 · 27-03-2020 12:04AM

I thought the PPE was only supposed to be for healthcare workers. If that's still the case why are companies providing their staff with masks and gloves are they using their own initiative or going with official HSE advice.

Cupatae · 27-03-2020 12:05AM

GT89 wrote: »

I thought the PPE was only supposed to be for healthcare workers. If that's still the case why are companies providing their staff with masks and gloves are they using their own initiative or going with official HSE advice.

Trying to do there best I'd imagine

Del Griffith · 27-03-2020 12:06AM

Cupatae wrote: »

Itd be interesting to know the figures of healthy people with no underlying conditions that have died from it.

It's pretty low when you consider all that have it or had it and go undiagnosed, talking 0.01% possibly [url]
https://www.wsj.com/articles/is-the-coronavirus-as-deadly-as-they-say-11585088464?redirect=amp#click=https://t.co/jN6DOBh5hf[/url]

BanditLuke · 27-03-2020 12:06AM

ThePopehimself wrote: »

So there are cases of Covid19 in my mother in law’s nursing home.

The nursing home was locked down on March 6th. That was twenty days ago.
Nobody has been allowed to visit. Nobody.

It has been heartbreaking for us but devastating for my Father in law.

Let us not forget that on March 6th the authorities scolded Nursing Homes Ireland and told them off for acting ‘unilaterally’. I wrote about it back then. But NHI stuck to their guns and did it anyway. They locked down the Nursing homes.

On that very day - March 6th, my other half was unexpectedly refused entry to see his mum. We have not been able to visit since. That was the last day and its been very hard.

So, we got a phonecall about two hours ago.

There are two cases in the Nursing home. Both have been moved to hospital, one is in the ICU.

Today, my OH went to The Nursing home. He phoned first. They propped his mum (granny) up near her window. He waved and took pictures through the window. The care assistant was not wearing a mask or gloves – nothing. NOTHING! I was angry when I saw the pictures.

And just a few hours later we get this call that two residents have tested positive and have been taken to hospital. (…They are ‘Just keeping us updated’. FFS!)

It wouldn’t be so frustrating/confounding /so flippin annoying if I didn’t know the staff – but just F^ck this. Yes the staff are lovely, yes yes yes they are all lovely but bloody Hell.

So either a visitor introduced the virus into the nursing home 20 days ago (bit of a stretch there!) or a member of staff introduced it at some point over the last 7 to 14 days.

Just F^ck that.

And why was the staff member not wearing a mask or gloves?

Is this being replicated nationwide?

So it is in my Mother in Laws Nursing home now. She is not safe. Now what???

Sorry for your anguish but the staff are risking their lives for what is usually peanuts and the majority haven't even been given face masks never mind full PPE.

If you have anger it should be directed at our government who despite having since mid January to prepare for this still don't have enough PPE gear for frontline health workers never mind care home staff.

Unfortunately the nursing homes are going to have massive problems in the next few weeks as many members of staff go out sick either genuinely or because well like i said they are paid peanuts and it's not worth the risk without the proper protection.

bekker · 27-03-2020 12:06AM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

I am worried about how many have it but cannot get tested as no symptoms or very mild symptoms if someone has no symptoms yet so not self isolating and are out and about maybe even still working they could be spreading unknownly

Most are.

Up to at least 40% (some studies say up to 80%) of those infected are not sufficiently impacted to consider themselves affected,

martingriff · 27-03-2020 12:06AM

FVP3 wrote: »

49% in a recent YouGov poll. Thats pretty good for late in the first term. Better than most of his time in office.

I suppose its more of a patriotic rallying behind the president.

It is very good I give you that if things go south may not see it. I agree with your second paragraph though. The conspiracy theorist in me (which does not come out 2 often) wonder will he try to delay the election for a unspecified period of time due to an emergency if it does go against him

Ulysses Gaze · 27-03-2020 12:06AM

bekker wrote: »

Unfortunately, you're presuming that mindset is capable of evaluating future consequences that are not currently hitting them over the head with a large hammer.

Unfortunately, you have a hell of a lot of thermos-heads managing people who should not be doing that in the first place.

Maybe they are good at Ops. Maybe at one aspect of a business. But managing people? Not so much.

Jinglejangle69 · 27-03-2020 12:07AM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

I am worried about how many have it but cannot get tested as no symptoms or very mild symptoms if someone has no symptoms yet so not self isolating and are out and about maybe even still working they could be spreading unknownly

Message is clear.

Stay at home.

Jinglejangle69 · 27-03-2020 12:07AM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

I am worried about how many have it but cannot get tested as no symptoms or very mild symptoms if someone has no symptoms yet so not self isolating and are out and about maybe even still working they could be spreading unknownly

Message is clear.

Stay at home.

JP Liz V1 · 27-03-2020 12:07AM

Nijmegen wrote: »

It’s getting a lot more real on ICU and deaths but the headline rate of growth is down around or maybe even going below 20%. It feels like we are perhaps flattening the curve.

It is low because we are not testing enough?

CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

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CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03