CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP

CIARAN_BOYLE · 25-03-2020 03:36PM

Quin_Dub wrote: »

"Buying them" isn't the problem , taking delivery is.

Don't get me wrong - Him spending his own money is fantastic and he's a guy that I'd have absolutely zero time for generally so fair play to him for the donation , but any suggestion that the Rich/Famous can get any of this stuff faster than Governments just isn't true.

In the UK they are have distribution problems. That is to say they have warehouses of the ppe but they are only now putting in place a system whereby hospitals can order from the warehouses holding the equipment. This meant manufacturers had them and were making more than the government wanted but it wasn't getting to the front line.

In that case ppe got to the front line quicker from medical staff tweeting there was a problem and rich people buying from the manufacturers rather than the hospital ordering from NHS warehouses.

I guess full ppe was always so far outside the normal.

I wonder if we have the same issue?

iwillyeah1234 · 25-03-2020 03:37PM

bennyineire wrote: »

At Federal level yes but each state still has a lot of power, each state basically sets it's own domestic policy for the state. For example a U.S. state would have much more power in the U.S. than say Scotland would have in the U.K.

yes - and the States have a lot of control over their local health system.
there's no "Federal Health Service". it's very much on a State level.

So Cuomo does have a lot of power.

STB. · 25-03-2020 03:38PM

NaiveMelodies wrote: »

Yes, the masks are accounted for.
They'll be waiting longer for another 100,000 if they ask tomorrow. Millions are required.
What type of mask do you know?

I'd love to know what they were doing in the HSE procurement admin side in the run up to this. They have known for quite a while and I have seen the staff call outs on twitter for PPE, with some of their accounts shut down albeit temporarily.

To answer your question. You may know some of these.

O'Neill's in Strabane have reopened their production line, 2 days ago, to manufacture PPE for the NI Trusts. https://twitter.com/ONeills1918

Lower level

https://twitter.com/arcosafety
https://www.boconline.ie/en/products-and-supply/safety-products-ppe/index.html
https://www.classicsolutions.ie/shop/

https://osullivansafety.ie/
https://www.nisbets.ie

Jinglejangle69 · 25-03-2020 03:38PM

briancoolcat wrote: »

Great post regarding the sudden drop off in hospital numbers as soon as this crisis hit. The GPs were sent a directive to stop sending non medical emergencies to our hospitals. For obvious reasons I can't post the source up on an internet forum. When this crisis has passed I truly hope that the HSE, the government, and the GPs get together and deal with the amount of people clogging up the service with minor ailments allowing our A and E departments to deal with real true emergencies and not having to deal with all the time wasting that was going on before. Let's hope something positive comes out of it anyway.

So the years of blaming the government for the trolley crisis was actually all lies??

Interesting.

calgary bound · 25-03-2020 03:38PM

Had to attend Naas A&E last night at my GPs incisteance, was very nervous going in but there were only 2 people in front of me and I was home 3 hours later after getting bloods, ECG etc done. It's amazing how people use A&E unnecessarily. Wouldn't it be great if that changed after this.

iwillyeah1234 · 25-03-2020 03:39PM

am VERY impressed with Cuomo on this presser.

He's really getting into the weeds, and the details. VERY on top of his brief.

Quin_Dub · 25-03-2020 03:39PM

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

In the UK they are have distribution problems. That is to say they have warehouses of the ppe but they are only now putting in place a system whereby hospitals can order from the warehouses holding the equipment.

I guess full ppe was always so far outside the normal.

I wonder if we have the same issue?

Possible - That's where the Army/Civil defence etc. can be hugely helpful.

cnocbui · 25-03-2020 03:40PM

Quin_Dub wrote: »

There's a company in Limerick area that have doubled output in the last week or two - now making over 2.5M masks a week.

Yeah, and most, if not all, will be heading overseas and out of the EU.

