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CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,883 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    How many healthcare got infected from travel, was any Italian or other nationalities back working in Irish care homes, work experience? I was sure visiting to care homes and hospitals was stopped from March beginning

    We really should have stopped travel in and to China and Italy from January, too late now

    RIP :(

    No wonder the news earlier today was talking about mortuaries

    Impossible to do that unless all the other countries do it. They will the next time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,569 ✭✭✭mugsymugsy


    If people can keep away from old ones, get health care workers tested asap and everyone else stay the fock indoors/social distancing.

    Hopefully we can limit this!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,094 ✭✭✭Technophobe


    Take their dole and social house off them and make an example these people once and for all.
    If only...

    Would be a great and morally good move..wont happen tho.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,783 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    I say if possible time to test everyone

    That's just impossible.

    No country can do that, apart from maybe The Vatican.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    How many healthcare got infected from travel, was any Italian or other nationalities back working in Irish care homes, work experience? I was sure visiting to care homes and hospitals was stopped from March beginning

    We really should have stopped travel in and to China and Italy from January, too late now

    RIP :(

    No wonder the news earlier today was talking about mortuaries

    Details are here
    https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/0cbb04-statement-from-the-national-public-health-emergency-team-thursday-26/


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 204 ✭✭Sean 18


    irishgeo wrote: »
    they are irish citizens, what were we going to do with them?

    Well they should have done something it was crazy going on ski holidays when their was a pandemic on anyway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,569 ✭✭✭✭walshb



    Thanks. Missed it. What was the interrogation buzz?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,086 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    irishgeo wrote: »
    they are irish citizens, what were we going to do with them?

    Try to protect the irish citizens who didnt go on holiday during a fcuking pandemic?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,494 ✭✭✭Columbia


    Yurt! wrote: »
    Among your Chinese peers / co-workers / friends, do they acknowledge the numbers of dead are much higher than the official figures or do they keep quiet?

    No, there is open recognition that the true toll is beyond comprehension, but the official figures exist to avoid mass panic/panic buying and the like (though there was a bit of that in late January).


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    Sean 18 wrote: »
    They should be asking why didn't the HSE do more when they were letting all the skiers coming back into the country when it was starting to run rampant in Italy

    What's that going to solve right now? Ffs


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Musefan


    I’ve a parent in a nursing home. It’s awful. I can understand why they can’t say locations, but it would be so reassuring to know it’s not our area.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,293 ✭✭✭billybonkers


    boardise wrote: »
    Sorry Billy boy -I won't be shutting up for you or for anybody .
    This is an open forum for the free expression of opinions.
    I give my views in a careful and controlled way without resorting to any form of
    verbal abuse .
    You'd be doing well to adopt some moderation yourself in this regard.

    What is careful or controlled about criticising the HSE for not holding their briefing when suits you? You realise how busy they are?


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,458 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Thats whats needed. But we cant do it.

    And if 80% show relatively minor symptoms it reaches a stage where further testing does not achieve much. It's probably more a case of identifying those cases in the at risk groups who could deteriorate very rapidly without the right treatment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,194 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    8 clusters in nursing homes is unacceptable. People should have been more careful. That's the one thing you cannot let happen.

    If visiting restricted then had to come from the workers, contact tracing surely will tell


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,622 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    When are we expecting to see results of physical distancing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,609 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    froog wrote: »
    looks pretty empty to me

    10 more people dead. Its not empty enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,569 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Irish reporter Michael Lehane says “travellers” can’t be evicted, in relation to the emergency bill. Did he mean to say renters?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,086 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    How many healthcare got infected from travel, was any Italian or other nationalities back working in Irish care homes, work experience? I was sure visiting to care homes and hospitals was stopped from March beginning

    We really should have stopped travel in and to China and Italy from January, too late now

    RIP :(

    No wonder the news earlier today was talking about mortuaries

    When Tony whinged saying nursing homes shouldn't have closed when they did showed up the stupidity of the HSE at the start. The start was the chance to prevent some of this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,018 ✭✭✭kingshankly


    17 year old died in America


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,321 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    8 clusters in nursing homes is unacceptable. People should have been more careful. That's the one thing you cannot let happen.
    I hear you A, but I can see why it's very difficult to keep a handle on nursing home and respite centre infections. It's a large group of vulnerable, elderly, often chronically ill people with lowered immunity mingling together and with off premises staff, who by the nature of things usually have to be very hands on with many of the folks living there. Washing, dressing, toiletries, feeding, administering meds etc. Triple all of that in folks with dementia. If something gets in and it can so easily do so, it's bloody hard to control. I find it hard to think of a worse environment for contagious disease to take hold and hard to stop spreading. :(

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 595 ✭✭✭rdwight


    irishgeo wrote: »
    they are irish citizens, what were we going to do with them?

    Put them in quarantine


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 389 ✭✭Jin luk


    Ace2007 wrote: »
    that's been the problem, too many people like you have not taken in serious over the last 10+ days...


    and now we are seeing innocent people paying the price

    Way too many people was, now they will hopefully start to understand how serious this is and wise up


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Raconteuse


    boardise wrote: »
    I'don't make a particularly big deal about it but while choosing different times is one thing -announcing times and not sticking to them is another .
    I mean -how hard can it be .?
    Evidently very. They shouldn't say the announcement will be at a particular time but the delay is obviously because they are up the walls. Working in communications - headless chicken time when there's a crisis.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    Ace2007 wrote: »
    that's been the problem, too many people like you have not taken in serious over the last 10+ days...


    and now we are seeing innocent people paying the price

    No no. Iv been sanitising throughout the day. Regularly changing disposable gloves and keeping away from others. Iv been doing the right thing. I'm worried about the ability of the HSE to cope. There are some stark warnings starting to appear.

    Don't misunderstand my comment. Iv definitely been doing my bit from the start


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    kowloon wrote: »
    It's a little fcuked up how many people keep popping up to push new arguments for throwing granny under the bus. We get it, you like money, don't think you're personally in danger, and don't give a **** about other people. The pro-life, anti-euthanasia conservatives in the states are particularly egregious with their 'the elderly would rather die than see the young suffer an economic collapse. BS.

    Its not just throwing granny under the bus, it's other people too - our parents, people with underlying conditions and there would be a lot of young people in this bracket too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,334 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


    Sean 18 wrote: »
    They should be asking why didn't the HSE do more when they were letting all the skiers coming back into the country when it was starting to run rampant in Italy

    I personally think this is meaningless now. Ultimately this virus has spread worldwide, there are no countries unaffected. Look at the U.K. right beside us, there seems to be an awful lot of cases - diagnosed and undiagnosed. It is unprecedented, Ireland and western countries rely on air travel and ports to keep the supply chain going. They’re trying their best to slow the spread down & buy time, without society breaking down in the meantime. It’s very challenging, and I applaud the efforts of the people in charge.
    I just hope they stay honest & keep the public informed.


  • Posts: 13,688 ✭✭✭✭ Linda Squeaking Strikeout


    dougm1970 wrote: »
    usa have now got the most reported cases in the world....more than china.

    They are well and truly in the hal'penny place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,038 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    growleaves wrote: »
    There's already huge social pressure and official guidance to stay home as much as possible. Whether you want to call it a "campaign" or not.

    But normal interaction between human beings can't be stigmatised indefinitely.

    Interaction between human beings is not being stigmatised.

    The normal reaction of humans is to avoid danger that cannot be fought.

    Think "fight or flight".


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,783 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Try to protect the irish citizens who didnt go on holiday during a fcuking pandemic?

    Maybe it wasn't a pandemic when they left and there was no travel advice against going.

    Either way you can't deny our citizens access to their own country.


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