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CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) *Read OP*

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  • #7232
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,504 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Drumpot wrote: »
    No, I think you shouldn’t demand things without understanding the consequences. Who are we relying on for important goods or supplies that may be effected by us commandeering these supplies?

    Build up our own reserves.

    We have one company in Limerick churning out 2 millions masks a week who are exporting to Europe and the USA.

    While we are struggling to get them in from China.

    It's not a mental concept, they can still do it but they supply the Irish market first.


  • #7233
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    Mysteriouschic wrote: »
    There’s reports of a second wave in china, Taiwan and Singapore
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/singapore-taiwan-and-hong-kong-face-second-wave-of-coronavirus-cases-11584445836

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-second-wave-surge-hong-kong-china-uk-cases-a9420876.html

    How is this happening? I would think these countries would have forced quarantine on arrivals. I don't know how they are importing cases.


  • #7234
    Eliezer Hallowed Whirlpool
    Posts: 0 ✭ Eliezer Hallowed Whirlpool


    Boggles wrote: »
    Build up our own reserves.

    We have one company in Limerick churning out 2 millions masks a week who are exporting to Europe and the USA.

    While we are struggling to get them in from China.

    It's not a mental concept, they can still do it but they supply the Irish market first.

    Are they an Irish company? Because if not, they won't be in Limerick for very long if we do as you suggest.


  • #7235
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Is fruit of the loom still operating in Donegal?


  • #7236
    yourdeadwright
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,950 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Roger_007 wrote: »
    The more I listen to various spokespeople trying to explain what the new regime means for all of us, the more I come to the conclusion that the whole thing has not been thought through at all. We are committing economic suicide which will result in the eventual breakdown of our social fabric.
    There really is no plan in place.

    For a change the government's main objective is to save life's first and foremost
    Everything else can wait and be dealt with after that ,


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  • #7237
    Eliezer Hallowed Whirlpool
    Posts: 0 ✭ Eliezer Hallowed Whirlpool


    Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »
    Is fruit of the loom still operating in Donegal?

    Closed years ago.


  • #7238
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Drumpot wrote: »
    You don’t see the difference between a private hospital or private beds for Irish people versus a private company with orders from abroad? Seriously?

    If it's making non-essential products it should be shut down at the moment.


  • #7239
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,504 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Renee Kind Historian wrote: »
    Are they an Irish company?

    Yes
    Renee Kind Historian wrote: »
    Because if not, they won't be in Limerick for very long if we do as you suggest.

    Why?

    How will they be adversely effected financially? :confused:


  • #7240
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    El Weirdo wrote: »
    Ah here. That's clearly a stock photo.

    Get the **** out of here.

    It's from an official account. You get da **** out!


  • #7241
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    The new testing algorithm is on this page.

    https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/algorithms/


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  • #7242
    Doctors room ghost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,839 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    Naggdefy wrote: »
    That's not the point i'm making. We're doing non essential work when we shouldn't be travelling for one. And two we could be redeployed to something more productive at this time.

    You're only taking the angle you did to have a cut at me. Your earlier big list of whinges was judgemental BS. Know it all. You think you're better than everyone. The 'gombeens' as you call them.






    You’re the one that’s whinging. If you don’t want to work say it to your supervisor instead of bitching and moaning that you are in work but in your opinion shouldn’t be.
    As for the rest of the post i don’t think I’m better than anyone else.all I do know is I wasn’t one of the sheep queuing for a toilet roll or a Big Mac.


  • #7243
    BluePlanet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,444 ✭✭✭BluePlanet


    I don't understand why the HSE would be short of PPE.
    There has only been a run on that stuff very recently.

    Shouldn't we have had an adequate stock in advance of a pandemic?
    Do we have pandemic modeling/forecasting?

    Just 1,329 cases and the HSE are out of stock?

    Imagine what it will look like when there are 13290 cases.


  • #7244
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    They just can't physically cope with the numbers who are looking for testing. Changing the protocol is the only way. Positive cases are inevitably going to slip through. Can't be helped.
    The hse can only do so much
    It's up to individuals to keep away from others and self isolate if they feel unwell.


  • #7245
    pjohnson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,081 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    BluePlanet wrote: »
    I don't understand why the HSE would be short of PPE.
    There has only been a run on that stuff very recently.

    Shouldn't we have had an adequate stock in advance of a pandemic?
    Do we have pandemic modeling/forecasting?

    Just 1,329 cases and the HSE are out of stock?

    Our health service just isnt that good to start with and this is making it worse. It couldn't even manage the tests which were the key part of the "South Korea model" we were meant to be following. But our health service couldn't manage that let alone a "surge" in actual cases.


  • #7246
    El Weirdo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    :D Attack the post not the poster. What are rules on bold font sorry if I've upset you.

    Luckily we have an open internet. CCP did a good job suppressing information. It seems that slick press conferences , men in suits , and vague stats seem to give you comfort to not question anything.

    Do you think we have enough PPE for front line staff?

    There's also a rule about backseat modding. If you have a problem with any of my posts, report them.

    I don't know if we have enough PPE, but I do know that efforts to ensure that we do have enough equipment for this crisis have been on-going for weeks and months. Way before you even started posting in these threads.


  • #7247
    This is it
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,119 ✭✭✭This is it


    BluePlanet wrote: »
    I don't understand why the HSE would be short of PPE.
    There has only been a run on that stuff very recently.

    Shouldn't we have had an adequate stock in advance of a pandemic?
    Do we have pandemic modeling/forecasting?

    Just 1,329 cases and the HSE are out of stock?

    I'm struggling to understand your logic. The amount of cases have no relevance to the amount of ppe used. Someone testing might never see a positive case, they still need ppe.


  • #7248
    Hurrache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,381 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    BluePlanet wrote: »
    Just 1,329 cases and the HSE are out of stock?

    Imagine what it will look like when there are 13290 cases.

    They don't just use them after a case is confirmed.


  • #7249
    frillyleaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭frillyleaf


    givyjoe wrote: »
    It's going to make a huge difference to the folks trying to isolate from others, in a very confined space. Having people isolate for weeks on end, in cramped spaces is seriously detrimental to mental health and shouldn't be done if it isn't absolute necessary. Think of one parent stuck in a room for weeks trying to avoid passing to others, when they may not even have it, but can't get tested.

    Yeah this is a big problem. It people don’t get confirmation they actually have it they will become too frustrated to isolate themselves properly. Some will do as they are meant to but others might nip out for a walk or drive when it’s quiet when they are not meant to leave the house at all.

    At this stage some people may not even bother ringing to get the test as they’ll be told to stay inside for two weeks but not get confirmation. It is challenging for some people to do this particularly if they’ve no support to help out with things they need. So testing is important from this point of view


  • #7250
    TheAsYLuMkeY
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭TheAsYLuMkeY


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Maybe so. Why are so many of our confirmed cases Health care workers?

    Statistically, they are more likely.

    If I only have to consider my movements and my actions day to day in an environment where I could be, I am at a low risk of making a mistake once or twice with touching my face and or touching something without gloves etc etc.

    I can make a few mistakes and be ok.

    A health care worker can be super careful and heed correct procedure 99% of the time, then that one time they take their eye off the ball they can be infected.


  • #7251
    Pinch Flat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,780 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    Doctors room ghost wrote: »
    When all this settles down it’s very important that we as a nation remember the huge amount of self entitled gombeens who live among us in society.
    I’m talking about the ones who ran out in week one and stripped the Aldi shelves bare.
    The same shelves are full again in spite of yere greedy efforts ye swine.huge thanks to the Aldi staff who had to witness and entertain that fcukin nonsense.
    I’m talking about the ones who queued up for a McDonald’s just to be seen doing it and having the guards go out and send ye home.precious emergency service time wasted on moving sheep out of a drive through.fcuking embarrassing.
    And finally a special mention for all the idiotic fools and their “sources” who sent all the messages about the “11am LOCKDOWN”.
    May ye all be remembered as the self entitled,idiotic gombeens that ye are and always will be.

    Let's not forget the wet brains who flocked to the beach and mountains, queing for coffee and ice cream like a normal bank holiday.

    I knew we had a fair proportion of stupid people among us, but the last few weeks have really been an eye opener.


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  • #7252
    El Weirdo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    It's from an official account. You get da **** out!

    An official account that mentions nothing about PPE. What is your point?


  • #7253
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Maybe so. Why are so many of our confirmed cases Health care workers?

    About 10% of cases in every country seem to be health workers. Well they are around coronavirus patients all day but I would have thought their PPE would have prevented the infections


  • #7254
    Chaos Black
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 121 ✭✭Chaos Black


    So a very important question in all of this mess.

    For men - how are we going to trim our heads without barbers for the next few months?!


  • #7255
    Eliezer Hallowed Whirlpool
    Posts: 0 ✭ Eliezer Hallowed Whirlpool


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    It's from an official account. You get da **** out!

    You cannot possibly believe that photo is of 2 doctors standing around treating a coronavirus patient. I don't see how anyone could. Absolutely bizarre.


  • #7256
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    More good news? The Netherlands has "most probably" ended the exponential growth of coronavirus infections, the Dutch Institute of Health has said.


  • #7257
    BluePlanet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,444 ✭✭✭BluePlanet


    This is it wrote: »
    I'm struggling to understand your logic. The amount of cases have no relevance to the amount of ppe used. Someone testing might never see a positive case, they still need ppe.
    If the amount of cases has no relevance to the amount of PPE consumed, then why are they out of stock?


  • #7258
    Doctors room ghost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,839 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    Pinch Flat wrote: »
    Let's not forget the wet brains who flocked to the beach and mountains, queing for coffee and ice cream like a normal bank holiday.

    I knew we had a fair proportion of stupid people among us, but the last few weeks have really been an eye opener.




    I’d say they are the same clowns that bought bread during the snow just to put a picture of it on the Facebook.


  • #7259
    gabeeg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    frillyleaf wrote: »
    Yeah this is a big problem. It people don’t get confirmation they actually have it they will become too frustrated to isolate themselves properly. Some will do as they are meant to but others might nip out for a walk or drive when it’s quiet when they are not meant to leave the house at all

    And it will be very frustrating to not know if you have immunity or not.

    Could you now go and safely help with the care of an elderly relative for instance? You won't know, so you can't.

    And on a wider scale, we won't have any idea when or if the population achieves herd immunity.
    That makes emerging from a lockdown a much bigger gamble than it could be.


  • #7260
    TheAsYLuMkeY
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭TheAsYLuMkeY


    Chaos Black wrote: »
    So a very important question in all of this mess.

    For men - how are we going to trim our heads without barbers for the next few months?!

    Next rush will be on Wahl and Babylis hair clippers


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  • #7261
    Pinch Flat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,780 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    Chaos Black wrote: »
    So a very important question in all of this mess.

    For men - how are we going to trim our heads without barbers for the next few months?!

    I'm going to buy an electric hair clippers. Used to get a number 3 buzz cut but will maybe start with some high settings.


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