CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP

ILoveYourVibes · 26-03-2020 02:32AM

caveat emptor wrote: »

I apologise. You are allowed to call me a liar but my definition of a fvckwit is someone who ignores evidence. This is an emotional time. Especially when my direct family are risking their lives to treat people without adequate PPE.

You assume they work in a hospital. I never said this.

I don't care what's happening elsewhere right now

I care what's happening here.

Nobody cared about Congo when ebola was going on. Why the sudden urge to compare and contrast with other sh!te responses.

If the whole world gets it ...we can't get rid of it.

We're a small island i don't want to be competing with the uk the uk italy for medical supplies.

If the us goes ...if the uk goes ..we go

bekker · 26-03-2020 02:33AM

flynnlives wrote: »

"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth."
Mike Tyson

We are good at writing plans in Ireland.

This is what I was responding to,

Originally Posted by flynnlives View Post
Im saying our country has little or no experience of mass casualty events

But we supposedly do have the structures in place to foresee such contingencies, yet we apparently walked into it blind.

There were no joined-up contingency plans in place despite the widespread coverage of the modelling in Nov.2019 of a the consequences of a major epidemic spreading across the world (Gates Foundation et al).

Once COVID-19 hit France contagion was inevitable, and we were very unprepared.

flynnlives · 26-03-2020 02:33AM

people did care about Ebola. Arguably more scared of it then swine flu.
Anyways Ebola has a short incubation period and is not as infectious as corona virus. It was unlikely to ever become a pandemic.

An Ri rua · 26-03-2020 02:34AM

humberklog wrote: »

Don't know the figures (or have any first hand experience of) for Iran in hand washing. There's some on Europe.

Things should be fine in the US if the President is a good indicator of his mandate. He's big, tremendously big, into washing his hands of things.
Like pandemics.

flynnlives · 26-03-2020 02:35AM

codie wrote: »

https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2020/03/24/21-million-chinese-cellphone-users-disappear-in-three-months-of-pandemic/
Might be posted already .
This is totally nuts, hard to believe.
But it's also hard to believe the amount of deaths reported by Chinese gov.

Yes! its hard to believe someone thinks Breitbart is a credible news source.

MrMusician18 · 26-03-2020 02:35AM

freshpopcorn wrote: »

What's the deal with Paddy Cosgrove and his obsession with the Coronaviris on Twitter?

There's something in my head about him being a bit moody about his web summit a few years ago.

What's his deal? He's a bollocks.

That's all you need to know.

flynnlives · 26-03-2020 02:37AM

bekker wrote: »

This is what I was responding to,

Originally Posted by flynnlives View Post
Im saying our country has little or no experience of mass casualty events

But we supposedly do have the structures in place to foresee such contingencies, yet we apparently walked into it blind.

There were no joined-up contingency plans in place despite the widespread coverage of the modelling in Nov.2019 of a the consequences of a major epidemic spreading across the world (Gates Foundation et al).

Once COVID-19 hit France contagion was inevitable, and we were very unprepared.

We acted.

Other countries dithered.

is there lessons to be learnt. Of course. We messed up expanding the testing to early but weve corrected that.

40k people wanted a test. Its statically impossible based on our numbers for many of those people to be infected. Again i point the finger here at trigger happy GP's.

An Ri rua · 26-03-2020 02:37AM

bekker wrote: »

This is what I was responding to,

Originally Posted by flynnlives View Post
Im saying our country has little or no experience of mass casualty events

But we supposedly do have the structures in place to foresee such contingencies, yet we apparently walked into it blind.

There were no joined-up contingency plans in place despite the widespread coverage of the modelling in Nov.2019 of a the consequences of a major epidemic spreading across the world (Gates Foundation et al).

Once COVID-19 hit France contagion was inevitable, and we were very unprepared.

We've had 16 years to prepare. Since SARS. And multiple tremors since. This is what government is about. Planning & structures.

snoopboggybog · 26-03-2020 02:37AM

The healthcare system reminds of the series Chernobyl now.

Feck it actually think i'll rewatch it!

ILoveYourVibes · 26-03-2020 02:38AM

StupidLikeAFox wrote: »

Just looked the twitter thread there. His main gripe seems to be that the authorities announced that they had sufficient PPE last Friday

It was a lie but its the kind of lie i expect to be told if you know what i mean.

I am kind of surprised they are not make shifting protective wear.

Also Harris said he hopes people won't pay attention to daily cases of figures just cases in hospital...madness since they are connected...and we can only control or hope to control the no of cases no the no of cases that need hospitalization.

The whole idea is we are meant to try and control the no of cases. The no of cases that need medical care we can no control over. So why wouldn't you pay attention to the daily no of cases?

26-03-2020 02:38AM

all.the hallmarks of having had a wonderful mother that told him every day he was the specialest ittle boy

an utterly tone deaf, self regarding useless twat. mouth ten steps ahead of brain and his mouth aint that quick.

New Home · 26-03-2020 02:38AM

An Ri rua wrote: »

I wonder will Irish hospital staff continue their proud tradition of wearing their uniforms outside of work? And GPs wearing ties? For virus spreading reasons, medical uniforms should always remain at work. Blindingly obvious but going on here for years.

I used to live on one of the bus routes to Beaumont Hospital. The number of healthworkers wearing their uniforms on the busses was staggering. I could never figure out how it was allowed in the first place. Thinking about the amount of crap they'd bring in the hospital after sitting on those bus seats (and out of the hospitals at the end of their shifts) makes my blood curdle.

caveat emptor · 26-03-2020 02:38AM

flynnlives wrote: »

people did care about Ebola. Arguably more scared of it then swine flu.
Anyways Ebola has a short incubation period and is not as infectious as corona virus. It was unlikely to ever become a pandemic.

what's your point.

codie · 26-03-2020 02:38AM

flynnlives wrote: »

Yes! its hard to believe someone thinks Breitbart is a credible news source.

Said it was nuts, didn't say it I thought it was credible

fritzelly · 26-03-2020 02:40AM

STB. wrote: »

Quite the contrary, I am just more educated than you on this subject.

Here's your link you could have googled all the same.

https://nypost.com/2020/03/24/iceland-scientists-found-40-mutations-of-the-coronavirus-report-says/

Talking about mutations is pointless, this has been known for a while, means nothing right now - NY Post is on Daily Mail levels of reporting

fritzelly · 26-03-2020 02:41AM

codie wrote: »

https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2020/03/24/21-million-chinese-cellphone-users-disappear-in-three-months-of-pandemic/
Might be posted already .
This is totally nuts, hard to believe.
But it's also hard to believe the amount of deaths reported by Chinese gov.

21 Million Chinese Cellphone Users Disappear in Three Months of Pandemic

Have they found them yet?

ILoveYourVibes · 26-03-2020 02:42AM

StupidLikeAFox wrote: »

Not sure how he has such a high profile considering he is basically an event organiser (albeit a very successful one)

Very high profile. He made a deal worth 110 million with the Portuguese govt for his web sumit comp to stay in Lisbon.

https://www.independent.ie/business/technology/web-summit/paddy-cosgraves-web-summit-secures-new-110m-deal-to-stay-in-lisbon-for-ten-years-37380098.html

flynnlives · 26-03-2020 02:42AM

An Ri rua wrote: »

We've had 16 years to prepare. Since SARS. And multiple tremors since. This is what government is about. Planning & structures.

We have no clinical experience of SARS.

All the plans in the world are great but unless you have direct experience of such diseases its hard to react to them in a clinical setting particularly when you are still in flu season.

Korea and Taiwan and Singapore have direct experience of SARS. They learnt there lessons.
We were able to quickly adapt.

Regardless or healthcare infection numbers will drop a lot over the next week or so.

jetsonx · 26-03-2020 02:45AM

His whole business model is based on bringing people together. Like millions of other businesses, this virus has the potential to impact his operations severely.

Like him or loathe him, a healthy society needs people like him who question the status quo. It helps keep people in positions of power in check and stops them getting too cosy. Remember, if people had taken a relaxed view on this virus, the powers that be might still have went ahead with St. Patricks Festival.

I admit now is not the time for Twitter rows but at least he organised some PPE from China - gear which our frontline healthcare staff could be very grateful for shortly.

ILoveYourVibes · 26-03-2020 02:46AM

Deleted User wrote: »

all.the hallmarks of having had a wonderful mother that told him every day he was the specialest ittle boy

an utterly tone deaf, self regarding useless twat. mouth ten steps ahead of brain and his mouth aint that quick.

Wow that's strong!

lucalux · 26-03-2020 02:46AM

An Ri rua wrote: »

I wonder will Irish hospital staff continue their proud tradition of wearing their uniforms outside of work? And GPs wearing ties? For virus spreading reasons, medical uniforms should always remain at work. Blindingly obvious but going on here for years.

As some doctors have said, in previous threads here, there needs to be shower and changing facilities available to staff at hospitals. It's not done in other countries, and does seem blindingly obvious for a lot of reasons, I agree

New Home · 26-03-2020 02:48AM

lucalux wrote: »

As some doctors have said, in previous threads here, there needs to be shower and changing facilities available to staff at hospitals. It's not done in other countries, and does seem blindingly obvious for a lot of reasons, I agree

For a second I thought you meant that shower facilities for hospital staff aren't available in other countries... :rolleyes: I wouldn't mind, but I'm actually wide awake...

bekker · 26-03-2020 02:49AM

flynnlives wrote: »

We acted.

Other countries dithered.

is there lessons to be learnt. Of course. We messed up expanding the testing to early but weve corrected that.

40k people wanted a test. Its statically impossible based on our numbers for many of those people to be infected. Again i point the finger here at trigger happy GP's.

Please check out facts on asymptomatic and unnoticed spreaders up to 40% is the generally acknowledged figure, up 80% in Iceland study AFAIR.

Testing carried out on triaged self-reporters, % so derived are meaningless in relation to actual infections % present in general. population .

Ikozma · 26-03-2020 02:49AM

I think that German microbiologist could be onto something

lucalux · 26-03-2020 02:50AM

New Home wrote: »

For a second I thought you meant that shower facilities for hospital staff aren't available in other countries... :rolleyes: I wouldn't mind, but I'm actually wide awake...

Understandable...it isn't the clearest, tis me who's half asleep I think!

New Home · 26-03-2020 02:50AM

Ikozma wrote: »

I think that German microbiologist could be on something

More like it.

StupidLikeAFox · 26-03-2020 02:50AM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

It was a lie but its the kind of lie i expect to be told if you know what i mean.

???

If it was indeed a lie, they could have issued this public appeal for PPE 5 days ago be instead of lying about it and waiting for the PPE to run out before issuing the appeal. I believe its called flattening the curve!

STB. · 26-03-2020 02:50AM

flynnlives wrote: »

We acted.

Other countries dithered.

is there lessons to be learnt. Of course. We messed up expanding the testing to early but weve corrected that.

40k people wanted a test. Its statically impossible based on our numbers for many of those people to be infected. Again i point the finger here at trigger happy GP's.

No. The HSE did not have enough testing equipment. The same way they hadn't got enough PPE for frontline staff. People came forward that were displaying symptoms, symptoms published by the HSE. GP's were the gatekeepers.

What percentage of that 40,000 are infected given that 49% of infections are now at community level. We wont know, because it took 11 days to admit there was not enough testing equipment or capacity to deal with as a backlog.

The whole premise of which is to avoid overwhelmed ER's and ICU's.

Kermit.de.frog · 26-03-2020 02:51AM

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/new-orleans-emerges-as-next-coronavirus-epicenter-threatening-rest-of-south/ar-BB11HRXa

New Orleans emerges as next coronavirus epicenter, threatening rest of South

The plight of New Orleans - with the world's highest growth rate in coronavirus cases - also raises fears that the city may become a powerful catalyst in spreading the virus across the south of the country. Authorities have warned the number of cases in New Orleans could overwhelm its hospitals by April 4.

USA over 11,000 cases and counting for yesterday and 164 deaths so far recorded. The country will surpass Italy tomorrow to become the 2nd most infected in the world (although whether that is by incompetence or the virus is hard to distinguish)

murpho999 · 26-03-2020 02:51AM

STB. wrote: »

What I said was "We are a month in to treating a pandemic."

Our first case was diagnosed on 29/2 just after we started testing. Today is the 26/3. We are a month into treating a pandemic.

No we're not, we're a month into treating something that has developed into a pandemic. Big difference.

They are a population of 17million surrounded by land based countries within Europe. They closed their schools, bars and restaurants on 15/3. Whilst their first case was diagnosed only two days before ours, they have adopted an unproven herd immunity "approach". Numbers have escalated. The first cases in Italy may have now been early December, 2019 and deaths recorded as strange pneumonia cases may have been Covid19, which was yet to be known about.

Yes, less than 4 times our population but 40 times our death rate. How do you explain that?

Your border argument is weak when you see what's happening in Germany. I think they'tr in big trouble.

Yes the UK have. There is a strong argument that we should not be importing those cases back in through lax borders.

Maybe but cases have come from everywhere.

Quite the contrary, I am just more educated than you on this subject.

Here's your link you could have googled all the same.

https://nypost.com/2020/03/24/iceland-scientists-found-40-mutations-of-the-coronavirus-report-says/

For me you lose all creditbility in claiming to educate yourself with the New York Post, basically the equivalent of The Sun in the US and the same owners.

No evidence in that article at all.

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CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP