Mini Cooper SE (EV)

liamog · 10-03-2020 03:53PM

Yeah, I was given the same info, for whatever reason the Mini EV only comes with regular cruise control.

liamog · 26-03-2020 11:18AM

Bit of a mad video, Cooper S vs the Cooper SE around a go-kart track.

The SE was 1.75s faster

unkel · 26-03-2020 12:18PM

There you have it. Significantly faster round a track than the MINI Cooper S (turbo petrol). Even though it has less power, even less torque (!!!) and on paper has a slower 0-100km/h acceleration.

Typical for an EV. They are much faster than the figures on paper would suggest. The old comparisons should go onto the same scrap heap of history that the ICE cars themselves are going on to

liamog · 18-05-2020 12:46PM

TFL Car have been doing some testing of the Cooper SE vs a 2010 Cooper JCW
They seems to be having some decent fun with the Cooper SE.

unkel · 18-05-2020 06:24PM

For anyone not watching, the MINI SE (electric), though on paper quite a bit slower, is in fact quicker both in a sprint and round a track compared to a MINI John Cooper Works!

liamog · 18-05-2020 06:33PM

unkel wrote: »

For anyone not watching, the MINI SE (electric), though on paper quite a bit slower, is in fact quicker both in a sprint and round a track compared to a MINI John Cooper Works!

I'd say the Mini GP could probably take it, and I'm sure if you compared a 2020 John Cooper Works against the Cooper SE they'd probably be very similar. I just tried to spec one up, to get a similar level to Cooper SE Level 2 at €32,000 has a list price of around €45,000

Ionised · 18-05-2020 07:32PM

I just hope they can deliver mine before the end of August. There have been very few negative reviews that I have seen, range whinges excluded

liamog · 18-05-2020 07:58PM

I sent my dealer an email today, I just want to get an idea of how long extra we'll be waiting. The longer I wait the more likely I jump up to the L3 for the worlds most expensive sunroof!

Ionised · 19-05-2020 12:32AM

It's the Level 3 I'm waiting on. Trying to go easy with the front tyres on my Cupra as they are getting close to the wear limit. I'd prefer not to have to buy new tyres for a couple of months use.

liamog · 09-06-2020 12:45PM

I caved in and have upgraded my order to the level 3, the delays have put me in a better financial position.

I've ordered the British Racing Green with the Roulette spokes. I'm also going to put some white bonnet stripes on it. Dealer is currently indicating a September delivery.

Ionised · 09-06-2020 01:30PM

I've ordered moonstone grey, black wheels, mirrors and roof. Also deleted the yellow grill section. Current info from dealer is still August.
May I ask which dealer you ordered through? I'm going with Joe Duffy Finglas

liamog · 09-06-2020 01:35PM

I went through Frank Keane on the Naas Rd, the sales guy has been really responsive through the shutdown.
You don't get a choice of the yellow on the BRG, not that I'm complaining!

Ionised · 09-06-2020 01:37PM

The guy in Joe Duffy always answers emails which is a rare enough thing these days. Fingers crossed for August this end.

Odd to think I'm currently in my last ever petrol vehicle after nearly 40 years of driving.

unkel · 09-06-2020 02:12PM

Frank Keane BMW, Naas Road is a top class dealer. Always has been. Total professional outfit. Treat you with respect whether you're picking up a €3 bolt or a €160,000 7-series

ELM327 · 09-06-2020 02:26PM

unkel wrote: »

Frank Keane BMW, Naas Road is a top class dealer. Always has been. Total professional outfit. Treat you with respect whether you're picking up a €3 bolt or a €160,000 7-series

Agree. I used to live quite near there and popped up on a saturday when to nosey about. Obvious tire kickers but they still came over and tried the sales pitches etc .

R.O.R · 19-06-2020 03:53PM

Had to collect a car from Airport Long term parking (customer stranded in foreign climes) and my BMW contact said he'd help out as they are close, so took a MINI EV for the Job.

Only the 2nd EV I've driven, and the first on a public road, but it's an absolute hoot to drive. Left a much more expensive car in it's wake on the way back

Apart from the much better, instant acceleration, it didn't feel any different to drive than a standard MINI Auto. Didn't notice the extra weight, so handling was the normal, excellent MINI standard. What did surprise me was the lack of wheelspin - roads are pretty wet out so I was expecting it to struggle to get grip, but I only managed to the the yellow light flashing under serious provocation.

About 2,000km on the one I drove so far. Had to unplug before we set off and I'm sure it was fully charged, but range was only showing 86km (with A/C on and regenerative braking set to low) and dipped as low as 60km on the way back. As it's mainly used for test drives, and probably driven pretty hard most of the time, that sort of range wouldn't be the norm.

Will try to grab one for an overnight to see how it deals with a motorway commute and how that affects the range, but I've still got a huge smile on my face after that.

unkel · 19-06-2020 05:16PM

And it's basically a 2013 BMW i3, with FWD. Imagine what BMW could have been like if they had marched ahead with their EV program? An EV 3-series with the same setup in about 2016 from around €35-37k on the road after subsidies. More models and longer range versions in the years after. They would have been well setup by now to dominate the EV market. Instead they appointed Krüger as CEO in 2014, who promptly pretty much shut down the program :mad:

liamog · 19-06-2020 06:15PM

unkel wrote: »

And it's basically a 2013 BMW i3, with FWD. Imagine what BMW could have been like if they had marched ahead with their EV program? An EV 3-series with the same setup in about 2016 from around €35-37k on the road after subsidies. More models and longer range versions in the years after. They would have been well setup by now to dominate the EV market. Instead they appointed Krüger as CEO in 2014, who promptly pretty much shut down the program :mad:

I think it was Deiss who was behind the BMW I programmes, they lost him to VW where he kicked off the MEB platform and the ID programme. If he had been supported BMW I reckon Tesla would of had serious performance competition against an EV 3 series, instead we only have BMW's big PHEV push which will cover them on short term emissions.

unkel · 19-06-2020 07:29PM

Books will be written and films will be made about this stuff.

liamog · 26-06-2020 07:12PM

Good review of the Mini on Harrys Garage. Especially if you are looking for a non EV kind of review.

quokula · 27-06-2020 08:46PM

Was it just me or was he basing his price comparison on the top level electric with all the additional equipment compared to the basic entry level petrol version? Most people on here seem to agree it's actually very competitively priced when you compare like for like.

unkel · 27-06-2020 09:39PM

Yeah noticed that too. He was all over the shop. I guess his strength is not in comparing costs of cars

liamog · 28-06-2020 01:32AM

He was indeed, Mini's have always been expensive when you add all of the toys.

A Cooper S starts at €29,428 with no options versus the SE at €27,764.

ainsyjnr · 09-07-2020 08:37PM

Took a level 2 out on a 24 hour test drive yesterday. I drove for pretty much 2 and 3/4 hours and covered 110 miles, 40% 100km/h, 40% 80km/h with the rest 50/60km/h. Got home with 15% left. I wasn’t taking it too easy but not hammering either. That’s my commute normally and although the car is great I am going to give it a miss for those purposes as I just need something a bit smoother over the bumps; but as a second car when we replace the Ionia phev, absolutely. I even went to Tesco’s, had two young children in the back without a bother in this small car.

Coming from the leaf tekna with the Bose system the stock upgraded stereo is not too bad, good bass but the mids were a little thin at times. Nothing a better set of door speakers wouldn’t fix. I imagine the Harmon kardon is better than the Bose.

Many won’t go for it because of the range but as an electric car it is excellent, no compromise on the driving for being electric and quality build also, I’ll definitely consider it in the future.

Ionised · 25-07-2020 09:42AM

Finally some good news on my order. My level 3 is due to be delivered 16th September.
There is going to be a two week gap but the dealer has offered to loan me a car for that period. They are basically going to buy my car into stock so they will pay off my PCP before its due on 28th August.

Ordered 22nd January so might be some kind of record for a non tesla ev

KCross · 25-07-2020 10:07AM

Ionised wrote: »

Finally some good news on my order. My level 3 is due to be delivered 16th September.
There is going to be a two week gap but the dealer has offered to loan me a car for that period. They are basically going to buy my car into stock so they will pay off my PCP before its due on 28th August.

Ordered 22nd January so might be some kind of record for a non tesla ev

Did the dealer say anything about the vat reduction and whether they would pass it to you?

Ionised · 25-07-2020 10:30AM

KCross wrote:

Did the dealer say anything about the vat reduction and whether they would pass it to you?

We haven't had the final conversation on cost just yet but it will feature in it for sure.

unkel · 25-07-2020 10:57AM

You should get the VAT reduction as the delivery is not until September.

KCross · 25-07-2020 11:29AM

unkel wrote: »

You should get the VAT reduction as the delivery is not until September.

Should is the appropriate word there. If you haven’t signed a contract they can take the vat reduction as increased margin. It would look bad but the dealers are in for a tough year or two so they could go either way.

Ionised · 25-07-2020 12:08PM

I'm more keen to get the charger grant application going so I can get that sorted in good time.
As far as final deal figures go I'm sure there will be some changes from the original quote back in January!

Mini Cooper SE (EV)

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