Muahahaha · 25-03-2020 03:41PM

Ten of Swords wrote: »

Northern Ireland have put out their numbers earlier than usual today, there are now the same number of deaths there as there was in ROI yesterday (7). They have tested 3,372 people and have 209 confirmed cases.

Ireland has completed 17,992 tests as at midnight on the 23rd

Seems pretty concerning that NI are now level on deaths with the South

moonlighting_1 · 25-03-2020 03:41PM

Young person dies in the uk. Nobody is safe with this virus.

BREAKING: 21-year-old with no underlying health concerns dies from COVID-19

stargazer 68 · 25-03-2020 03:42PM

calgary bound wrote: »

Had to attend Naas A&E last night at my GPs incisteance, was very nervous going in but there were only 2 people in front of me and I was home 3 hours later after getting bloods, ECG etc done. It's amazing how people use A&E unnecessarily. Wouldn't it be great if that changed after this.

May have been posted already

http://137.191.241.85/ed/ED.php?EDDATE=25%2F3%2F2020

NaiveMelodies · 25-03-2020 03:42PM

STB. wrote: »

I'd love to know what they were doing in the HSE procurement admin side in the run up to this. They have known for quite a while and I have seen the staff call outs on twitter for PPE, with some of their accounts shut down albeit temporarily.

To answer your question. You may know some of these.

O'Neill's in Strabane have reopened their production line, 2 days ago, to manufacture PPE for the NI Trusts. https://twitter.com/ONeills1918

Lower level

https://twitter.com/arcosafety
https://www.boconline.ie/en/products-and-supply/safety-products-ppe/index.html
https://www.classicsolutions.ie/shop/

https://osullivansafety.ie/
https://www.nisbets.ie

Sorry was a bit of a rhetorical. In regular contact with China. China are the source.

O'Neills pulled off a major PR coup and fairplay to them. The impact will be minimal. They have other production lines they could have used which would have made a real impact.

bekker · 25-03-2020 03:43PM

wakka12 wrote: »

Yeh thats true, would be interesting to see a growth chart of Dublin beside the rest of the country. Dublin is probably much closer to the 30% growth rate than the rest of Ireland

Give my eye-teeth (if they were still there

) for even half the granularity of data available on Singaporean dashboard.

But then there'd be little to post about, except of course the sanctity of privacy, GDPR etc.

Quin_Dub · 25-03-2020 03:43PM

iwillyeah1234 wrote: »

yes - and the States have a lot of control over their local health system.
there's no "Federal Health Service". it's very much on a State level.

So Cuomo does have a lot of power.

He does , but the Federal Government have all the money - So if they roll back the "emergency" status at Federal level that cuts off access to huge funds and resources..

He could for example maintain a state level lock-down , but without Federal support the states run out of cash really fast.

SharpshooterTom · 25-03-2020 03:43PM

iwillyeah1234 wrote: »

am VERY impressed with Cuomo on this presser.

He's really getting into the weeds, and the details. VERY on top of his brief.

Rumours some democrats want him to replace Biden as the democratic nominee. Biden's continues to make gaffe's and doesn't look as assuring or as commanding as Cuomo does.

jrosen · 25-03-2020 03:43PM

Ive thankfully never needed A&E myself but due to a condition my child has we have spent many a night in childrens A&E. Im always amazed at the kids who need A&E yet gobble madconalds etc and spend their time running around waiting to be seen.

I think we have more than our fair share of time wasters in Ireland.

KaneToad · 25-03-2020 03:45PM

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

I retract my previous post, top class stuff out of McGregor here, fair play.

"McGregor" and "top class" are not three words that go together.

KiKi III · 25-03-2020 03:45PM

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

Rumours some democrats want him to replace Biden as the democratic nominee. Biden's continues to make gaffe's and doesn't look as assuring or as commanding as Cuomo does.

Could be VP?

harr · 25-03-2020 03:45PM

Just had text form a friend who has just tested positive.. no major symptoms bit of a cough which wasn’t clearing as he has a child with a poor immune system GP sent him to be tested.
Under new protocol he wouldn’t have been tested and he was sure it was only a cold.
Still doesn’t feel majorly unwell.
His GP was on the ball and he was in self isolation from early on .. but he could have very well dismissed it as a cold and carried on with life.
Goes to show how important social distancing is , everyone should presume that everyone they meet has it ..

is_that_so · 25-03-2020 03:46PM

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

Rumours some democrats want him to replace Biden as the democratic nominee. Biden's continues to make gaffe's and doesn't look as assuring or as commanding as Cuomo does.

He's plain-spoken and has a very abrasive personality, which is perfect for this. Himself and de Blasio have git it into it during this.

10000maniacs · 25-03-2020 03:46PM

How stupid can you get?
The head of Public Health for the HSE is now in self isolation after visiting his family in England last week.
Has he ever heard of Skype?
EDIT: Head of Public Health HSE.
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/hses-head-of-public-health-in-the-south-in-self-isolation-after-visiting-family-in-england-990059.html

Cork Boy 53 · 25-03-2020 03:47PM

cnocbui wrote: »

Yeah, and most, if not all, will be heading overseas and out of the EU.

Surely the Govt. could step in and requisition them for Irish domestic use.

thebaz · 25-03-2020 03:48PM

Havnt posted in here for 2 weeks - just wondering, anyone any idea why German statistics are so much better than Spain and Italy ?

Are they doing more random testing , and Spain and Italy only testing people very sick with virus -

Currently Spain have nearly 2,500 in a serious condition , and Italy nearly 3,500 while Germany has only 23 in serious condition.
Germany has a total of 36,000 cases ,
Spain has nearly 48,000
and Italy nearly 70,000

is_that_so · 25-03-2020 03:48PM

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Surely the Govt. could step in and requisition them for Irish domestic use.

The HSE have a huge order from China on the way.

https://www.thejournal.ie/hse-coronavirus-tests-5054225-Mar2020/

josip · 25-03-2020 03:50PM

10000maniacs wrote: »

How stupid can you get?
The head of the HSE is now in self isolation after visiting his family in England last week.
Has he ever heard of Skype?
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/hses-head-of-public-health-in-the-south-in-self-isolation-after-visiting-family-in-england-990059.html

As stupid as not being able to read the article properly?

...head of public health in the south...

STB. · 25-03-2020 03:51PM

iwillyeah1234 wrote: »

NYC : 30,000 ventilators needed.

They have 4,000. Ordered 7,000. "still shopping"

( Cuomo presser)

We are lucky there. They are made in Galway. Medtronic do 50% of the world supply
.
https://www.siliconrepublic.com/companies/medtronic-double-production-ventilators-galway-ireland

Both France and Germany banned the export of all medical equipment.

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! · 25-03-2020 03:51PM

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

Only England though, not up here in NI.

Sounds like you guys might need them too.. how is your death total matching the south, with far less confirmed cases?

Is that under testing? Or something else?

owlbethere · 25-03-2020 03:52PM

10000maniacs wrote: »

How stupid can you get?
The head of the HSE is now in self isolation after visiting his family in England last week.
Has he ever heard of Skype?
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/hses-head-of-public-health-in-the-south-in-self-isolation-after-visiting-family-in-england-990059.html

My god, surely it's a known now at this stage that travel is a huge risk and contender for getting infected with CV.

10000maniacs · 25-03-2020 03:53PM

josip wrote: »

As stupid as not being able to read the article properly?

If he is the head of public health for the HSE, why would he take a plane over to the UK in the midst of this crisis? Still Idiotic.

Gynoid · 25-03-2020 03:53PM

10000maniacs wrote: »

How stupid can you get?
The head of the HSE is now in self isolation after visiting his family in England last week.
Has he ever heard of Skype?
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/hses-head-of-public-health-in-the-south-in-self-isolation-after-visiting-family-in-england-990059.html

That is just classic.

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CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP